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------=_Part_17107869_398743795.1492508811941 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,=20 A new vm setting "maximum memory" has appeared in oVirt >4 which by default= has the value "current memory"*4=20 - Why is "maximum memory" setting necessary to set?=20 - Why isn't this value set to "infinity" by default ?=20 It seems to me kind of uselessly counter productif to have to decide a maxi= mum memory amount beforehand. if we do this, will we have to set maximum CP= U cores also in the future (being devil's advocate here ;) )=20 I did searched oVirt documentation, but very little information is availabl= e.=20 Maybe this is an libvirt question, but I'm hopping a oVirt guru could quick= ly enlighten me.=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 ------=_Part_17107869_398743795.1492508811941 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_17107870_1472858614.1492508811941" ------=_Part_17107870_1472858614.1492508811941 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hello,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"= 1"></div><div>A new vm setting "maximum memory" has appeared in oVirt >4= which by default has the value "current memory"*4<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1">= </div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>- Why is "maximum memory" se= tting necessary to set? </div><div>- Why isn't this value set to "infinity"= by default ?</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>It seems to me = kind of uselessly counter productif to have to decide a maximum memory amou= nt beforehand. if we do this, will we have to set maximum CPU cores also in= the future (being devil's advocate here ;) )<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div= dth: 100%; display: block; clear: both;" data-mce-href=3D"https://www.lyra-= network.com/" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; text-decoration: none; width:= 100%; display: block; clear: both;"><img src=3D"cid:b5204ab380be6ea6d0270a= e7bfb4f103942609aa@zimbra" alt=3D"" data-mce-src=3D"/home/admin@lyra-networ= k.com/corporate-documents/element-signature_logo_lyra_115x94.jpg" doc=3D"co= rporate-documents/element-signature_logo_lyra_115x94.jpg" width=3D"115" hei= ght=3D"94" border=3D"0"></a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></td><td style=3D"marg= in: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; line= -height: 16px; width: 258.75pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11= px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width= : 258.75pt;" width=3D"345" valign=3D"top"><table style=3D"margin: 0; width:= 258.75pt; table-layout: fixed; border: none;" 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On 18 Apr 2017, at 11:46, Nelson Lameiras = <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> wrote: =20 Hello, =20 A new vm setting "maximum memory" has appeared in oVirt >4 which by = default has the value "current memory=E2=80=9D*4
In 4.1
=20 - Why is "maximum memory" setting necessary to set?
- Why isn't this value set to "infinity" by default ?
Because it=E2=80=99s recommended to be about 4x the startup size by = linux kernel
=20 It seems to me kind of uselessly counter productif to have to decide a = maximum memory amount beforehand. if we do this, will we have to set = maximum CPU cores also in the future (being devil's advocate here ;) )
You don=E2=80=99t have to decide, you can keep the default 4x. For CPUs it is not currently needed and is set according to = engine-config maximum supported by qemu-kvm - 288 in 4.1 Thanks, michal .
=20 I did searched oVirt documentation, but very little information is = available. Maybe this is an libvirt question, but I'm hopping a oVirt guru could = quickly enlighten me. =20 cordialement, regards, =20 <element-signature_logo_lyra_115x94.jpg> <https://www.lyra-network.com/> Nelson LAMEIRAS Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks = engineer Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com = <mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> www.lyra-network.com <https://www.lyra-network.com/> | www.payzen.eu = <https://payzen.eu/> <element-signature_logo_YouTube_32x28.jpg> = <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrVl1CO_Jlu3KbiRH-tQ_vA> <element-signature_logo_LinkedIn_41x28.jpg> = <https://www.linkedin.com/company/lyra-network_2> <element-signature_logo_Twitter_42x28.jpg> = <https://twitter.com/LyraNetwork> <element-signature_payzen_61x28.jpg> <https://payzen.eu/> Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE =20 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
--Apple-Mail=_D8E6B794-A46C-4E04-B137-7522A89923D6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On 18 Apr 2017, at 11:46, Nelson Lameiras <<a = href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" = class=3D"">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" = class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hello,<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br = data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">A new vm setting = "maximum memory" has appeared in oVirt >4 which by default has the = value "current memory=E2=80=9D*4<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div>In 4.1</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"= class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: = arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- = Why is "maximum memory" setting necessary to = set?</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><blockquote = type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" = class=3D""><div class=3D"">- Why isn't this value set to "infinity" by = default ?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>Because it=E2=80=99s recommended to be about 4x = the startup size by linux kernel</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div= class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; = font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It seems to me kind of uselessly = counter productif to have to decide a maximum memory amount beforehand. = if we do this, will we have to set maximum CPU cores also in the future = (being devil's advocate here ;) )<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div>You don=E2=80=99t have to decide, you can keep the = default 4x.</div><div>For CPUs it is not currently needed and is set = according to engine-config maximum supported by qemu-kvm - 288 in = 4.1</div><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>michal</div><div>.<br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; = font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">I did searched oVirt = documentation, but very little information is available.</div><div = class=3D"">Maybe this is an libvirt question, but I'm hopping a oVirt = guru could quickly enlighten me.<br class=3D""></div></div><div = class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div = data-marker=3D"__SIG_PRE__" class=3D""><div class=3D"">cordialement, = regards,</div><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><table style=3D"margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; = border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: = 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" = width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" = class=3D""><tbody class=3D""><tr class=3D""><td style=3D"margin: 0; = font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; = line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" = data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0; 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<div>If others have same questions, I did found this information below on = oVirt web site (http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/en= gine/maximum-memory-size/)</div><div><h2 id=3D"note-on-size-of-maximum-memo= ry" style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-family: 'Venturis Sans', 'Venturi= s Sans Adf', VenturisSans, 'VenturisSans ADF', sans-serif; font-weight: 500= ; line-height: 1.1; color: #333333; margin-top: 17pt; margin-bottom: 8.5pt;= font-size: 25pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-= variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start= ; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; w= ord-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff= ; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce= -style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-family: 'Venturis Sans', 'Venturis S= ans Adf', VenturisSans, 'VenturisSans ADF', sans-serif; font-weight: 500; l= ine-height: 1.1; color: #333333; margin-top: 17pt; margin-bottom: 8.5pt; fo= nt-size: 25pt; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-var= iant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; t= ext-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word= -spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; t= ext-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Note on siz= e of maximum memory</h2><p style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; co= lor: #333333; font-family: 'Source Sans Pro','Open Sans','Helvetica Neue',H= elvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-varian= t-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter= -spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none= ; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; b= ackground-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-c=
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Subject: </b>Re: [ovirt-users] vm "maximum memory" setting questions<br></=
<blockquote class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 18 Apr 2017, at 11:46, Nelson La= meiras <<a href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" class=3D"" t= arget=3D"_blank">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a>> wrote:</div><br c= lass=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div sty= le=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D= ""><div class=3D"">Hello,<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"= "></div><div class=3D"">A new vm setting "maximum memory" has appeared in o= Virt >4 which by default has the value "current memory=E2=80=9D*4<br cla= ss=3D""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div>In 4= .1</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote class=3D""><div class=3D""><div cla= ss=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:= 12pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- W= hy is "maximum memory" setting necessary to set?</div></div></div></div></b= lockquote></div><div><blockquote class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""= <div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"= class=3D""><div class=3D"">- Why isn't this value set to "infinity" by def= ault ?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>B= ecause it=E2=80=99s recommended to be about 4x the startup size by linux ke= rnel</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, san= s-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>= <div class=3D"">It seems to me kind of uselessly counter productif to have = to decide a maximum memory amount beforehand. if we do this, will we have t= o set maximum CPU cores also in the future (being devil's advocate here ;) = )<br class=3D""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></=
------=_Part_17149794_849683538.1492510312212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello michal,=20 Thanks for your answers.=20 If others have same questions, I did found this information below on oVirt = web site (http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/engine/m= aximum-memory-size/)=20 Note on size of maximum memory=20 If memory hot-plug is not required, max memory can be set to be the same as= VM memory. Suggested value is 4x size of VM memory. Larger max memory is d= iscouraged because:=20 * I can make QEMU process to start for longer time.=20 * If hot plugged memory is also required to be hot unpluggable, it need= s to be considered as movable by the guest kernel. Kernel requires the amou= nt of movable memory to be at most 4x larger that non-movable memory for st= able run.=20 * On PowerPC platform continuous block of non-movable memory of size 1/= 64 of the max memory needs to be allocated for each VM.=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com>=20 To: "Nelson Lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com>=20 Cc: "ovirt users" <users@ovirt.org>=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:55:46 AM=20 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] vm "maximum memory" setting questions=20 On 18 Apr 2017, at 11:46, Nelson Lameiras < nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.co= m > wrote:=20 Hello,=20 A new vm setting "maximum memory" has appeared in oVirt >4 which by default= has the value "current memory=E2=80=9D*4=20 In 4.1=20 BQ_BEGIN - Why is "maximum memory" setting necessary to set?=20 BQ_END BQ_BEGIN - Why isn't this value set to "infinity" by default ?=20 BQ_END Because it=E2=80=99s recommended to be about 4x the startup size by linux k= ernel=20 BQ_BEGIN It seems to me kind of uselessly counter productif to have to decide a maxi= mum memory amount beforehand. if we do this, will we have to set maximum CP= U cores also in the future (being devil's advocate here ;) )=20 BQ_END You don=E2=80=99t have to decide, you can keep the default 4x.=20 For CPUs it is not currently needed and is set according to engine-config m= aximum supported by qemu-kvm - 288 in 4.1=20 Thanks,=20 michal=20 .=20 BQ_BEGIN I did searched oVirt documentation, but very little information is availabl= e.=20 Maybe this is an libvirt question, but I'm hopping a oVirt guru could quick= ly enlighten me.=20 cordialement, regards,=20 <element-signature_logo_lyra_115x94.jpg>=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 <element-signature_logo_YouTube_32x28.jpg>=20 =09<element-signature_logo_LinkedIn_41x28.jpg>=20 =09<element-signature_logo_Twitter_42x28.jpg>=20 =09<element-signature_payzen_61x28.jpg>=20 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 _______________________________________________=20 Users mailing list=20 Users@ovirt.org=20 http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users=20 BQ_END ------=_Part_17149794_849683538.1492510312212 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_17149795_1547266202.1492510312213" ------=_Part_17149795_1547266202.1492510312213 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hello michal,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bo= gus=3D"1"></div><div>Thanks for your answers.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div= olor: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; colo= r: #333333; font-family: 'Source Sans Pro','Open Sans','Helvetica Neue',Hel= vetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-= ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-s= pacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; bac= kground-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-col= or: initial;">If memory hot-plug is not required, max memory can be set to = be the same as VM memory. Suggested value is 4x size of VM memory. Larger m= ax memory is discouraged because:</p><ul style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; m= argin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 8.5pt; color: #333333; font-family: 'Source = Sans Pro', 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; fon= t-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-vari= ant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: nor= mal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; backgrou= nd-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: i= nitial;" data-mce-style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 0px; margin-= bottom: 8.5pt; color: #333333; font-family: 'Source Sans Pro', 'Open Sans',= 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-styl= e: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-= weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text= -indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-sp= acing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text= -decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><li style=3D"b= ox-sizing: border-box;" data-mce-style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">I can ma= ke QEMU process to start for longer time.</li><li style=3D"box-sizing: bord= er-box;" data-mce-style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">If hot plugged memory i= s also required to be hot unpluggable, it needs to be considered as <em sty= le=3D"box-sizing: border-box;" data-mce-style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;">m= ovable</em> by the guest kernel. Kernel requires the amount of movable memo= ry to be at most 4x larger that non-movable memory for stable run.</li><li = style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;" data-mce-style=3D"box-sizing: border-box;= ">On PowerPC platform continuous block of non-movable memory of size 1/64 o= f the max memory needs to be allocated for each VM.</li></ul></div><div><br= th=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td = style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: = #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" data-mce-sty= le=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b= 3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" width=3D"115" v= align=3D"top"><a href=3D"https://www.lyra-network.com/" style=3D"border: no= ne; text-decoration: none; width: 100%; display: block; clear: both;" data-= mce-href=3D"https://www.lyra-network.com/" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; = text-decoration: none; width: 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dy></table><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker= =3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Michal Skri= vanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com><br><b>To: </b>"Nelson Lameiras" = <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"ovirt users" <us= ers@ovirt.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:55:46 AM<br><b= div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><br class=3D""><div= div>You don=E2=80=99t have to decide, you can keep the default 4x.</div><di= v>For CPUs it is not currently needed and is set according to engine-config= maximum supported by qemu-kvm - 288 in 4.1</div><div><br class=3D""></div>= <div>Thanks,</div><div>michal</div><div>.<br class=3D""><blockquote class= =3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, hel= vetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class= =3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">I did searched oVirt documentat= ion, but very little 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