
Hi all My workplace is considering replacing Arcserve (which has been terrible) with Commvault. Our virtualisation is a mix of about 95% RHV and 5% HyperV. We have a handful of physical servers, a 50/50 mix of Windows and RHEL. We run dual hot data centers, and want to backup locally (disk to disk) then replicate to the other data center. Cloud is off the table. Anyone have any experience with Commvault? War stories? Happy to be pointed at other alternatives. Thanks

I'd be looking at storware, they are very rhv specific On Tue., Mar. 9, 2021, 19:16 Colin Coe, <colin.coe@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all
My workplace is considering replacing Arcserve (which has been terrible) with Commvault.
Our virtualisation is a mix of about 95% RHV and 5% HyperV. We have a handful of physical servers, a 50/50 mix of Windows and RHEL.
We run dual hot data centers, and want to backup locally (disk to disk) then replicate to the other data center. Cloud is off the table.
Anyone have any experience with Commvault? War stories?
Happy to be pointed at other alternatives.
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I agree with Dan, however EMC NetWorker can also backup RHEV. I'm not that familiar with Storware, but I know that NetWorker can do pretty much anything you'd like. That includes handling multiple levels of backup, storage tiering, multiple clones on different media, archiving and so on... I'm a EMC NetWorker Implementation Engineer myself, and IMO only two other backup systems are real competitors to NW: NetBackup and IBM Tivoli(called Spectrum Protect nowadays). All three mentioned are very expensive, but then again they are designed for huge enterprise deployments. They do scale all the way though, so they would all be usable in your installation(which is small in my perspective, since I was running NetWorker backup of 3500 servers to 21 NW servers back in 2010). And smaller installations like yours won't cost very much. Oh, stay away from Breakup Exec.. It sucks. And ScumVault? I'd never use it. I've heard too many horror stories about restores being impossible because the server was dependent on AD, which was down and had to be recovered, horrendous backup server database issues etc. etc. That being said, there's also Bareos which I use for backing up one of our Hadoop clusters. It's open source and very stable. /tony On 10/03/2021 01:26, Dan Yasny wrote:
I'd be looking at storware, they are very rhv specific
On Tue., Mar. 9, 2021, 19:16 Colin Coe, <colin.coe@gmail.com <mailto:colin.coe@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all
My workplace is considering replacing Arcserve (which has been terrible) with Commvault.
Our virtualisation is a mix of about 95% RHV and 5% HyperV. We have a handful of physical servers, a 50/50 mix of Windows and RHEL.
We run dual hot data centers, and want to backup locally (disk to disk) then replicate to the other data center. Cloud is off the table.
Anyone have any experience with Commvault? War stories?
Happy to be pointed at other alternatives.
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 7:57 AM Tony Brian Albers <tba@kb.dk> wrote:
I agree with Dan, however EMC NetWorker can also backup RHEV.
Can you give a pointer about Networker capabilities? I know Netbackup included RHV support since its 8.2 version. Eg for 8.3 you have this "NetBackup™ Web UI RHV Administrator's Guide" and other documents: https://www.veritas.com/content/support/en_US/doc/138617403-138789763-0/v141... Do you have a similar pointer for Netbackup? Thanks, Gianluca

Thanks all for the input so far. Does EMC Networker do agentless RHV backups, or do I install the software on all nodes? On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 16:41, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 7:57 AM Tony Brian Albers <tba@kb.dk> wrote:
I agree with Dan, however EMC NetWorker can also backup RHEV.
Can you give a pointer about Networker capabilities? I know Netbackup included RHV support since its 8.2 version. Eg for 8.3 you have this "NetBackup™ Web UI RHV Administrator's Guide" and other documents:
https://www.veritas.com/content/support/en_US/doc/138617403-138789763-0/v141...
Do you have a similar pointer for Netbackup?
Thanks, Gianluca
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Hmm.. It seems that NW does not support RHV, I was quite sure though -but I must have remembered it wrong. I think what we used to do is use an oVirt python backup thing that snapshotted the VM's and then we could fetch the snaps via the NetWorker client on the fileserver that stores the snapshots. Using a NetWorker client on all the vm's is also possible of course, and quite easy to maintain. IMO the best option is probably storware, reach out to Pawel Maczka -he's very helpful. /tony On 10/03/2021 11:16, Colin Coe wrote:
Thanks all for the input so far.
Does EMC Networker do agentless RHV backups, or do I install the software on all nodes?
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 16:41, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com <mailto:gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 7:57 AM Tony Brian Albers <tba@kb.dk <mailto:tba@kb.dk>> wrote:
I agree with Dan, however EMC NetWorker can also backup RHEV.
Can you give a pointer about Networker capabilities? I know Netbackup included RHV support since its 8.2 version. Eg for 8.3 you have this "NetBackup™ Web UI RHV Administrator's Guide" and other documents: https://www.veritas.com/content/support/en_US/doc/138617403-138789763-0/v141...
Do you have a similar pointer for Netbackup?
Thanks, Gianluca
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Oh, I just checked, and Bareos 20 now does agentless oVirt/RHV backups too. You should probably have a close look at it. It's quite simple to manage and very, very stable. /tony On 10/03/2021 11:47, Tony Brian Albers wrote:
Hmm.. It seems that NW does not support RHV, I was quite sure though -but I must have remembered it wrong. I think what we used to do is use an oVirt python backup thing that snapshotted the VM's and then we could fetch the snaps via the NetWorker client on the fileserver that stores the snapshots.
Using a NetWorker client on all the vm's is also possible of course, and quite easy to maintain.
IMO the best option is probably storware, reach out to Pawel Maczka -he's very helpful.
/tony
On 10/03/2021 11:16, Colin Coe wrote:
Thanks all for the input so far.
Does EMC Networker do agentless RHV backups, or do I install the software on all nodes?
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 16:41, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com <mailto:gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 7:57 AM Tony Brian Albers <tba@kb.dk <mailto:tba@kb.dk>> wrote:
I agree with Dan, however EMC NetWorker can also backup RHEV.
Can you give a pointer about Networker capabilities? I know Netbackup included RHV support since its 8.2 version. Eg for 8.3 you have this "NetBackup™ Web UI RHV Administrator's Guide" and other documents: https://www.veritas.com/content/support/en_US/doc/138617403-138789763-0/v141...
Do you have a similar pointer for Netbackup?
Thanks, Gianluca
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Colin Coe
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Dan Yasny
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Gianluca Cecchi
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Tony Brian Albers