Ovirt Cpu pinning and Oracle database license with hardware partitioning.
Ovirt supports CPU pinning. So can I use this virtualizer to do partitioning hardware to save Oracle database licenses? Has any of you already done it?
Hi Nicola, CPU pinning granted by oVirt is not a supported method to apply hardware-partitioning for Oracle products on top of VMs. The only supported method/solution is available on Oracle VM Server. You can see further details at: http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/partitioning-070609.pdf Simon On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Nicola Battista < nicola.battista89@gmail.com> wrote:
Ovirt supports CPU pinning. So can I use this virtualizer to do partitioning hardware to save Oracle database licenses? Has any of you already done it?
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On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Simon Coter <simon.coter@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nicola,
CPU pinning granted by oVirt is not a supported method to apply hardware-partitioning for Oracle products on top of VMs. The only supported method/solution is available on Oracle VM Server. You can see further details at:
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/partitioning-070609.pdf
Simon
Correct. But very arguable from a technological point of view (in my opinion of course). I don't see differences in what you have to do in Oracle VM to get cpu pinning and "accepted" hard-partitioning ( http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/vm/ovm-hardpart-168217.pdf referred in the linked pdf above), from what you can do in vSphere, oVirt or RHV to get the same result: eg oVirt: https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/sla/cpu-pinning/ RHV: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_virtualization/4.1/htm... vSphere 5.1 https://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-51/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.vsphere.vm_... vSphere 6.0 https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-vSphere/6.0/com.vmware.vsphere.vm_admin.do... Not so fair in my opinion. Gianluca
AFAIK this is the way to keep Oracle quiet: http://captainkvm.com/2012/10/virtualizing-oracle-11g-on-rhev-3-0-netapp/ On 14 May 2018, at 11:50, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com<mailto:gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com>> wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Simon Coter <simon.coter@gmail.com<mailto:simon.coter@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Nicola, CPU pinning granted by oVirt is not a supported method to apply hardware-partitioning for Oracle products on top of VMs. The only supported method/solution is available on Oracle VM Server. You can see further details at: http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/partitioning-070609.pdf Simon Correct. But very arguable from a technological point of view (in my opinion of course). I don't see differences in what you have to do in Oracle VM to get cpu pinning and "accepted" hard-partitioning (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/vm/ovm-hardpart-168217.pdf referred in the linked pdf above), from what you can do in vSphere, oVirt or RHV to get the same result: eg oVirt: https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/sla/cpu-pinning/ RHV: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_virtualization/4.1/htm... vSphere 5.1 https://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-51/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.vsphere.vm_... vSphere 6.0 https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-vSphere/6.0/com.vmware.vsphere.vm_admin.do... Not so fair in my opinion. Gianluca _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org<mailto:users-leave@ovirt.org>
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Vinícius Ferrão <ferrao@if.ufrj.br> wrote:
AFAIK this is the way to keep Oracle quiet: http://captainkvm.com/2012/10/ virtualizing-oracle-11g-on-rhev-3-0-netapp/
Hi, that document, even if dated, simply confirms in its contents what we already wrote: " Oracle considers RHEV and most other virtualization platforms to be “soft” partitioning. The only virtualization platform that Oracle supports under hard partitioning is their own OVM. Really, all they are really doing is pinning CPUs to a VM, and therefore the Oracle database, but you can do that with any hypervisor… Honestly, I can’t roll my eyes hard enough to indicate my disdain.. " And it contains indications about techniques with Netapp to be able to easily reproduce the environment on physical hardware in case you have problems with Oracle in your virtualized RDBMS. There are also collaborations between vendors to simplify management in case of problems and need of opening an SR: https://www.vmware.com/it/support/policies/oracle-support.html There is also official Oracle Document ID related to VMware: 249212.1 and I think it could apply to other virtualization technologies too. HIH, Gianluca
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