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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tamer Lima" <tamer.americo(a)gmail.com>
To: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:30:11 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] necessity to run yum update ovirt-engine-setup to update ovirt
3.4
Hello, mister
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Yedidyah Bar David <didi(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tamer Lima" <tamer.americo(a)gmail.com>
> > To: users(a)ovirt.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:18:51 PM
> > Subject: [ovirt-users] necessity to run yum update ovirt-engine-setup to
> update ovirt 3.4
> >
> > hello,
> >
> > upgrade from ovirt 3.3 to 3.4
> > following the steps on ovirt.org/OVirt_3.4_Release_Notes
> >
> > I tried update from yum, without success
> >
> >
> >
> > yum update {ovirt-engine-setup, ovirt-engine , ovirt-release and
> > ovirt-release-el6 }
>
> Where do you see instructions to update ovirt-engine? You cannot update
> it directly because it's version-locked. This is done to ensure that
> you do not run a newer engine with an older database - the main task
> engine-setup does during an upgrade is updating the database.
>
>
I followed this anchor :
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.4_Release_Notes#Fedora_.2F_CentOS_.2F_RHEL
====================
If you're upgrading from oVirt 3.3 you should just execute:
# yum update ovirt-engine-setup
# engine-setup
==========================
> >
> > Then I tried the following command and it worked fine: engine-setup
>
> Didn't it tell you that there are updates to Setup and that you should
> first 'yum update ovirt-engine-setup'? Probably during your attempts
> you did update it.
>
>
Well, according the output on prompt shell, there was no update : "No
Packages marked for Update"
Obviously, if it's already updated by your cron.
> >
> > Now my ovirt works fine, my cluster is running virtual machines on
> > compatibility mode 3.3 although ovirt is now 3.4
>
> Great :-)
>
> >
> > Then I ask : What is the necessity to execute yum update
> ovirt-engine-setup
> > if when I execute only engine-setup this script search for updates ?
>
> engine-setup searches for both updates to the engine and to Setup itself.
> If it finds updates to Setup, it tells you to manually update it with yum.
> If it finds other updates it asks you to confirm updating and then updates.
>
> >
> >
>
ok. thanks .
> >
> >
> >
> > Failed command list execution
> > For each command yum update {ovirt-engine-setup, ovirt-engine ,
> ovirt-release
> > and ovirt-release-el6 } the result was the same :
> >
> >
> >
> > Loaded plugins: downloadonly, fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit,
> security,
> > versionlock
> > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
> > * base: mirror.globo.com
> > * epel: mirror.globo.com
> > * extras: mirror.globo.com
> > * ovirt-epel: mirror.globo.com
> > * updates: mirror.globo.com
> > Setting up Update Process
> > No Packages marked for Update
>
>
> Most probably you did update ovirt-engine-setup at some point.
> If you want to further debug this, please look at and/or post your yum.log.
>
>
you are right. thanks. on april,6 my yumcron updated ovirt to 3.4. (just
update, not setup)
[root@srv-0202 ~]# more /var/log/yum.log | grep ovirt
Feb 27 13:08:05 Installed: ovirt-release-11.0.2-1.noarch
Feb 27 13:52:17 Installed: ovirt-engine-sdk-python-3.3.3.0-1.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:52:18 Installed: ovirt-host-deploy-1.1.3-1.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:52:22 Installed: ovirt-image-uploader-3.3.3-1.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:52:22 Installed: ovirt-iso-uploader-3.3.3-1.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:52:23 Installed: ovirt-engine-lib-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:52:23 Installed: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:52:36 Installed: ovirt-log-collector-3.3.3-1.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:52:36 Installed: ovirt-host-deploy-java-1.1.3-1.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:16 Installed: ovirt-engine-cli-3.3.0.6-1.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:19 Installed: ovirt-engine-userportal-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:26 Installed: ovirt-engine-webadmin-portal-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:26 Installed: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:26 Installed: ovirt-engine-restapi-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:26 Installed: ovirt-engine-tools-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:26 Installed: ovirt-engine-setup-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:27 Installed: ovirt-engine-backend-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:27 Installed: ovirt-engine-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:59 Installed: ovirt-host-deploy-offline-1.1.3-1.el6.noarch
Feb 27 13:53:59 Installed:
ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-allinone-3.3.3-2.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:21:12 Updated: ovirt-engine-sdk-python-3.4.0.6-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:21:12 Updated: ovirt-engine-lib-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:21:13 Installed: ovirt-engine-setup-base-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:21:13 Updated: ovirt-host-deploy-1.2.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:21:38 Installed:
ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-websocket-proxy-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:21:38 Installed:
ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-ovirt-engine-common-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:21:38 Installed:
ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-ovirt-engine-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:00 Updated: ovirt-host-deploy-offline-1.2.0-1.el6.x86_64
Apr 06 04:22:00 Updated:
ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-allinone-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:00 Updated: ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:00 Updated: ovirt-host-deploy-java-1.2.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:00 Updated: ovirt-engine-setup-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:02 Updated: ovirt-log-collector-3.4.1-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:02 Updated: ovirt-image-uploader-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:02 Updated: ovirt-engine-cli-3.4.0.5-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:02 Updated: ovirt-iso-uploader-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 06 04:22:08 Updated: ovirt-release-11.1.0-1.noarch
Apr 09 11:46:08 Updated: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 09 11:46:16 Updated: ovirt-engine-webadmin-portal-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 09 11:46:17 Updated: ovirt-engine-backend-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 09 11:46:17 Updated: ovirt-engine-restapi-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 09 11:46:17 Updated: ovirt-engine-tools-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 09 11:46:17 Updated: ovirt-engine-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 09 11:46:24 Updated: ovirt-engine-userportal-3.4.0-1.el6.noarch
Apr 10 03:27:27 Updated: ovirt-release-11.2.0-1.noarch
in fact, the 2 steps are correct : first update with yum , then finally
execute engine-setup.
Now I am thinking about it.
I have to verify yum updates, because my system can be updated a long
without my knowledge,
but is mandatory to make a setup after this update. otherwise, in practice
ovirt is not well deployed, right ?
Not sure what you ask exactly.
If it's "I want to keep my system automatically up-to-date all the time.
What should I do?", then, yes, you are right. 'yum update' is not enough,
you also need to run engine-setup. I would not recommend to do that in
cron - you might want to make a cron job that alerts you somehow if there
are updates, but actually run 'engine-setup' manually. That said, generally
speaking, during a specific version, the questions and answers asked during
upgrade are not changed, so you can create an answer file for e.g. 3.4
updates, verify that engine-setup with this answer file works as expected,
and run it from cron.
If it's "I run yum update in cron. I understand that I also need to run
engine-setup to update the engine. Should I expect any damage from not
doing that - that is, having updated packages without running engine-setup?",
then no, the packages that are sensitive to database content are version-locked,
and will not be updated by a normal yum update.
Best regards,
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