Dear Strahil, Amit,   Thank you for the suggestion. Test result with block size 4096: Network storage: avshared: [root@mpoludctest4udc-1 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 275.522 s, 1.5 MB/s   Local storage:   avlocal2: [root@mpollocalcheck22 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 53.093 s, 7.7 MB/s 10:38 avlocal3: [root@mpollocalcheck3 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 46.0392 s, 8.9 MB/s   As Amit suggested, I am also going to execute same tests on the BareMetals and between BareMetal and NFS to compare results.     — — — Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Marko Vrgotic         From: Strahil <hunter86_bg(a)yahoo.com&gt; Date: Tuesday, 24 September 2019 at 19:10 To: "Vrgotic, Marko" <M.Vrgotic(a)activevideo.com&gt;, Amit <abawer@redhat .com> Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: Super Low VM disk IO via Shared Storage   Why don't you try with 4096 ? Most block devices have a blcok size of 4096 and anything bellow is slowing them down. Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov On Sep 24, 2019 17:40, Amit Bawer <abawer(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: have you reproduced performance issue when checking this directly with the shared storage mount, outside the VMs?   On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:53 PM Vrgotic, Marko <M.Vrgotic@activevideo .com> wrote: Dear oVirt,   I have executed some tests regarding IO disk speed on the VMs, running on shared storage and local storage in oVirt.   Results of the tests on local storage domains: avlocal2: [root@mpollocalcheck22 ~]#  dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 45.9756 s, 1.1 MB/s   avlocal3: [root@mpollocalcheck3 ~]#  dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 43.6179 s, 1.2 MB/s   Results of the test on shared storage domain: avshared: [root@mpoludctest4udc-1 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 283.499 s, 181 kB/s   Why is it so low? Is there anything I can do to tune, configure VDSM or other service to speed this up? Any advice is appreciated.   Shared storage is based on Netapp with 20Gbps LACP path from Hypervisor to Netapp volume, and set to MTU 9000. Used protocol is NFS4.0. oVirt is 4.3.4.3 SHE.     _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: < _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/communit y-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/ message/7XYSFEGAHCWXIY2JILDE24EVAC5ZVKWU/

Dear Strahil, Amit, Thank you for the suggestion. Test result with block size 4096: Network storage: avshared: [root@mpoludctest4udc-1 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 275.522 s, 1.5 MB/s Local storage: avlocal2: [root@mpollocalcheck22 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 53.093 s, 7.7 MB/s 10:38 avlocal3: [root@mpollocalcheck3 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 46.0392 s, 8.9 MB/s As Amit suggested, I am also going to execute same tests on the BareMetals and between BareMetal and NFS to compare results. — — — Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Marko Vrgotic From: Strahil <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com<mailto:hunter86_bg@yahoo.com>> Date: Tuesday, 24 September 2019 at 19:10 To: "Vrgotic, Marko" <M.Vrgotic@activevideo.com<mailto:M.Vrgotic@activevideo.com>>, Amit <abawer@redhat .com> Cc: users <users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: Super Low VM disk IO via Shared Storage Why don't you try with 4096 ? Most block devices have a blcok size of 4096 and anything bellow is slowing them down. Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov On Sep 24, 2019 17:40, Amit Bawer <abawer@redhat.com<mailto:abawer@redhat.com>> wrote: have you reproduced performance issue when checking this directly with the shared storage mount, outside the VMs? On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:53 PM Vrgotic, Marko <M.Vrgotic@activevideo .com> wrote: Dear oVirt, I have executed some tests regarding IO disk speed on the VMs, running on shared storage and local storage in oVirt. Results of the tests on local storage domains: avlocal2: [root@mpollocalcheck22 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 45.9756 s, 1.1 MB/s avlocal3: [root@mpollocalcheck3 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 43.6179 s, 1.2 MB/s Results of the test on shared storage domain: avshared: [root@mpoludctest4udc-1 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 count=100000 oflag=dsync 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 283.499 s, 181 kB/s Why is it so low? Is there anything I can do to tune, configure VDSM or other service to speed this up? Any advice is appreciated. Shared storage is based on Netapp with 20Gbps LACP path from Hypervisor to Netapp volume, and set to MTU 9000. Used protocol is NFS4.0. oVirt is 4.3.4.3 SHE. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org<mailto:users-leave@ovirt.org> Privacy Statement: < _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org<mailto:users-leave@ovirt.org> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/communit y-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/ message/7XYSFEGAHCWXIY2JILDE24EVAC5ZVKWU/

Hi oVirt gurus, Thank s to Tony, who pointed me into discovery process, the performance of the IO seems greatly dependent on the flags. [root@lgu215 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test1.img bs=512 count=100000 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 0.108962 s, *470 MB/s* [root@lgu215 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test1.img bs=512 count=100000 *oflag=dsync* 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 322.314 s, *159 kB/s* Dsync flag tells dd to ignore all buffers, cache except certain kernel buffers and write data physically to the disc, before writing further. According to number of sites I looked at, this is the way to test Server Latency in regards to IO operations. Difference in performance is huge, as you can see (below I have added results from tests with 4k and 8k block) Still, certain software component we run tests with writes data in this/similar way, which is why I got this complaint in the first place. Here is my current NFS mount settings: rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=65536,wsize=65536,namlen=255,soft,nosharecache,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=6,sec=sys,clientaddr=172.17.28.11,local_lock=none,addr=172.17.28.5 *If you have any suggestions on possible NFS tuning options, to try to increase performance, I would highly appreciate it.*

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Test results with 4096 and 8192 byte size. [root@lgu215 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test1.img bs=4096 count=100000 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 1.49831 s, *273 MB/s* [root@lgu215-admin ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test1.img bs=4096 count=100000 *oflag=dsync* 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 349.041 s, *1.2 MB/s* [root@lgu215 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test1.img bs=8192 count=100000 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 819200000 bytes (819 MB) copied, 11.6553 s, *70.3 MB/s* [root@lgu215-admin ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test1.img bs=8192 count=100000 *oflag=dsync* 100000+0 records in 100000+0 records out 819200000 bytes (819 MB) copied, 393.035 s, *2.1 MB/s* *From: *"Vrgotic, Marko" <M.Vrgotic(a)activevideo.com&gt; *Date: *Thursday, 26 September 2019 at 09:51 *To: *Amit Bawer <abawer(a)redhat.com&gt; *Cc: *Tony Brian Albers <tba(a)kb.dk&gt;, &quot;hunter86_bg(a)yahoo.com&quot; < hunter86_bg(a)yahoo.com&gt;, &quot;users(a)ovirt.org&quot; <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; *Subject: *Re: [ovirt-users] Re: Super Low VM disk IO via Shared Storage Dear all, I very much appreciate all help and suggestions so far. Today I will send the test results and current mount settings for NFS4. Our production setup is using Netapp based NFS server. I am surprised with results from Tony’s test. We also have one setup with Gluster based NFS, and I will run tests on those as well. Sent from my iPhone On 25 Sep 2019, at 14:18, Amit Bawer <abawer(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 2:44 PM Tony Brian Albers <tba(a)kb.dk&gt; wrote: Guys, Just for info, this is what I'm getting on a VM that is on shared storage via NFSv3: --------------------------snip---------------------- [root@proj-000 ~]# time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=4096 count=1000000 1000000+0 records in 1000000+0 records out 4096000000 bytes (4.1 GB) copied, 18.0984 s, 226 MB/s real 0m18.171s user 0m1.077s sys 0m4.303s [root@proj-000 ~]# --------------------------snip---------------------- my /etc/exports: /data/ovirt *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,all_squash,anonuid=36,anongid=36) and output from 'mount' on one of the hosts: sto-001.kac.lokalnet:/data/ovirt on /rhev/data-center/mnt/sto- 001.kac.lokalnet:_data_ovirt type nfs (rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,soft,nolock, nosharecache,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=6,sec=sys,mountaddr=172.16.216 .41,mountvers=3,mountport=20048,mountproto=udp,local_lock=all,addr=172. 16.216.41) Worth to compare mount options with the slow shared NFSv4 mount. Window size tuning can be found at bottom of [1], although its relating to NFSv3, it could be relevant to v4 as well. [1] https://www.ovirt.org/develop/troubleshooting-nfs-storage-issues.html connected via single 10gbit ethernet. Storage on NFS server is 8 x 4TB SATA disks in RAID10. NFS server is running CentOS 7.6. Maybe you can get some inspiration from this. /tony On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 09:59 +0000, Vrgotic, Marko wrote: > Dear Strahil, Amit, > > Thank you for the suggestion. > Test result with block size 4096: > Network storage: > avshared: > [root@mpoludctest4udc-1 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 > count=100000 oflag=dsync > 100000+0 records in > 100000+0 records out > 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 275.522 s, 1.5 MB/s > > Local storage: > > avlocal2: > [root@mpollocalcheck22 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 > count=100000 oflag=dsync > 100000+0 records in > 100000+0 records out > 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 53.093 s, 7.7 MB/s > 10:38 > avlocal3: > [root@mpollocalcheck3 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=4096 > count=100000 oflag=dsync > 100000+0 records in > 100000+0 records out > 409600000 bytes (410 MB) copied, 46.0392 s, 8.9 MB/s > > As Amit suggested, I am also going to execute same tests on the > BareMetals and between BareMetal and NFS to compare results. > > > — — — > Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, > > Marko Vrgotic > > > > > From: Strahil <hunter86_bg(a)yahoo.com&gt; > Date: Tuesday, 24 September 2019 at 19:10 > To: "Vrgotic, Marko" <M.Vrgotic(a)activevideo.com&gt;, Amit <abawer@redhat > .com> > Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: Super Low VM disk IO via Shared > Storage > > Why don't you try with 4096 ? > Most block devices have a blcok size of 4096 and anything bellow is > slowing them down. > Best Regards, > Strahil Nikolov > On Sep 24, 2019 17:40, Amit Bawer <abawer(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > have you reproduced performance issue when checking this directly > with the shared storage mount, outside the VMs? > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:53 PM Vrgotic, Marko <M.Vrgotic@activevideo > .com> wrote: > Dear oVirt, > > I have executed some tests regarding IO disk speed on the VMs, > running on shared storage and local storage in oVirt. > > Results of the tests on local storage domains: > avlocal2: > [root@mpollocalcheck22 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 > count=100000 oflag=dsync > 100000+0 records in > 100000+0 records out > 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 45.9756 s, 1.1 MB/s > > avlocal3: > [root@mpollocalcheck3 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 > count=100000 oflag=dsync > 100000+0 records in > 100000+0 records out > 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 43.6179 s, 1.2 MB/s > > Results of the test on shared storage domain: > avshared: > [root@mpoludctest4udc-1 ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test2.img bs=512 > count=100000 oflag=dsync > 100000+0 records in > 100000+0 records out > 51200000 bytes (51 MB) copied, 283.499 s, 181 kB/s > > Why is it so low? Is there anything I can do to tune, configure VDSM > or other service to speed this up? > Any advice is appreciated. > > Shared storage is based on Netapp with 20Gbps LACP path from > Hypervisor to Netapp volume, and set to MTU 9000. Used protocol is > NFS4.0. > oVirt is 4.3.4.3 SHE. > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org > Privacy Statement: < > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org > Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ > oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/communit > y-guidelines/ > List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/ > message/7XYSFEGAHCWXIY2JILDE24EVAC5ZVKWU/ -- Tony Albers - Systems Architect - IT Development Royal Danish Library, Victor Albecks Vej 1, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark Tel: +45 2566 2383 - CVR/SE: 2898 8842 - EAN: 5798000792142