Why rbd support is not natively available just like glusterFS?

Dear oVirt users, We are currently looking for a virtualization solution and oVirt seems to be a good choice for us. The problem is we have to deploy it on the top of a Ceph/RBD storage. Maybe I missed something but it seems Ceph/RBD block devices are not available in oVirt, just like GlusterFS. However Qemu supports it as a native storage backend. Could you explain why it is not available ? We saw Ceph storage could be usable through OpenStack Cinder in the 3.6 version but we don't want/need to deploy an OpenStack infrastructure (and we don't found complete documentation about that). Any help on this topic would be much appreciated Thank you for advance, Best regards

Hello, Noboy knows ? Thank you ! ----- Mail original ----- De: "Gaetan SLONGO" <gslongo@it-optics.com> À: "users" <users@ovirt.org> Envoyé: Lundi 2 Novembre 2015 09:57:00 Objet: [ovirt-users] Why rbd support is not natively available just like glusterFS? Dear oVirt users, We are currently looking for a virtualization solution and oVirt seems to be a good choice for us. The problem is we have to deploy it on the top of a Ceph/RBD storage. Maybe I missed something but it seems Ceph/RBD block devices are not available in oVirt, just like GlusterFS. However Qemu supports it as a native storage backend. Could you explain why it is not available ? We saw Ceph storage could be usable through OpenStack Cinder in the 3.6 version but we don't want/need to deploy an OpenStack infrastructure (and we don't found complete documentation about that). Any help on this topic would be much appreciated Thank you for advance, Best regards _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- --

Hi Gaetan, I am also new to this community, I see a link that may help. http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Cinder_Integration On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Gaetan SLONGO <gslongo@it-optics.com> wrote:
Hello,
Noboy knows ?
Thank you !
----- Mail original -----
De: "Gaetan SLONGO" <gslongo@it-optics.com> À: "users" <users@ovirt.org> Envoyé: Lundi 2 Novembre 2015 09:57:00 Objet: [ovirt-users] Why rbd support is not natively available just like glusterFS?
Dear oVirt users,
We are currently looking for a virtualization solution and oVirt seems to be a good choice for us. The problem is we have to deploy it on the top of a Ceph/RBD storage.
Maybe I missed something but it seems Ceph/RBD block devices are not available in oVirt, just like GlusterFS. However Qemu supports it as a native storage backend. Could you explain why it is not available ?
We saw Ceph storage could be usable through OpenStack Cinder in the 3.6 version but we don't want/need to deploy an OpenStack infrastructure (and we don't found complete documentation about that).
Any help on this topic would be much appreciated
Thank you for advance,
Best regards _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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-- Best regards Junwang Zhao Department of Computer Science &Technology Peking University Beijing, 100871, PRC

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------=_Part_297_29416019.1446654803693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John,=20 Thank you for the answer. I saw this post but it is not exactly I need to k= now=20 Best regards=20 ----- Mail original ----- De: "John Hunter" <zhjwpku@gmail.com>=20 =C3=80: "Gaetan SLONGO" <gslongo@it-optics.com>=20 Cc: "users" <users@ovirt.org>=20 Envoy=C3=A9: Mercredi 4 Novembre 2015 02:16:28=20 Objet: Re: [ovirt-users] Why rbd support is not natively available just lik= e glusterFS?=20 Hi Gaetan,=20 I am also new to this community, I see a link that may help.=20 http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Cinder_Integration=20 On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Gaetan SLONGO < gslongo@it-optics.com > wro= te:=20 Hello,=20 Noboy knows ?=20 Thank you !=20 ----- Mail original -----=20 De: "Gaetan SLONGO" < gslongo@it-optics.com >=20 =C3=80: "users" < users@ovirt.org >=20 Envoy=C3=A9: Lundi 2 Novembre 2015 09:57:00=20 Objet: [ovirt-users] Why rbd support is not natively available just like gl= usterFS?=20 Dear oVirt users,=20 We are currently looking for a virtualization solution and oVirt seems to b= e a good choice for us.=20 The problem is we have to deploy it on the top of a Ceph/RBD storage.=20 Maybe I missed something but it seems Ceph/RBD block devices are not availa= ble in oVirt, just like GlusterFS. However Qemu supports it as a native sto= rage backend. Could you explain why it is not available ?=20 We saw Ceph storage could be usable through OpenStack Cinder in the 3.6 ver= sion but we don't want/need to deploy an OpenStack infrastructure (and we d= on't found complete documentation about that).=20 Any help on this topic would be much appreciated=20 Thank you for advance,=20 Best regards=20 _______________________________________________=20 Users mailing list=20 Users@ovirt.org=20 http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users=20 --=20 --=20 _______________________________________________=20 Users mailing list=20 Users@ovirt.org=20 http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users=20 --=20 Best regards=20 Junwang Zhao=20 Department of Computer Science &Technology=20 Peking University=20 Beijing, 100871, PRC=20 --=20 www.it-optics.com=20 =09 Ga=C3=ABtan SLONGO | IT & Project Manager=20 Boulevard Initialis, 28 - 7000 Mons, BELGIUM=20 Company : =09+32 (0)65 84 23 85=20 Direct : =09+32 (0)65 32 85 88=20 Fax : =09+32 (0)65 84 66 76=20 GPG Key : =09gslongo-gpg_key.asc=20 =09 - Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-= mail -=20 ------=_Part_297_29416019.1446654803693 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_298_9050961.1446654803693" ------=_Part_298_9050961.1446654803693 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><style type=3D'text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><= div style=3D'font-family: trebuchet ms,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: = #000000'>Hi John,<br><br>Thank you for the answer. I saw this post but it i= s not exactly I need to know<br><br>Best regards<br><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><d= iv style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; t= ext-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 1= 2pt;"><b>De: </b>"John Hunter" <zhjwpku@gmail.com><br><b>=C3=80: </b>= "Gaetan SLONGO" <gslongo@it-optics.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"users" <use= rs@ovirt.org><br><b>Envoy=C3=A9: </b>Mercredi 4 Novembre 2015 02:16:28<b= r><b>Objet: </b>Re: [ovirt-users] Why rbd support is not natively available= just like glusterFS?<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Gaetan,<div><br></div><div= href=3D"http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Cinder_Integration" target=3D"_blank"=
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Cinder_Integration</a></div></div><div class= =3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:55= PM, Gaetan SLONGO <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:gslongo@it-optic= s.com" target=3D"_blank">gslongo@it-optics.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><bl= ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-l= eft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hello,<br> <br> Noboy knows ?<br> <br> Thank you !<br> <br> ----- Mail original -----<br> <br> De: "Gaetan SLONGO" <<a href=3D"mailto:gslongo@it-optics.com" target=3D"= _blank">gslongo@it-optics.com</a>><br> =C3=80: "users" <<a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" target=3D"_blank">us= ers@ovirt.org</a>><br> Envoy=C3=A9: Lundi 2 Novembre 2015 09:57:00<br> Objet: [ovirt-users] Why rbd support is not natively available just like gl= usterFS?<br> <br> Dear oVirt users,<br> <br> We are currently looking for a virtualization solution and oVirt seems to b= e a good choice for us.<br> The problem is we have to deploy it on the top of a Ceph/RBD storage.<br> <br> Maybe I missed something but it seems Ceph/RBD block devices are not availa= ble in oVirt, just like GlusterFS. However Qemu supports it as a native sto= rage backend. Could you explain why it is not available ?<br> <br> We saw Ceph storage could be usable through OpenStack Cinder in the 3.6 ver= sion but we don't want/need to deploy an OpenStack infrastructure (and we d= on't found complete documentation about that).<br> <br> Any help on this topic would be much appreciated<br> <br> Thank you for advance,<br> <br> Best regards<br> _______________________________________________<br> Users mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target=3D"_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br=
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Gaetan SLONGO <gslongo@it-optics.com> wrote:
Dear oVirt users,
We are currently looking for a virtualization solution and oVirt seems to be a good choice for us. The problem is we have to deploy it on the top of a Ceph/RBD storage.
Maybe I missed something but it seems Ceph/RBD block devices are not available in oVirt, just like GlusterFS. However Qemu supports it as a native storage backend. Could you explain why it is not available ?
Because we chose to consume ceph storage via cinder. This will make it easier to use other storage backends supported by Cinder in the future.
We saw Ceph storage could be usable through OpenStack Cinder in the 3.6 version but we don't want/need to deploy an OpenStack infrastructure (and we don't found complete documentation about that).
Yes, you need to deploy Cinder to use ceph storage. What documentation is missing? Nir
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Gaetan SLONGO
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John Hunter
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Nir Soffer