hosted engine , how to make changes to the VM post deploy

I have successfully migrated my standalone ovirt into a hosted instance. I have some questions and comments. Is there a mechanism to make changes to the hosted engine VM post deploy. I would like to change some of the VM configuration choices. I tried setting the maintenance mode to "global" and then editing: /etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/vm.conf I changed something simple: the VM name. Then I copied the file to the two other HA hosts and set the maintenance mode to "none". No joy the VM hostname remains unchanged in the portal. Also, the notification system is horrendously spammy, I get email notification of each state change from each of the HA hosts, surely this is not intentional. Is there some way to control this? -Thanks, Alastair

On 11/04/2014 04:38 AM, Alastair Neil wrote:
I have successfully migrated my standalone ovirt into a hosted instance. I have some questions and comments.
Is there a mechanism to make changes to the hosted engine VM post deploy. I would like to change some of the VM configuration choices.
I tried setting the maintenance mode to "global" and then editing:
/etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/vm.conf
I changed something simple: the VM name. Then I copied the file to the two other HA hosts and set the maintenance mode to "none".
- you need to kill the vm and restart it after you edit the configuation hosted-engine --vm-shutdown hosted-engine --vm-start - also you can use virsh [1] to edit the vm [1] http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#Where_are_VM_config_files_stored.3F_How_do_...
No joy the VM hostname remains unchanged in the portal.
Also, the notification system is horrendously spammy, I get email notification of each state change from each of the HA hosts, surely this is not intentional. Is there some way to control this?
- that's a bug which should be fixed by this patch http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/33518/ --Jirka
-Thanks, Alastair
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Thanks Jirka So is this the workflow? set the hosted-engine maintenance to global
shutdown the engine VM make changes via virsh or editing vm.conf sync changes to the other ha nodes restart the VM set hosted-engine maintenance to none
Also, the patch for the broker will be in 3.5.1? -Alastair On 4 November 2014 02:50, Jiri Moskovcak <jmoskovc@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/04/2014 04:38 AM, Alastair Neil wrote:
I have successfully migrated my standalone ovirt into a hosted instance. I have some questions and comments.
Is there a mechanism to make changes to the hosted engine VM post deploy. I would like to change some of the VM configuration choices.
I tried setting the maintenance mode to "global" and then editing:
/etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/vm.conf
I changed something simple: the VM name. Then I copied the file to the two other HA hosts and set the maintenance mode to "none".
- you need to kill the vm and restart it after you edit the configuation
hosted-engine --vm-shutdown hosted-engine --vm-start
- also you can use virsh [1] to edit the vm
[1] http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#Where_are_VM_config_files_ stored.3F_How_do_I_edit_a_VM.27s_XML_config.3F
No joy the VM hostname remains unchanged in the portal.
Also, the notification system is horrendously spammy, I get email notification of each state change from each of the HA hosts, surely this is not intentional. Is there some way to control this?
- that's a bug which should be fixed by this patch http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/33518/
--Jirka
-Thanks, Alastair
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On 11/04/2014 03:52 PM, Alastair Neil wrote:
Thanks Jirka
So is this the workflow?
set the hosted-engine maintenance to global shutdown the engine VM make changes via virsh or editing vm.conf sync changes to the other ha nodes restart the VM set hosted-engine maintenance to none
- well, not official, because it can cause a lot of troubles, so I would not recommend it unless you have a really good reason to do it.
Also, the patch for the broker will be in 3.5.1?
- yes --Jirka
-Alastair
On 4 November 2014 02:50, Jiri Moskovcak <jmoskovc@redhat.com <mailto:jmoskovc@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 11/04/2014 04:38 AM, Alastair Neil wrote:
I have successfully migrated my standalone ovirt into a hosted instance. I have some questions and comments.
Is there a mechanism to make changes to the hosted engine VM post deploy. I would like to change some of the VM configuration choices.
I tried setting the maintenance mode to "global" and then editing:
/etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/vm.__conf
I changed something simple: the VM name. Then I copied the file to the two other HA hosts and set the maintenance mode to "none".
- you need to kill the vm and restart it after you edit the configuation
hosted-engine --vm-shutdown hosted-engine --vm-start
- also you can use virsh [1] to edit the vm
[1] http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/__FAQ#Where_are_VM_config_files___stored.3F_How... <http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#Where_are_VM_config_files_stored.3F_How_do_I_edit_a_VM.27s_XML_config.3F>
No joy the VM hostname remains unchanged in the portal.
Also, the notification system is horrendously spammy, I get email notification of each state change from each of the HA hosts, surely this is not intentional. Is there some way to control this?
- that's a bug which should be fixed by this patch http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/__33518/ <http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/33518/>
--Jirka
-Thanks, Alastair
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On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 08:11:39AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/04/2014 03:52 PM, Alastair Neil wrote:
So is this the workflow?
set the hosted-engine maintenance to global shutdown the engine VM make changes via virsh or editing vm.conf sync changes to the other ha nodes restart the VM set hosted-engine maintenance to none
- well, not official, because it can cause a lot of troubles, so I would not recommend it unless you have a really good reason to do it.
I'd like to move my ovirt-engine VM to a new NFS storage. I was thinking to adopt this workflow for this use-case (in combination with rsync to mirror the old storage). Do you think this would succeed or is there another (and maybe "supported") way to move ovirt-engine to a different storage? Regards - Frank

I went through this a couple months ago. Migrated my hosted-engine from one NFS host to another. Here are the steps that I documented from the experience. There is probably a better way, but this worked for me on two separate hosted-engine environments. 1. Make a backup of RHEV-M 2. Migrate VMs off all hosts that run hosted-engine (except hosted-engine itself) 3. Put hosted-engine hosts in maintenance mode (except host that's running hosted-engine) 4. Put hosted-engine in global maintenance mode 5. Shutdown hosted-engine 6. Stop ovirt-ha-agent and ovirt-ha-broker services on all hosted-engine hosts 7. On each hosted-engine host: a. service ovirt-ha-agent stop b. service ovirt-ha-broker stop c. sanlock client shutdown -f 1 d. service sanlock stop e. umount /rhev/data-center/mnt/<hosted-engine-share> f. service sanlock start 8. mount new NFS share on /hosted_tgt 9. mount old NFS share on /hosted_src 10. Copy data (make sure sparse files are kept sparse): a. rsync --sparse -crvlp /hosted_src/* /hosted_tgt/ 11. Edit /etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/hosted-engine.conf and change path: storage=10.1.208.122:/HostedEngine_Test 12. Make sure permissions are vdsm:kvm in /hosted_tgt/ 13. umount /hosted_tgt 14. umount /hosted_src 15. Pick one hosted-engine host and reboot, then run: a. hosted-engine --connect-storage (make sure the new NFS is mounted properly) b. hosted-engine --start-pool (wait a few seconds then try again if you get an error) c. service ovirt-ha-broker start d. service ovirt-ha-agent start e. hosted-engine --vm-start -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Frank Wall Sent: November-06-14 8:12 AM To: Jiri Moskovcak Cc: users Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] hosted engine , how to make changes to the VM post deploy On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 08:11:39AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/04/2014 03:52 PM, Alastair Neil wrote:
So is this the workflow?
set the hosted-engine maintenance to global shutdown the engine VM make changes via virsh or editing vm.conf sync changes to the other ha nodes restart the VM set hosted-engine maintenance to none
- well, not official, because it can cause a lot of troubles, so I would not recommend it unless you have a really good reason to do it.
I'd like to move my ovirt-engine VM to a new NFS storage. I was thinking to adopt this workflow for this use-case (in combination with rsync to mirror the old storage). Do you think this would succeed or is there another (and maybe "supported") way to move ovirt-engine to a different storage? Regards - Frank _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

does the broker automatically sync the change you made in /etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/hosted-engine.conf to the other ha hosts or did you omit a step? On 6 November 2014 11:10, Groten, Ryan <Ryan.Groten@stantec.com> wrote:
I went through this a couple months ago. Migrated my hosted-engine from one NFS host to another. Here are the steps that I documented from the experience. There is probably a better way, but this worked for me on two separate hosted-engine environments.
1. Make a backup of RHEV-M 2. Migrate VMs off all hosts that run hosted-engine (except hosted-engine itself) 3. Put hosted-engine hosts in maintenance mode (except host that's running hosted-engine) 4. Put hosted-engine in global maintenance mode 5. Shutdown hosted-engine 6. Stop ovirt-ha-agent and ovirt-ha-broker services on all hosted-engine hosts 7. On each hosted-engine host: a. service ovirt-ha-agent stop b. service ovirt-ha-broker stop c. sanlock client shutdown -f 1 d. service sanlock stop e. umount /rhev/data-center/mnt/<hosted-engine-share> f. service sanlock start 8. mount new NFS share on /hosted_tgt 9. mount old NFS share on /hosted_src 10. Copy data (make sure sparse files are kept sparse): a. rsync --sparse -crvlp /hosted_src/* /hosted_tgt/ 11. Edit /etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/hosted-engine.conf and change path: storage=10.1.208.122:/HostedEngine_Test 12. Make sure permissions are vdsm:kvm in /hosted_tgt/ 13. umount /hosted_tgt 14. umount /hosted_src 15. Pick one hosted-engine host and reboot, then run: a. hosted-engine --connect-storage (make sure the new NFS is mounted properly) b. hosted-engine --start-pool (wait a few seconds then try again if you get an error) c. service ovirt-ha-broker start d. service ovirt-ha-agent start e. hosted-engine --vm-start
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Frank Wall Sent: November-06-14 8:12 AM To: Jiri Moskovcak Cc: users Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] hosted engine , how to make changes to the VM post deploy
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 08:11:39AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/04/2014 03:52 PM, Alastair Neil wrote:
So is this the workflow?
set the hosted-engine maintenance to global shutdown the engine VM make changes via virsh or editing vm.conf sync changes to the other ha nodes restart the VM set hosted-engine maintenance to none
- well, not official, because it can cause a lot of troubles, so I would not recommend it unless you have a really good reason to do it.
I'd like to move my ovirt-engine VM to a new NFS storage. I was thinking to adopt this workflow for this use-case (in combination with rsync to mirror the old storage).
Do you think this would succeed or is there another (and maybe "supported") way to move ovirt-engine to a different storage?
Regards - Frank _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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Hi Ryan, On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 09:10:32AM -0700, Groten, Ryan wrote:
I went through this a couple months ago. Migrated my hosted-engine from one NFS host to another. Here are the steps that I documented from the experience.
just wanted to let you know that my migration went flawlessly, thanks to your documentation! Thank you for sharing this. Maybe this should be added to the official docs/wiki until there's a better way to do this. Regards - Frank
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Alastair Neil
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