From: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org&gt;, "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:43:42 PM Subject: [Users] "Last Updated" shows current time instead of last update Hi all, Sorry for cross-posting. Not sure what's the correct address to discuss this. Almost all of the pages on the ovirt.org wiki that have "Last Updated:", actually have: Last updated: {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}<!--This is markup for current date, do not change--> thus showing the current date and not the last change date. When searching google you see the last time its robot happened to fetch the page. See e.g. [1] for a (possibly non-complete) list. Not sure if that's intended or not, but I personally find it useless and misleading.

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org&gt;, "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:15:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] "Last Updated" shows current time instead of last update > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com&gt; >> To: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org&gt;, "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:43:42 PM >> Subject: [Users] "Last Updated" shows current time instead of last update >> >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry for cross-posting. Not sure what's the correct address to discuss >> this. >> >> Almost all of the pages on the ovirt.org wiki that have "Last Updated:", >> actually have: >> >> Last updated: {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}<!--This >> is >> markup for current date, do not change--> >> >> thus showing the current date and not the last change date. When searching >> google you see the last time its robot happened to fetch the page. >> >> See e.g. [1] for a (possibly non-complete) list. >> >> Not sure if that's intended or not, but I personally find it useless and >> misleading. > > This is indeed useless and wrong and should be removed. > > Does this work? > > Last updated on {{REVISIONDAY}}/{{REVISIONMONTH}}/{{REVISIONYEAR}} by > {{REVISIONUSER}} If I Edit, then Show preview, it's already updated, even before Save page. I personally find it a bit weird. Anyway, I did this on a test page and it seems to work, but I have to wait a day to make sure the date does not change... In any case, it does affect performance. Not sure it's very significant, though. I now changed the following pages (picked up randomly): http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Minimum_guaranteed_memory http://www.ovirt.org/Features/MultiHostNetworkConfiguration http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Node/PluginLiveInstall http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Node/PackageRefactoring http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Automatic_scaling I changed it to: Last updated on {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY}} by {{REVISIONUSER}} That is, ISO date. If we do not see a significant impact in a few days, we should probably edit all pages, probably with some bot.

From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org&gt;, "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:02:42 PM Subject: Re: [Users] "Last Updated" shows current time instead of last update ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org&gt;, "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:27:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] "Last Updated" shows current time instead of last > update > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com&gt; > > To: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com&gt; > > Cc: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org&gt;, "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:15:42 PM > > Subject: Re: [Users] "Last Updated" shows current time instead of last > > update > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com&gt; > > > To: "infra" <infra(a)ovirt.org&gt;, "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:43:42 PM > > > Subject: [Users] "Last Updated" shows current time instead of last > > > update > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Sorry for cross-posting. Not sure what's the correct address to discuss > > > this. > > > > > > Almost all of the pages on the ovirt.org wiki that have "Last > > > Updated:", > > > actually have: > > > > > > Last updated: {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, > > > {{CURRENTYEAR}}<!--This > > > is > > > markup for current date, do not change--> > > > > > > thus showing the current date and not the last change date. When > > > searching > > > google you see the last time its robot happened to fetch the page. > > > > > > See e.g. [1] for a (possibly non-complete) list. > > > > > > Not sure if that's intended or not, but I personally find it useless > > > and > > > misleading. > > > > This is indeed useless and wrong and should be removed. > > > > Does this work? > > > > Last updated on {{REVISIONDAY}}/{{REVISIONMONTH}}/{{REVISIONYEAR}} by > > {{REVISIONUSER}} > > If I Edit, then Show preview, it's already updated, even before Save page. > I personally find it a bit weird. Anyway, I did this on a test page and it > seems to work, but I have to wait a day to make sure the date does not > change... > > In any case, it does affect performance. Not sure it's very significant, > though. > > I now changed the following pages (picked up randomly): > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Minimum_guaranteed_memory > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/MultiHostNetworkConfiguration > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Node/PluginLiveInstall > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Node/PackageRefactoring > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Automatic_scaling > > I changed it to: > > Last updated on {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY}} by > {{REVISIONUSER}} > > That is, ISO date. Better! But see Dave version, which uses zero-padded day {{REVISIONDAY2}}

> > If we do not see a significant impact in a few days, we should probably > edit > all pages, probably with some bot. I don't see any reason why this should effect performance. The "expensive" warning is about showing revision meta data for another page.