Re: Creating VMs from templates with their own disks
Hello Sorry for the late reply, work has been crazy. This doesnt seem to work as advertised, or I am still not getting it. Either way I would really appreciate some help and guidance. Steps I have attempted: 1. Create and configure VM as I want it to be (disk, partitioning, etc). 2. Shutdown the vm, create a template from it. Cloning manually: Cloning fails with this message: Error while executing action: clone00.domain.tld: - Cannot add VM. One or more provided storage domains are either not in active status or of an illegal type for the requested operation. I cant modify the storage allocation, and the disk its attempting to use is the disk of the source VM. Manual template install: Choosing to install manually with a template requires me to add a new disk, and to boot off the CD (defined in the template) and manually set things up. This I do not wish to do, because I would rather automate. Cloning with ansible, defining the cloud-init script and using the template: VM is successfully created, but logging in with remote-viewer drops me into the installation process (setting up from the attached ISO). Which is also not desired. Please help me with what I am doing wrong. Again the goal is to have the vm setup with its own credentials. On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 9:24 AM Staniforth, Paul < P.Staniforth@leedsbeckett.ac.uk> wrote:
Hello, The VMs can get created from a template otherwise the blank template is used if a particular template is used it can be thin dependent VM the VMs disks is linked to the Templates disk and it just carries the changes made in the VMs disk (this is quicker and uses less space if you a lot of disks). The other option is to create a cloned VM and this will copy the Templates disk to the VM so it's no longer dependent.
In the ansible documentation look for the clone option.
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Im sorry, I am trying to wrap my head around this but it is difficult.
I just want to be able to stand up new vms, with their own storage, similar to how I can with plain vanilla KVM, with a template or without, maybe even with a kickstart, and hopefully with ansible.
Right now anytime I try to create a VM, using the template, (with ansible), it gets the template disk attached, and from the console I see the new vm is named as the vm I created the template with. Cloud init script that is meant to rename the vm, and join it to IPA, is ignored.
If I create storage for the vm, before creating it, both the template storage and the new storage are attached to the vm, which is also confusing. Cloud init is also ignored.
I didn't think something this straightforward would end up needing a shift in thinking about how vms are created, especially with a product that's more than likely using kvm under the hood.
I would appreciate some straightforward guiding steps, if I can get them. Really. It's been a frustrating week.
On 2021-11-17 13:50, Sina Owolabi wrote:
You can create a template with no disk, then VM's created from that template will also have no disk. Then add a new disk to the VM after you create it. This is how the default blank template works. You can also create a template with an empty disk, then every VM created will also get an empty disk by default. You can always rename disks as well.
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Hello Sina, to use the template. Create new VM and select the template. Click the advanced options. In the boot section you can set the HD to be the first boot devices and unselect any CD. In the Resource Allocation section, you can set the storage allocation to clone instead of thin ( this will create a copy of the template disk), you can also set the disk alias name. you can also edit the template to make sure the HD is the first boot device. I don't know what's in your ansible yaml definition. Cloning is for copying VMs or snapshots not templates. Regards, Paul S. ________________________________ From: Sina Owolabi <notify.sina@gmail.com> Sent: 24 November 2021 09:28 To: Staniforth, Paul <P.Staniforth@leedsbeckett.ac.uk> Cc: users@ovirt.org <users@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: Creating VMs from templates with their own disks Caution External Mail: Do not click any links or open any attachments unless you trust the sender and know that the content is safe. Hello Sorry for the late reply, work has been crazy. This doesnt seem to work as advertised, or I am still not getting it. Either way I would really appreciate some help and guidance. Steps I have attempted: 1. Create and configure VM as I want it to be (disk, partitioning, etc). 2. Shutdown the vm, create a template from it. Cloning manually: Cloning fails with this message: Error while executing action: clone00.domain.tld: * Cannot add VM. One or more provided storage domains are either not in active status or of an illegal type for the requested operation. I cant modify the storage allocation, and the disk its attempting to use is the disk of the source VM. Manual template install: Choosing to install manually with a template requires me to add a new disk, and to boot off the CD (defined in the template) and manually set things up. This I do not wish to do, because I would rather automate. Cloning with ansible, defining the cloud-init script and using the template: VM is successfully created, but logging in with remote-viewer drops me into the installation process (setting up from the attached ISO). Which is also not desired. Please help me with what I am doing wrong. Again the goal is to have the vm setup with its own credentials. On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 9:24 AM Staniforth, Paul <P.Staniforth@leedsbeckett.ac.uk<mailto:P.Staniforth@leedsbeckett.ac.uk>> wrote: Hello, The VMs can get created from a template otherwise the blank template is used if a particular template is used it can be thin dependent VM the VMs disks is linked to the Templates disk and it just carries the changes made in the VMs disk (this is quicker and uses less space if you a lot of disks). The other option is to create a cloned VM and this will copy the Templates disk to the VM so it's no longer dependent. 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Regards, Paul S. ________________________________ From: notify.sina@gmail.com<mailto:notify.sina@gmail.com> <notify.sina@gmail.com<mailto:notify.sina@gmail.com>> Sent: 18 November 2021 07:34 To: users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> <users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org>> Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: Creating VMs from templates with their own disks Caution External Mail: Do not click any links or open any attachments unless you trust the sender and know that the content is safe. Im sorry, I am trying to wrap my head around this but it is difficult. I just want to be able to stand up new vms, with their own storage, similar to how I can with plain vanilla KVM, with a template or without, maybe even with a kickstart, and hopefully with ansible. Right now anytime I try to create a VM, using the template, (with ansible), it gets the template disk attached, and from the console I see the new vm is named as the vm I created the template with. Cloud init script that is meant to rename the vm, and join it to IPA, is ignored. If I create storage for the vm, before creating it, both the template storage and the new storage are attached to the vm, which is also confusing. Cloud init is also ignored. I didn't think something this straightforward would end up needing a shift in thinking about how vms are created, especially with a product that's more than likely using kvm under the hood. I would appreciate some straightforward guiding steps, if I can get them. Really. It's been a frustrating week.
On 2021-11-17 13:50, Sina Owolabi wrote:
You can create a template with no disk, then VM's created from that template will also have no disk. Then add a new disk to the VM after you create it. This is how the default blank template works. You can also create a template with an empty disk, then every VM created will also get an empty disk by default. You can always rename disks as well.
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