On the create disk page, there is option to create disk that is from managed block, I want wo know what’s kind of it ? Ceph block device ? Thanks! _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/RSQSTL5SR5T...

What's the difference between cender page and Managed Block page ？ If have to connect them through cinderlib，why not put them all under cinder page ？ *From:* Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2021 6:14 PM *To:* Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; *Cc:* users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? yes, we support ceph via cinderlib, so in theory any vendor with a storage driver for cinder can work, but we only test ceph On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 1:06 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: On the create disk page, there is option to create disk that is from managed block, I want wo know what’s kind of it ? Ceph block device ? Thanks! _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/RSQSTL5SR5T...

You mean to configure ceph in Cinder pages must be connected to real openstack? Can ceph be connected to a Managed Block page by simply linking to cenderlib files without accessing the actual openstack? I am very interested in this section, can you send some related guide documents? Thank you very much! *From:* Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2021 7:27 PM *To:* Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; *Cc:* users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? cinder uses an actual openstack environment setup with cinder, cinderlib does not require it On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:17 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: What's the difference between cender page and Managed Block page ？ If have to connect them through cinderlib，why not put them all under cinder page ？ *From:* Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2021 6:14 PM *To:* Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; *Cc:* users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? yes, we support ceph via cinderlib, so in theory any vendor with a storage driver for cinder can work, but we only test ceph On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 1:06 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: On the create disk page, there is option to create disk that is from managed block, I want wo know what’s kind of it ? Ceph block device ? Thanks! _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/RSQSTL5SR5T...

Thank you very much! I read the documentation and found out that you are one of the authors of this feature! I guess I asked the right person. After installed the CinderLib as you mentioned in the second link, do I still need to run engine setup and integrate CinderLib to use Managed Block ? [root@olvmm ~]# engine-setup --reconfigure-optional-components [ INFO ] Stage: Initializing [ INFO ] Stage: Environment setup Configuration files: ['/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/10-packaging-jboss.conf', '/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/10-packaging.conf', '/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/20-setup-ovirt-post.conf'] Log file: /var/log/ovirt-engine/setup/ovirt-engine-setup-20210914130015-1qjhwx.l og Version: otopi-1.8.4 (otopi-1.8.4-1.el7) [ INFO ] Stage: Environment packages setup [ INFO ] Stage: Programs detection [ INFO ] Stage: Environment setup (late) [ INFO ] Stage: Environment customization --== PRODUCT OPTIONS ==-- Set up Cinderlib integration (Currently in tech preview) (Yes, No) [No]: Yes [ INFO ] ovirt-provider-ovn already installed, skipping. From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 9:20 PM To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? cinderlib (Managed Block Storage) does not use openstack at all, we have an example of how to add ceph in the feature page[1] and docs have instructions on how to set it up[2] [1] https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/storage/cind erlib-integration.html [2] https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/installing_ovirt_as_a_standalone_m anager_with_local_databases/#Set_up_Cinderlib On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:43 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: You mean to configure ceph in Cinder pages must be connected to real openstack? Can ceph be connected to a Managed Block page by simply linking to cenderlib files without accessing the actual openstack? I am very interested in this section, can you send some related guide documents? Thank you very much! From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 7:27 PM To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? cinder uses an actual openstack environment setup with cinder, cinderlib does not require it On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:17 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: What's the difference between cender page and Managed Block page ？ If have to connect them through cinderlib，why not put them all under cinder page ？ From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 6:14 PM To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? yes, we support ceph via cinderlib, so in theory any vendor with a storage driver for cinder can work, but we only test ceph On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 1:06 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: On the create disk page, there is option to create disk that is from managed block, I want wo know what’s kind of it ? Ceph block device ? Thanks! _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/RSQSTL5S R5TE6DKAJZLECVI52OW6ZLXZ/

But my system version is 4.3, so how can I activate it? Do I should install as documented before running engine- Setup? It seems that CiderLib is also given a database to create while running engine-setup，so I guess the setup-config maybe also important. -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces(a)ovirt.org <users-bounces(a)ovirt.org&gt; On Behalf Of Benny Zlotnik Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:09 PM To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? If it's already enabled there's no need to run it again. I looked at the doc again now, and it's slightly outdated, since 4.4.8 we add the required openstack (victoria) and ceph repos automatically On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 8:18 AM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > Thank you very much! > > I read the documentation and found out that you are one of the authors of this feature! I guess I asked the right person. > > After installed the CinderLib as you mentioned in the second link, do I still need to run engine setup and integrate CinderLib to use Managed Block ? > > > > > > [root@olvmm ~]# engine-setup --reconfigure-optional-components > > [ INFO ] Stage: Initializing > > [ INFO ] Stage: Environment setup > > Configuration files: > ['/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/10-packaging-jboss.conf', > '/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/10-packaging.conf', > '/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/20-setup-ovirt-post.conf'] > > Log file: > /var/log/ovirt-engine/setup/ovirt-engine-setup-20210914130015-1qjhwx > .l > og > > Version: otopi-1.8.4 (otopi-1.8.4-1.el7) > > [ INFO ] Stage: Environment packages setup > > [ INFO ] Stage: Programs detection > > [ INFO ] Stage: Environment setup (late) > > [ INFO ] Stage: Environment customization > > > > --== PRODUCT OPTIONS ==-- > > > > Set up Cinderlib integration > > (Currently in tech preview) > > (Yes, No) [No]: Yes > > [ INFO ] ovirt-provider-ovn already installed, skipping. > > > > > > > > > > From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 9:20 PM > To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; > Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? > > > > cinderlib (Managed Block Storage) does not use openstack at all, we > have an example of how to add ceph in the feature page[1] > > and docs have instructions on how to set it up[2] > > > > > > [1] > https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/storage/ci > nd > erlib-integration.html > > [2] > https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/installing_ovirt_as_a_standalone > _m anager_with_local_databases/#Set_up_Cinderlib > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:43 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > You mean to configure ceph in Cinder pages must be connected to real openstack? > > Can ceph be connected to a Managed Block page by simply linking to cenderlib files without accessing the actual openstack? > > > > I am very interested in this section, can you send some related guide documents? > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 7:27 PM > To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; > Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? > > > > cinder uses an actual openstack environment setup with cinder, > cinderlib does not require it > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:17 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > > > What's the difference between cender page and Managed Block page ？ > > If have to connect them through cinderlib，why not put them all > under cinder page ？ > > > > > > > > From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 6:14 PM > To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; > Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? > > > > yes, we support ceph via cinderlib, so in theory any vendor with a > storage driver for cinder can work, but we only test ceph > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 1:06 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > On the create disk page, there is option to create disk that is from managed block, I want wo know what’s kind of it ? Ceph block device ? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email > to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy > Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html > oVirt Code of Conduct: > https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ > List Archives: > https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/RSQSTL > 5S > R5TE6DKAJZLECVI52OW6ZLXZ/ _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/W4SI72QY XNBL5WMDKTVWFGQ53IOCMFEC/

Do you mean that in the new version, I only need to configure CINDERLib when running Ovirt-Engine, and then I can connect to Ceph server directly in the admin interface? -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces(a)ovirt.org <users-bounces(a)ovirt.org&gt; On Behalf Of Benny Zlotnik Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:56 PM To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? I see, if you use 4.3 you will have to add the repos manually on the ovirt-engine node and vdsm hosts If you did not enable cinderlib in engine-setup previously you have to do that, yes On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:43 AM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > But my system version is 4.3, so how can I activate it? > Do I should install as documented before running engine- Setup? > It seems that CiderLib is also given a database to create while running engine-setup，so I guess the setup-config maybe also important. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: users-bounces(a)ovirt.org <users-bounces(a)ovirt.org&gt; On Behalf Of > Benny Zlotnik > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:09 PM > To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; > Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? > > If it's already enabled there's no need to run it again. I looked at > the doc again now, and it's slightly outdated, since 4.4.8 we add > the required openstack (victoria) and ceph repos automatically > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 8:18 AM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > I read the documentation and found out that you are one of the authors of this feature! I guess I asked the right person. > > > > After installed the CinderLib as you mentioned in the second link, do I still need to run engine setup and integrate CinderLib to use Managed Block ? > > > > > > > > > > > > [root@olvmm ~]# engine-setup --reconfigure-optional-components > > > > [ INFO ] Stage: Initializing > > > > [ INFO ] Stage: Environment setup > > > > Configuration files: > > ['/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/10-packaging-jboss.conf', > > '/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/10-packaging.conf', > > '/etc/ovirt-engine-setup.conf.d/20-setup-ovirt-post.conf'] > > > > Log file: > > /var/log/ovirt-engine/setup/ovirt-engine-setup-20210914130015-1qjh > > wx > > .l > > og > > > > Version: otopi-1.8.4 (otopi-1.8.4-1.el7) > > > > [ INFO ] Stage: Environment packages setup > > > > [ INFO ] Stage: Programs detection > > > > [ INFO ] Stage: Environment setup (late) > > > > [ INFO ] Stage: Environment customization > > > > > > > > --== PRODUCT OPTIONS ==-- > > > > > > > > Set up Cinderlib integration > > > > (Currently in tech preview) > > > > (Yes, No) [No]: Yes > > > > [ INFO ] ovirt-provider-ovn already installed, skipping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; > > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 9:20 PM > > To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; > > Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? > > > > > > > > cinderlib (Managed Block Storage) does not use openstack at all, > > we have an example of how to add ceph in the feature page[1] > > > > and docs have instructions on how to set it up[2] > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/storage/ > > ci > > nd > > erlib-integration.html > > > > [2] > > https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/installing_ovirt_as_a_standalo > > ne _m anager_with_local_databases/#Set_up_Cinderlib > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:43 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > > > You mean to configure ceph in Cinder pages must be connected to real openstack? > > > > Can ceph be connected to a Managed Block page by simply linking to cenderlib files without accessing the actual openstack? > > > > > > > > I am very interested in this section, can you send some related guide documents? > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; > > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 7:27 PM > > To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; > > Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? > > > > > > > > cinder uses an actual openstack environment setup with cinder, > > cinderlib does not require it > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 2:17 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > > > > > > > What's the difference between cender page and Managed Block page ？ > > > > If have to connect them through cinderlib，why not put them all > > under cinder page ？ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; > > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 6:14 PM > > To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; > > Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? > > > > > > > > yes, we support ceph via cinderlib, so in theory any vendor with a > > storage driver for cinder can work, but we only test ceph > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 1:06 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > > > On the create disk page, there is option to create disk that is from managed block, I want wo know what’s kind of it ? Ceph block device ? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email > > to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy > > Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html > > oVirt Code of Conduct: > > https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ > > List Archives: > > https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/RSQS > > TL > > 5S > > R5TE6DKAJZLECVI52OW6ZLXZ/ > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email > to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy > Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html > oVirt Code of Conduct: > https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ > List Archives: > https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/W4SI72 > QY > XNBL5WMDKTVWFGQ53IOCMFEC/ > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/7UL3MLLW 7BGTVKMCHOHL7EOH5YWFIVUW/

Do you mean that I don't need to manually add cider related repo in the new version, the engine-setup process will automatically add cinder related repo and install the package?

All I need to do is select CinderLib option during Engine setup?

Then I can add Managed Block Domains in the admin interface?

As I understand it now, on 4.3 I need to enable it like this: 1. Activate the REPO source and install cinder relevant software 2, when run the engine-setup add -s ManagedBlockDomainSupported = true option 3. Add ManagedBlockDomain after installation Do I understand this correctly? Thank you very much! -----Original Message----- From: Benny Zlotnik <bzlotnik(a)redhat.com&gt; Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 7:19 PM To: Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: what kind of managed block can oVirt manage ? On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 2:11 PM Tommy Sway <sz_cuitao(a)163.com&gt; wrote: > > Do you mean that I don't need to manually add cider related repo in the new version, the engine-setup process will automatically add cinder related repo and install the package? it will add the repo but will not install the package as we had to revert this for now > All I need to do is select CinderLib option during Engine setup? in 4.3 you also need to enable: $ engine-config -s ManagedBlockDomainSupported=true > Then I can add Managed Block Domains in the admin interface? after enabling, yes