7:43 a.m.
Hello,
I'm trying to setup a nested oVirt for the first time, and according to
what I read around and experience, some special network settings have to
be chosen.
For this first try, the bare-metal host is a Debian, running KVM, and
the virtual NICs are setup as macvtap in VEPA mode.
I'm not up to date with macvtap, but I think I understood that one of
its limit was that no packet could be exchanged between the host and the
guests. So far, this is leading me to access my own local VMs from
another host. Too bad.
I'm also witnessing frequent loss of packets.
So far, I'm also seeing that guests can not ping each others, so I'm not
going further before having solved these basic issues.
I'm remembering the good old times of lots of bridges where my VMs could
be reached by anyone (this was desired), but virt manager is not
offering me this choice. I also would like to avoid NAT for other reasons.
To you all (4) people who are playing with nested oVirt :
- which is your preferred bare metal OS?
- which is your preferred guest (first virt level) OS?
- which network setups and modes are working best?
Thank you.
--
Nicolas ECARNOT
4:27 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Ecarnot <nicolas(a)ecarnot.net wrote:
I'm remembering the good old times of lots of bridges where my VMs could be
> reached by anyone (this was desired), but virt manager is not offering me
> this choice. I also would like to avoid NAT for other reasons.
> To you all (4) people who are playing with nested oVirt :
> - which is your preferred bare metal OS?
> - which is your preferred guest (first virt level) OS?
> - which network setups and modes are working best?
> Thank you.
> --
> Nicolas ECARNOT
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Hello,
I'm trying to setup a nested oVirt for the first time, and according to
what I read around and experience, some special network settings have to be
chosen.
For this first try, the bare-metal host is a Debian, running KVM, and the
virtual NICs are setup as macvtap in VEPA mode.
On what device you attached it? Bridge? the physical nic?
I'm not up to date with macvtap, but I think I understood that
one of its
limit was that no packet could be exchanged between the host and the
guests. So far, this is leading me to access my own local VMs from another
host. Too bad.
I'm also witnessing frequent loss of packets.
So far, I'm also seeing that guests can not ping each others, so I'm not
going further before having solved these basic issues.
By definition: http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/MacVTap
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Le 15/09/2016 à 23:27, Edward Haas a écrit :
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Ecarnot <nicolas(a)ecarnot.net
<mailto:nicolas@ecarnot.net>> wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to setup a nested oVirt for the first time, and
according to what I read around and experience, some special
network settings have to be chosen.
For this first try, the bare-metal host is a Debian, running KVM,
and the virtual NICs are setup as macvtap in VEPA mode.
On what device you attached it? Bridge? the physical nic?
On my physical host, ifconfig is showing the following devices :
- lo, obviously
- eth0, primary used
- wlan0, not used, WIFI...
- virbr0
- virbr0-nic
The last two devices were created when installing and playing with the
KVM Virtual Machine Manager.
When trying to assign one of them to a VM, the only choices are :
- NAT
- eth0: macvtap
- wlan0: macvtap
- custom
and the source mode can be chosen between :
- Bridge
- VEPA
- Private
- Passthrough
My main goal is simplicity, and I'd rather use simple bridging, no NAT,
simple.
What would be the simplest choice?
I'm not up to date with macvtap, but I think I understood that one
of its limit was that no packet could be exchanged between the
host and the guests. So far, this is leading me to access my own
local VMs from another host. Too bad.
I'm also witnessing frequent loss of packets.
So far, I'm also seeing that guests can not ping each others, so
I'm not going further before having solved these basic issues.
By definition: http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/MacVTap
I'm remembering the good old times of lots of bridges where my VMs
could be reached by anyone (this was desired), but virt manager is
not offering me this choice. I also would like to avoid NAT for
other reasons.
To you all (4) people who are playing with nested oVirt :
- which is your preferred bare metal OS?
- which is your preferred guest (first virt level) OS?
- which network setups and modes are working best?
Thank you.
--
Nicolas ECARNOT
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 15/09/2016 à 23:27, Edward Haas a
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:43 PM,
Nicolas Ecarnot <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
href="mailto:nicolas@ecarnot.net">nicolas@ecarnot.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote">Hello,<br>
<br>
I'm trying to setup a nested oVirt for the first time, and
according to what I read around and experience, some
special network settings have to be chosen.<br>
<br>
For this first try, the bare-metal host is a Debian,
running KVM, and the virtual NICs are setup as macvtap in
VEPA mode.<br>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
On what device you attached it? Bridge? the physical nic?<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
On my physical host, ifconfig is showing the following devices :<br>
- lo, obviously<br>
- eth0, primary used<br>
- wlan0, not used, WIFI...<br>
- virbr0<br>
- virbr0-nic<br>
<br>
The last two devices were created when installing and playing with
the KVM Virtual Machine Manager.<br>
<br>
When trying to assign one of them to a VM, the only choices are :<br>
- NAT<br>
- eth0: macvtap<br>
- wlan0: macvtap<br>
- custom<br>
<br>
and the source mode can be chosen between :<br>
- Bridge<br>
- VEPA<br>
- Private<br>
- Passthrough<br>
<br>
My main goal is simplicity, and I'd rather use simple bridging, no
NAT, simple.<br>
<br>
What would be the simplest choice?<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CALmkdFQxxAC9PEvq0tN-B2by6WB7p+1ddPWFK-pGGXs7MeQKEg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
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<div> <br>
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<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote">
I'm not up to date with macvtap, but I think I understood
that one of its limit was that no packet could be
exchanged between the host and the guests. So far, this is
leading me to access my own local VMs from another host.
Too bad.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote">
I'm also witnessing frequent loss of packets.<br>
<br>
So far, I'm also seeing that guests can not ping each
others, so I'm not going further before having solved
these basic issues.<br>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
By definition: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/MacVTap">http://virt.ker...
<br>
</div>
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solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote">
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote">
I'm remembering the good old times of lots of bridges
where my VMs could be reached by anyone (this was
desired), but virt manager is not offering me this choice.
I also would like to avoid NAT for other reasons.<br>
<br>
To you all (4) people who are playing with nested oVirt :<br>
- which is your preferred bare metal OS?<br>
- which is your preferred guest (first virt level) OS?<br>
- which network setups and modes are working best?<br>
<br>
Thank you.<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
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1:21 p.m.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Nicolas Ecarnot <nicolas(a)ecarnot.net>
wrote:
Le 15/09/2016 à 23:27, Edward Haas a écrit :
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Ecarnot <nicolas(a)ecarnot.net>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to setup a nested oVirt for the first time, and according to
> what I read around and experience, some special network settings have to be
> chosen.
>
> For this first try, the bare-metal host is a Debian, running KVM, and the
> virtual NICs are setup as macvtap in VEPA mode.
>
On what device you attached it? Bridge? the physical nic?
On my physical host, ifconfig is showing the following devices :
- lo, obviously
- eth0, primary used
- wlan0, not used, WIFI...
- virbr0
- virbr0-nic
The last two devices were created when installing and playing with the KVM
Virtual Machine Manager.
When trying to assign one of them to a VM, the only choices are :
- NAT
- eth0: macvtap
- wlan0: macvtap
- custom
and the source mode can be chosen between :
- Bridge
- VEPA
- Private
- Passthrough
My main goal is simplicity, and I'd rather use simple bridging, no NAT,
simple.
What would be the simplest choice?
With Virtual Machine Manager you can edit-connection details and create
bridges on the host that you can connect to.
I usually use an isolated network, that does not connect to the outside
world and is limited to the host. If I need it to access the outside world,
I can either connect one of the nics to the bridge created on the host or
just create another vnic that uses nat/macvtap.
Note that VMM is mainly focused on simple VM connectivity, using it for
nested virtualization is not simple and will require from you additional
effort.
> I'm not up to date with macvtap, but I think I understood that one of its
> limit was that no packet could be exchanged between the host and the
> guests. So far, this is leading me to access my own local VMs from another
> host. Too bad.
>
I'm also witnessing frequent loss of packets.
>
> So far, I'm also seeing that guests can not ping each others, so I'm not
> going further before having solved these basic issues.
>
By definition: http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/MacVTap
>
I'm remembering the good old times of lots of bridges where my VMs could
> be reached by anyone (this was desired), but virt manager is not offering
> me this choice. I also would like to avoid NAT for other reasons.
>
> To you all (4) people who are playing with nested oVirt :
> - which is your preferred bare metal OS?
> - which is your preferred guest (first virt level) OS?
> - which network setups and modes are working best?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Nicolas ECARNOT
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
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6:19 a.m.
Le 16/09/2016 à 20:21, Edward Haas a écrit :
My main goal is simplicity, and I'd rather use simple
bridging, no
NAT, simple.
What would be the simplest choice?
With Virtual Machine Manager you can edit-connection details and create
bridges on the host that you can connect to.
Exact.
I usually use an isolated network, that does not connect to the
outside
world and is limited to the host. If I need it to access the outside
world, I can either connect one of the nics to the bridge created on the
host or just create another vnic that uses nat/macvtap.
I get that.
Note that VMM is mainly focused on simple VM connectivity, using it
for
nested virtualization is not simple and will require from you additional
effort.
OK.
Would you recommend a better suited solution for nested virtualization?
--
Nicolas ECARNOT
8:26 a.m.
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Nicolas Ecarnot <nicolas(a)ecarnot.net>
wrote:
Le 16/09/2016 à 20:21, Edward Haas a écrit :
> My main goal is simplicity, and I'd rather use simple bridging, no
> NAT, simple.
>
> What would be the simplest choice?
>
>
> With Virtual Machine Manager you can edit-connection details and create
> bridges on the host that you can connect to.
>
Exact.
I usually use an isolated network, that does not connect to the outside
> world and is limited to the host. If I need it to access the outside
> world, I can either connect one of the nics to the bridge created on the
> host or just create another vnic that uses nat/macvtap.
>
I get that.
Note that VMM is mainly focused on simple VM connectivity, using it for
> nested virtualization is not simple and will require from you additional
> effort.
>
OK.
Would you recommend a better suited solution for nested virtualization?
Lago[1].
Y.
[1] lago.readthedocs.org/en/latest/README.html
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9:45 a.m.
Le 19/09/2016 à 15:26, Yaniv Kaul a écrit :
Would you recommend a better suited solution for nested
virtualization?
Lago[1].
Y.
[1] lago.readthedocs.org/en/latest/README.html
<http://lago.readthedocs.org/en/latest/README.html>
Yanniv,
I read your tweet some times ago about Lago.
Is fedora the recommended OS to play with Lago?
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10:03 a.m.
On Sep 19, 2016 5:50 PM, "Nicolas Ecarnot" <nicolas(a)ecarnot.net> wrote:
Le 19/09/2016 à 15:26, Yaniv Kaul a écrit :
>
> Would you recommend a better suited solution for nested
virtualization?
>
>
> Lago[1].
> Y.
>
> [1] lago.readthedocs.org/en/latest/README.html
> <http://lago.readthedocs.org/en/latest/README.html>
Yanniv,
I read your tweet some times ago about Lago.
Is fedora the recommended OS to play with Lago?
Yes, both my server and my laptop run F24 with Lago. Previously both were
F23.
Y.
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