I just can't seem to figure this out. I've enabled 'VirtIO Console Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there. If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't work either. thanks for any help.

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So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is every developers favorite question.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; wrote: > >> I just can't seem to figure this out. I've enabled 'VirtIO Console >> Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there. >> If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't work >> either. thanks for any help. > > Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in. > > Thanks, > michal > > [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/ > >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >

thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from virt-manager to ovirt. virsh has an edit domain function, or I can edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can try modifying the xml to add a serial console. Based on that code that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can wing it by modifying the db or xml directly. Just not sure where to go to do so. I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace device='virtio-serial' with 'serial' but that seems to easy. Any pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be great.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; wrote: > >> So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly >> what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is >> every developers favorite question. > > one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough....:-D > > ....but should be 3.4.1 > > Thanks, > michal > >> >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek >> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> I just can't seem to figure this out. I've enabled 'VirtIO Console >>>> Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there. >>>> If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't work >>>> either. thanks for any help. >>> >>> Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> michal >>> >>> [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/ >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Users mailing list >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "Jeremiah Jahn" <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console > > > On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; > wrote: > > > thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from > > virt-manager to ovirt. virsh has an edit domain function, or I can > > edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but > > obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having > > a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can > > try modifying the xml to add a serial console. Based on that code > > that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can > > wing it by modifying the db or xml directly. Just not sure where to > > go to do so. I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace > > device='virtio-serial' with 'serial' but that seems to easy. Any > > pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be > > great. > > It's a bit more complicated than that....there's no XML stored in the backend. > You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:) > The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You need > to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see > http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base > for what you're trying to do... Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want. > > Thanks, > michal > > > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek > > <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> > >> On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; > >> wrote: > >> > >>> So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly > >>> what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is > >>> every developers favorite question. > >> > >> one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough....:-D > >> > >> ....but should be 3.4.1 > >> > >> Thanks, > >> michal > >> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek > >>> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I just can't seem to figure this out. I've enabled 'VirtIO Console > >>>>> Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there. > >>>>> If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't work > >>>>> either. thanks for any help. > >>>> > >>>> Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> michal > >>>> > >>>> [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/ > >>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Users mailing list > >>>>> Users(a)ovirt.org > >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >>>> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >

> On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; wrote: > > And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each > host by hand? Yes > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon > <asegurap(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> To: "Jeremiah Jahn" <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org >>> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console >>> >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from >>>> virt-manager to ovirt. virsh has an edit domain function, or I can >>>> edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but >>>> obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having >>>> a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can >>>> try modifying the xml to add a serial console. Based on that code >>>> that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can >>>> wing it by modifying the db or xml directly. Just not sure where to >>>> go to do so. I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace >>>> device='virtio-serial' with 'serial' but that seems to easy. Any >>>> pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be >>>> great. >>> >>> It's a bit more complicated than that....there's no XML stored in the backend. >>> You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:) >>> The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You need >>> to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see >>> http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base >>> for what you're trying to do... >> >> Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want. >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> michal >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek >>>> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly >>>>>> what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is >>>>>> every developers favorite question. >>>>> >>>>> one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough....:-D >>>>> >>>>> ....but should be 3.4.1 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> michal >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek >>>>>> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just can't seem to figure this out. I've enabled 'VirtIO Console >>>>>>>> Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there. >>>>>>>> If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't work >>>>>>>> either. thanks for any help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> michal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>>>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>

On Apr 7, 2014, at 23:04 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; wrote: > that seems silly. Seems like the kinda thing that would be a nice > feature to have in the webadmin stuff. esp if you have 100's of hosts. > oh well, thanks for the help. you're not supposed to need a hook under normal circumstances, when the functionality is useful enough it should be built into vdsm natively...well, that's in progress for this one for 3.4.1:) Thanks, michal > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Skrivanek > <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >> >>> On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each >>> host by hand? >> >> Yes >> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon >>> <asegurap(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> To: "Jeremiah Jahn" <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from >>>>>> virt-manager to ovirt. virsh has an edit domain function, or I can >>>>>> edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but >>>>>> obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having >>>>>> a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can >>>>>> try modifying the xml to add a serial console. Based on that code >>>>>> that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can >>>>>> wing it by modifying the db or xml directly. Just not sure where to >>>>>> go to do so. I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace >>>>>> device='virtio-serial' with 'serial' but that seems to easy. Any >>>>>> pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be >>>>>> great. >>>>> >>>>> It's a bit more complicated than that....there's no XML stored in the backend. >>>>> You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:) >>>>> The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You need >>>>> to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see >>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base >>>>> for what you're trying to do... >>>> >>>> Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> michal >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek >>>>>> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly >>>>>>>> what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is >>>>>>>> every developers favorite question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough....:-D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ....but should be 3.4.1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> michal >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek >>>>>>>> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just can't seem to figure this out. I've enabled 'VirtIO Console >>>>>>>>>> Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there. >>>>>>>>>> If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't work >>>>>>>>>> either. thanks for any help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> michal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Users mailing list >>>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>

That's a nice theory you've got there... :) I'd think a little script management would go a long way until you have _every_ possible use case in the system. :)

As a developer I find at some point I always get talked into adding that extra bit of flexibility even though no user should ever need it. They always find something I never thought of. btw, do I put feature requests in bugzilla, or is there some other place? Thanks for all of the help. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Michal Skrivanek <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2014, at 23:04 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; wrote: > >> that seems silly. Seems like the kinda thing that would be a nice >> feature to have in the webadmin stuff. esp if you have 100's of hosts. >> oh well, thanks for the help. > > you're not supposed to need a hook under normal circumstances, when the functionality is useful enough it should be built into vdsm natively...well, that's in progress for this one for 3.4.1:) > > Thanks, > michal > >> >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Skrivanek >> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>> And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each >>>> host by hand? >>> >>> Yes >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon >>>> <asegurap(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> To: "Jeremiah Jahn" <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from >>>>>>> virt-manager to ovirt. virsh has an edit domain function, or I can >>>>>>> edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but >>>>>>> obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having >>>>>>> a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can >>>>>>> try modifying the xml to add a serial console. Based on that code >>>>>>> that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can >>>>>>> wing it by modifying the db or xml directly. Just not sure where to >>>>>>> go to do so. I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace >>>>>>> device='virtio-serial' with 'serial' but that seems to easy. Any >>>>>>> pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be >>>>>>> great. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a bit more complicated than that....there's no XML stored in the backend. >>>>>> You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:) >>>>>> The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You need >>>>>> to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see >>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base >>>>>> for what you're trying to do... >>>>> >>>>> Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> michal >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek >>>>>>> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly >>>>>>>>> what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is >>>>>>>>> every developers favorite question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough....:-D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ....but should be 3.4.1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> michal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek >>>>>>>>> <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn <jeremiah(a)goodinassociates.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I just can't seem to figure this out. I've enabled 'VirtIO Console >>>>>>>>>>> Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there. >>>>>>>>>>> If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't work >>>>>>>>>>> either. thanks for any help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> michal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>> >