oVirt 2021 Spring survey questions

Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked? -- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/> *Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.*

Desired storage options Desired single server setup with included maintenance and updates made easy Backup improvements desiderata Thanks, Gianluca On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:16 AM Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked?
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Il giorno mar 27 apr 2021 alle ore 10:13 Sandro Bonazzola < sbonazzo@redhat.com> ha scritto:
Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked?
For reference, Autumn survey results: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdzzh_MSsSq-LSQLauJzuaHC0Va1baXm84A...
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Hi, On 4/27/21 10:13 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked?
maybe something about most wanted new feature? Cheers, Jiri
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On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:55 PM Jiří Sléžka <jiri.slezka@slu.cz> wrote:
Hi,
On 4/27/21 10:13 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked?
maybe something about most wanted new feature?
+1 from me, but I'd like to add: Bugs and features are tracked in bugzilla. If you want a new feature, please open a bug, with subject starting with '[RFE]' (and bugzilla should automatically also add to it the keyword FutureFeature). If you are interested in an existing open bug/RFE, please comment on it saying so, preferably with concrete reasons as applicable. I also have vague memories about being about to press a "vote" button for bugs, but can't find it right now. Thanks and best regards, -- Didi

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:55 PM Jiří Sléžka <jiri.slezka@slu.cz> wrote:
Hi,
On 4/27/21 10:13 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked?
maybe something about most wanted new feature?
Perhaps add one or more questions about the base OS. E.g.: * What are your plans regarding the base OS, with the recent changes in CentOS? - Stay on oVirt 4.3 + CentOS 7 for the time being - Manually upgrade to CentOS Stream on both engine and hosts - Use only ovirt-node and the appliance [2] - Migrate to Red Hat Enterprise Linux or some rebuild of it (and please provide details - which one?) - More than one of the above, depending on use case (and please provide details) And perhaps also ask about plans in light of Red Hat's RHV roadmap [1], to slowly phase out RHV in favor of OpenShift Virtualization: * What are your plans for the next 2-3 years for your virtualization use (see also [1])? - Migrate to OKD/kubevirt - Stay on oVirt for the time being - Migrate to Oracle's OLVM and expect/ask that they continue supporting it further - Migrate to some other FOSS virtualization project (which? Please provide details) - Migrate to some proprietary product (which? Please provide details) [1] https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhev [2] ovirt-node and ovirt-engine-appliance are images created by oVirt for releases. These are going through at least basic testing before announcing a release. If/when oVirt starts basing them on CentOS Stream, one can expect them to be tested before the release, at least so that they can be considered some kind of a “stable base” to work from. Then, updating to newer versions of packages provided by CentOS Stream is up to the user: Some would prefer to not ever do this (until the next release of oVirt), some would cherry-pick specific updates as needed/relevant (e.g. security-related updates), and some might update everything daily (e.g. for testing). Best regards, -- Didi

Hi Sandro First of all thank you leading this project.. can you share us what is the road map of this project for next 5 years?

Also any plan to integrate ceph storage into ovirt Hyperconverged solution as we did for Gluster?

Il giorno gio 29 apr 2021 alle ore 08:08 dhanaraj.ramesh--- via Users < users@ovirt.org> ha scritto:
Hi Sandro
First of all thank you leading this project.. can you share us what is the road map of this project for next 5 years?
oVirt project tracks plans in bugzilla, you can see what's being planned here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=classification%3Aovirt and contribute shaping what's coming next. Il giorno gio 29 apr 2021 alle ore 08:10 dhanaraj.ramesh--- via Users < users@ovirt.org> ha scritto:
Also any plan to integrate ceph storage into ovirt Hyperconverged solution as we did for Gluster?
I'm not aware of any effort planned for it -- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/> *Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.*

hi Sandro, SW components used for cluster like: - RHEL8 for Ovirt management + Ovirt node for hosts - RHEL8 for Ovirt management + Alma linux node for hosts - Centos 8 Stream for Ovirt management + Centos 8 Stream for hosts ... Marek Dne 27/04/2021 v 10:13 Sandro Bonazzola napsal(a):
Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked?
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Il giorno gio 29 apr 2021 alle ore 09:37 marek <cervajs64@gmail.com> ha scritto:
hi Sandro,
SW components used for cluster like:
- RHEL8 for Ovirt management + Ovirt node for hosts
- RHEL8 for Ovirt management + Alma linux node for hosts
- Centos 8 Stream for Ovirt management + Centos 8 Stream for hosts
make sense, adding.
...
Marek
Dne 27/04/2021 v 10:13 Sandro Bonazzola napsal(a):
Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked?
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Maybe also some questions about what kind of storage people use? Do they use a dedicated file server or something distributed like gluster? Storage filesystems that could be used: XFS ZFS(FreeBSD/Solaris/Illumos/Linux) Hammer(DragonflyBSD) OneFS (EMC Isilon) GPFS(IBM) etc. /tony On 4/29/21 9:59 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
Il giorno gio 29 apr 2021 alle ore 09:37 marek <cervajs64@gmail.com <mailto:cervajs64@gmail.com>> ha scritto:
hi Sandro,
SW components used for cluster like:
- RHEL8 for Ovirt management + Ovirt node for hosts
- RHEL8 for Ovirt management + Alma linux node for hosts
- Centos 8 Stream for Ovirt management + Centos 8 Stream for hosts
make sense, adding.
...
Marek
Dne 27/04/2021 v 10:13 Sandro Bonazzola napsal(a):
Hi, it's about the usual time of the year when we ask the community to provide feedback with a survey. Any questions you'd like to be asked?
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Hi Sandro, The question is - will ovirt plan to provide database migration scripts from deprecated OpenStack provider to cinderlib? I mean put in survey actual users and quantity of images in domain Thanks, k Sent from my iPhone

Il giorno ven 30 apr 2021 alle ore 08:48 Konstantin Shalygin <k0ste@k0ste.ru> ha scritto:
Hi Sandro,
The question is - will ovirt plan to provide database migration scripts from deprecated OpenStack provider to cinderlib? I mean put in survey actual users and quantity of images in domain
Moving this question to its own thread. +Eyal Shenitzky <eshenitz@redhat.com> can you please reply
Thanks, k
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Thanks Sandro, wait for Eyal k Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Apr 2021, at 10:03, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Il giorno ven 30 apr 2021 alle ore 08:48 Konstantin Shalygin <k0ste@k0ste.ru> ha scritto: Hi Sandro,
The question is - will ovirt plan to provide database migration scripts from deprecated OpenStack provider to cinderlib? I mean put in survey actual users and quantity of images in domain
Moving this question to its own thread. +Eyal Shenitzky can you please reply

Do you think it would add significant value to your use of oVirt if - single node HCI could easily promote to 3-node HCI? - single increments of HCI nodes worked with "sensible solution of quota issues"? - extra HCI nodes (say beyond 6) could easily transition into erasure coding for good quota management, distinguishable by volumes? - oVirt clusters supported easy transition between HCI and SAN/NFS storage as initial 1 or 3 node HCI "succeed" into a broader deployment with role differentiation? - it was validated on "edgy hardware" like Atoms, which support 32GB RAM these days, nested virtualization with affordable 100% passive hardware? - oVirt node images were made only from fully validated vertical stacks, including all standard deployment variants (SAN/NFS/Gluster 1/3/6/9 node HCI) including VDO and all life-cycle operations (updates)? - import and export of OVA were fully supported/validated standard operations against oVirt, VMware and VirtualBox? - oVirt, Docker, Podman (and OKD) could work side-by-side on hosts, recognizing each other's resource allocations and networks instead of each assuming it owned the host? - RealTek drivers, both for onboard and USB3 2.5Gbit were included in the oVirt node images and actually worked properly across warm reboots? - nested virtualization was fully supported with oVirt on oVirt for fully testing migration and expansion scenarios before applying them on the physical hardware? - Ansible was just 10000x faster? - oVirt 4.3 could upgrade to 4.4 automagically and with a secure fail-back at any point? (ok, I know this is getting madly out of hand...)

Il giorno mar 4 mag 2021 alle ore 00:35 Thomas Hoberg <thomas@hoberg.net> ha scritto:
Do you think it would add significant value to your use of oVirt if
more than a question to the users community this sounds like feedback on current pain points :-) - single node HCI could easily promote to 3-node HCI?
+Rejy Cyriac <rcyriac@redhat.com> how well is documented and how can we improve the experience for this step?
- single increments of HCI nodes worked with "sensible solution of quota issues"?
- extra HCI nodes (say beyond 6) could easily transition into erasure
coding for good quota management, distinguishable by volumes? - oVirt clusters supported easy transition between HCI and SAN/NFS storage as initial 1 or 3 node HCI "succeed" into a broader deployment with role differentiation?
I think these needs further explanation but I'll let Gluster team to ask about them
- it was validated on "edgy hardware" like Atoms, which support 32GB RAM these days, nested virtualization with affordable 100% passive hardware?
Anyone willing to donate this edgy hardware to the project so we can fully validate oVirt on such hardware? https://ovirt.org/community/get-involved/donate-hardware.html
- oVirt node images were made only from fully validated vertical stacks, including all standard deployment variants (SAN/NFS/Gluster 1/3/6/9 node HCI) including VDO and all life-cycle operations (updates)?
Can you please detail the test criteria? Just noting here we lack the hardware for testing a 9 node HCI setup in oVirt Jenkins.
- import and export of OVA were fully supported/validated standard operations against oVirt, VMware and VirtualBox?
Any specific issue seen on this? - oVirt, Docker, Podman (and OKD) could work side-by-side on hosts,
recognizing each other's resource allocations and networks instead of each assuming it owned the host?
I don't foresee this to happen, if you want to run VMs and containers on the same hosts you should probably look at OKD+Kubevirt as soltution.
- RealTek drivers, both for onboard and USB3 2.5Gbit were included in the oVirt node images and actually worked properly across warm reboots?
Yes, working with 3rd party drivers is not easy while using Node. For this case a plain CentOS / RHEL would work better. There's a bug in Anaconda that doesn't allow to easily handle 3rd party driver installation with image based installation.
- nested virtualization was fully supported with oVirt on oVirt for fully testing migration and expansion scenarios before applying them on the physical hardware?
nested virtualization is used for testing oVirt on x86_64 always. All oVirt System Tests suite relies on nested virtualization working.
- Ansible was just 10000x faster?
This is not something the oVirt team can do :-) we can suggest something to speed up: https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-ansible-hosted-engine-setup#deployment-time-i... but it may have its corner cases when it may not work as espected.
- oVirt 4.3 could upgrade to 4.4 automagically and with a secure fail-back at any point? (ok, I know this is getting madly out of hand...)
maybe worth splitting the discussion on separate threads per topic.
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dhanaraj.ramesh@yahoo.com
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Gianluca Cecchi
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Jiří Sléžka
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Konstantin Shalygin
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marek
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Sandro Bonazzola
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Thomas Hoberg
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Tony Brian Albers
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Yedidyah Bar David