
I’m looking to setup bonding. I’m using Dell 2824 switches which support LAG (static 802.3ad apparently?) but not LACP (dynamic 802.3ad). Fedora only seems to support Dynamic mode from what I can tell. The next best choice seems to be balance-alb, but for some reason it’s not available as a mode in the drop down. Any reason why it’s missing? If I select custom and enter balance-alb, is that supported?

HI, Blaster I test blance-alb and works well. But I modified the ifcfg-bond.cfg manually and restart the ovirt-engine service, then the modification will be reflacted in the GUI automatically. Best Regards xie -----邮件原件----- 发件人: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] 代表 Blaster 发送时间: 2014年12月23日 12:22 收件人: Users@ovirt.org List 主题: [ovirt-users] bond mode balance-alb I’m looking to setup bonding. I’m using Dell 2824 switches which support LAG (static 802.3ad apparently?) but not LACP (dynamic 802.3ad). Fedora only seems to support Dynamic mode from what I can tell. The next best choice seems to be balance-alb, but for some reason it’s not available as a mode in the drop down. Any reason why it’s missing? If I select custom and enter balance-alb, is that supported? _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 08:32:04AM +0000, Xie, Chao wrote:
HI, Blaster I test blance-alb and works well. But I modified the ifcfg-bond.cfg manually and restart the ovirt-engine service, then the modification will be reflacted in the GUI automatically.
Best Regards xie
-----邮件原件----- 发件人: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] 代表 Blaster 发送时间: 2014年12月23日 12:22 收件人: Users@ovirt.org List 主题: [ovirt-users] bond mode balance-alb
I’m looking to setup bonding. I’m using Dell 2824 switches which support LAG (static 802.3ad apparently?) but not LACP (dynamic 802.3ad). Fedora only seems to support Dynamic mode from what I can tell.
The next best choice seems to be balance-alb, but for some reason it’s not available as a mode in the drop down. Any reason why it’s missing? If I select custom and enter balance-alb, is that supported?
Bug 1094842 - Bonding modes 0, 5 and 6 should be avoided for VM networks https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094842#c0

On 12/23/2014 2:55 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
Bug 1094842 - Bonding modes 0, 5 and 6 should be avoided for VM networks https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094842#c0
Dan, What is bad about these modes that oVirt can't use them? I just tested mode 4, and the LACP with Fedora 20 appears to not be compatible with the LAG mode on my Dell 2824. Would there be any issues with bringing two NICS into the VM and doing balance-alb at the guest level?

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 12:39:45PM -0600, Blaster wrote:
On 12/23/2014 2:55 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
Bug 1094842 - Bonding modes 0, 5 and 6 should be avoided for VM networks https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094842#c0
Dan,
What is bad about these modes that oVirt can't use them?
I can only quote jpirko's workds from the link above: Do not use tlb or alb in bridge, never! It does not work, that's it. The reason is it mangles source macs in xmit frames and arps. When it is possible, just use mode 4 (lacp). That should be always possible because all enterprise switches support that. Generally, for 99% of use cases, you *should* use mode 4. There is no reason to use other modes.
I just tested mode 4, and the LACP with Fedora 20 appears to not be compatible with the LAG mode on my Dell 2824.
Would there be any issues with bringing two NICS into the VM and doing balance-alb at the guest level?

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