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Hi, I am totally new to this. But what I am looking for is to run oVirt nod=
e on a diskless x86_64 server board. I have to pxeboot and then mount the i=
nitramfs as the final root file systems. No disk or NFS is allowed.
Is this possible with the current release?
David
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7:56 p.m.
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 09:48 -0800, Li, David wrote:
Hi, I am totally new to this. But what I am looking for is to run
oVirt node on a diskless x86_64 server board. I have to pxeboot and
then mount the initramfs as the final root file systems. No disk or
NFS is allowed.
Is this possible with the current release?
Currently, no, but it's an important feature that we're hoping to get in
the next release or 2. Our current high level design is posted on the
wiki [1]. There is also some effort going on by the archipel group to
make ovirt-node stateless as well [2]. We certainly welcome feedback on
the node-devel(a)ovirt.org mailing list or directly on the wiki.
Thanks
Mike
[1] http://ovirt.org/wiki/Node_Stateless
[2] https://github.com/primalmotion/node
David
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8:07 p.m.
Mike,
What is the timeframe we are looking at? In 3 months? Will this involve Dracut-only
changes or much more?
Thanks.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Burns [mailto:mburns@redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:57 AM
To: Li, David
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt node in a diskless environment
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 09:48 -0800, Li, David wrote:
> Hi, I am totally new to this. But what I am looking for is to run
> oVirt node on a diskless x86_64 server board. I have to pxeboot and
> then mount the initramfs as the final root file systems. No disk or
> NFS is allowed.
>
>
>
> Is this possible with the current release?
>
Currently, no, but it's an important feature that we're hoping to get in the
next release or 2. Our current high level design is posted on the wiki [1].
There is also some effort going on by the archipel group to make ovirt-node
stateless as well [2]. We certainly welcome feedback on the node-
devel(a)ovirt.org mailing list or directly on the wiki.
Thanks
Mike
[1] http://ovirt.org/wiki/Node_Stateless
[2] https://github.com/primalmotion/node
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
8:20 p.m.
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 10:07 -0800, Li, David wrote:
Mike,
What is the timeframe we are looking at? In 3 months? Will this involve Dracut-only
changes or much more?
Thanks.
The full feature described on that page is probably more in the 3-6
month time frame. The work that has been done for archipel will
probably be merged earlier, but no set time frame for that yet either.
The other issue is that there will probably need to be some changes made
on the engine side to support a purely stateless/diskless node. I can't
comment at all on timeframes for that though.
Mike
David
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Burns [mailto:mburns@redhat.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:57 AM
>To: Li, David
>Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
>Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt node in a diskless environment
>
>On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 09:48 -0800, Li, David wrote:
>> Hi, I am totally new to this. But what I am looking for is to run
>> oVirt node on a diskless x86_64 server board. I have to pxeboot and
>> then mount the initramfs as the final root file systems. No disk or
>> NFS is allowed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this possible with the current release?
>>
>
>Currently, no, but it's an important feature that we're hoping to get in the
>next release or 2. Our current high level design is posted on the wiki [1].
>There is also some effort going on by the archipel group to make ovirt-node
>stateless as well [2]. We certainly welcome feedback on the node-
>devel(a)ovirt.org mailing list or directly on the wiki.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike
>
>
>[1] http://ovirt.org/wiki/Node_Stateless
>[2] https://github.com/primalmotion/node
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Users mailing list
>> Users(a)ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
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8:26 p.m.
On 01/17/2012 01:07 PM, Li, David wrote:
Mike,
What is the timeframe we are looking at? In 3 months? Will this
involve Dracut-only changes or much more? Thanks.
If you're willing to assist development of the feature by driving design
or patches, it'll be quicker :) If you care about schedule, then help
us push it along to meet your timelines
Cheers,
Perry
9:24 p.m.
Hmm, interesting.. 3 months is reasonable if we can get a prototype running. Ideally I
will need to fit the images into an embeded space less than 200MB (it's my pxeboot
server).
We are certainly interested in the feature and is willing to be part of it. But where do
we start?
Any suggestions from you guys that I can take back to my team?
- David
________________________________________
From: Perry Myers [pmyers(a)redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:26 AM
To: Li, David
Cc: Mike Burns; users(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt node in a diskless environment
On 01/17/2012 01:07 PM, Li, David wrote:
Mike,
What is the timeframe we are looking at? In 3 months? Will this
involve Dracut-only changes or much more? Thanks.
If you're willing to assist development of the feature by driving design
or patches, it'll be quicker :) If you care about schedule, then help
us push it along to meet your timelines
Cheers,
Perry
10:36 p.m.
On 01/17/2012 02:24 PM, Li, David wrote:
Hmm, interesting.. 3 months is reasonable if we can get a prototype
running. Ideally I will need to fit the images into an embeded space
less than 200MB (it's my pxeboot server).
200MB shouldn't be a problem, the oVirt Node ISO right now is around
150MB iirc. So you should be able to fit kernel/initrd for PXE server
into 200MB
We are certainly interested in the feature and is willing to be part
of it. But where do we start?
Any suggestions from you guys that I can take back to my team?
I think taking a look at what primalmotion has been doing with going
stateless for archipel would be a good place to start, and then seeing
how this could be generalized for use outside of archipel.
Our original thinking on 'stateless oVirt Node' was that we would use:
* some form of {PXE/DHCP/embedded USB stick with minimal config} to get
just enough info to boot the system, get the mgmt network interface
up and communicate to the mgmt server controlling the node
* once you've got that done, the remainder of the configuration can be
applied dynamically by the mgmt server (for example the oVirt Engine
through vdsm)
If you follow the above, this problem actually isn't too hard to solve,
I don't think.
Perry
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