From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 3:49:11 AM Subject: [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client Hi, The focus of our OPW internship program starting in December will be mobile and/or lightweight engine clients -- hopefully integrating the new ovirt.js project.

I see that there are some already existing mobile clients for oVirt. I'm trying to grasp what we have and what the needs are. moVirt: https://github.com/matobet/moVirt (mbetak) This appears to be more of a lightweight webadmin. No console access, but I believe it's planned as part of OPW. (?)

nomad: http://www.ovirt.org/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad and https://github.com/Vizuri/ovirt-nomad Looks dead -- last commit 3 years ago. Anyone know more about this one? That's all I see on the first few pages of google. When I think of a mobile client for oVirt, I think the most useful part would be the user portal -- simple operations for start, stop, and the ability to view the console of vms. moVirt mentions it wants to support some basic management operations, though. I think it would be difficult to do complex management in a mobile client. (I'm biased towards huge screens, though.) I'd like to see an official subproject started that coordinates our mobile efforts. Is this possible? What would it take to start it? What would people like to see in such an app? Greg Sheremeta Red Hat, Inc. Sr. Software Engineer, RHEV Cell: 919-807-1086 gshereme(a)redhat.com _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Yair Zaslavsky <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 3:49:11 AM > Subject: [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client > > Hi, > > The focus of our OPW internship program starting in December will be > mobile and/or lightweight engine clients -- hopefully integrating the > new ovirt.js project. +100 [snip] > > I see that there are some already existing mobile clients for oVirt. > I'm trying to grasp what we have and what the needs are. > > That's all I see on the first few pages of google. > There was also project from Iordanov about spice/oVirt support on android.. See: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-December/018434.html Some days ago it seems he go also support international keyboard layout support: " I finally got some time to back-port the international keyboard layout support from the Android Ovirt client Opaque into the SPICE client aSPICE " I made same preliminary tests at the end of 2013 but I was not able to connect to oVirt... I don't know actually how it went ahead... the Google channel seems stopped since February... Gianluca _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov(a)gmail.com&gt; To: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org Cc: "Sphoorti Joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com&gt; Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:19:58 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client Hey guys, Thanks for remembering about Opaque. For those who are not familiar with the project, it is an oVirt/RHEV graphics console client which supports the SPICE protocol so far. It uses libgovirt to connect to the oVirt/RHEV API. I also created a separate pure SPICE client (called aSPICE) for Android based on libspice. It would be nice if I got more feedback from Red Hat developers, but you guys are probably as busy as I am :). The app is getting attention on Google Play and people are using it successfully for their installations, it seems. I have plans to add the following features to Opaque, time permitting: - Ability to edit default settings, so that people who connect with console.vv file will be able to configure Audio, keyboard layout, etc. - The ability to allocate VMs from a pool. - The ability to control Audio Playback and Recording separately. I don't think Opaque needs to get portal-management functionality. I was contacted by an intern working on movirt (Sphoorti Joglekar, cc-ed), asking whether I would be willing to support a URI Intent scheme that movirt can use to launch aSPICE. I think I already have a pretty well specified URI scheme that may work for the purpose, so we'll see how that goes. I am wondering whether it wouldn't be better to launch aSPICE or Opaque with a console.vv file instead, though. I guess the developers of movirt will have to consider both options. At any rate, Opaque is far from dead. I'm security supporting it, I just don't find a lot of time to work on additional features. I am cc-ing Brian Proffitt, because at one point we discussed setting up Opaque as a sub-project of oVirt. I don't know whether there is any interest for that in Red Hat, or any interest at all in supporting mobile clients for oVirt/RHEV, etc. It would be nice to hear an official stance on the topic. Thanks! iordan On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:17 AM, David Jaša <djasa(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > The app in Google may be half year old but there is a movement in git > [1] and the author recently called for testing or comments on > spice-devel ML. > > David > > [1] > https://github.com/iiordanov/remote-desktop-clients/tree/master/eclipse_p... > > > On Pá, 2014-10-31 at 07:56 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Yair Zaslavsky <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt; >> > To: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org >> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 3:49:11 AM >> > Subject: [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > The focus of our OPW internship program starting in December >> will be >> > mobile and/or lightweight engine clients -- hopefully >> integrating the >> > new ovirt.js project. >> >> +100 >> >> >> [snip] >> >> > >> > I see that there are some already existing mobile clients >> for oVirt. >> > I'm trying to grasp what we have and what the needs are. >> >> > >> > That's all I see on the first few pages of google. >> > >> >> >> There was also project from Iordanov about spice/oVirt support on >> android.. >> See: >> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-December/018434.html >> >> >> Some days ago it seems he go also support international keyboard >> layout support: >> >> " >> I finally got some time to back-port the international keyboard layout >> support from the Android Ovirt client Opaque into the SPICE client >> aSPICE >> " >> >> >> I made same preliminary tests at the end of 2013 but I was not able to >> connect to oVirt... >> I don't know actually how it went ahead... the Google channel seems >> stopped since February... >> >> >> Gianluca >> _______________________________________________ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

=20 > Thank you, > Tomas >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "i iordanov" <iiordanov(a)gmail.com&gt; >> To: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org >> Cc: "Sphoorti Joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com&gt; >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:19:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client >>=20 >> Hey guys, >>=20 >> Thanks for remembering about Opaque. For those who are not familiar >> with the project, it is an oVirt/RHEV graphics console client which >> supports the SPICE protocol so far. It uses libgovirt to connect to >> the oVirt/RHEV API. I also created a separate pure SPICE client >> (called aSPICE) for Android based on libspice. >>=20 >> It would be nice if I got more feedback from Red Hat developers, but >> you guys are probably as busy as I am :). The app is getting attention >> on Google Play and people are using it successfully for their >> installations, it seems. >>=20 >> I have plans to add the following features to Opaque, time permitting: >>=20 >> - Ability to edit default settings, so that people who connect with >> console.vv file will be able to configure Audio, keyboard layout, etc. >> - The ability to allocate VMs from a pool. >> - The ability to control Audio Playback and Recording separately. >>=20 >> I don't think Opaque needs to get portal-management functionality. >>=20 >> I was contacted by an intern working on movirt (Sphoorti Joglekar, >> cc-ed), asking whether I would be willing to support a URI Intent >> scheme that movirt can use to launch aSPICE. I think I already have a >> pretty well specified URI scheme that may work for the purpose, so >> we'll see how that goes. I am wondering whether it wouldn't be better >> to launch aSPICE or Opaque with a console.vv file instead, though. I >> guess the developers of movirt will have to consider both options. >>=20 >> At any rate, Opaque is far from dead. I'm security supporting it, I >> just don't find a lot of time to work on additional features. >>=20 >> I am cc-ing Brian Proffitt, because at one point we discussed setting >> up Opaque as a sub-project of oVirt. I don't know whether there is any >> interest for that in Red Hat, or any interest at all in supporting >> mobile clients for oVirt/RHEV, etc. It would be nice to hear an >> official stance on the topic. =20 (adding Brian properly this time) =20 I think it makes sense to add it together with something=E2=80=A6though m=

more related to SPICE clients. So adding Christophe for his thoughts=E2=

On Jan 5, 2015, at 13:38 , Tomas Jelinek <tjelinek(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >=20 > One more question - does aSPICE support spice proxy? >=20

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From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:03:58 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 3:49:11 AM > Subject: [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client > > Hi, > > The focus of our OPW internship program starting in December will be > mobile and/or lightweight engine clients -- hopefully integrating the > new ovirt.js project. +100 Sorry for the ignorant question - does this mean the technology will be web based or native? (i.e - java on top of android, Swift/Objective-C on top of IOS) > > I see that there are some already existing mobile clients for oVirt. > I'm trying to grasp what we have and what the needs are. > > moVirt: https://github.com/matobet/moVirt (mbetak) > This appears to be more of a lightweight webadmin. No console access, > but I believe it's planned as part of OPW. (?) I spoke with mbetak about this a few months ago. When you speak of console, you mean to actually view the VM using spice? sounds very interesting. If I recall, Alon levy (a former red hatter) worked on some spice implementation for html5 or something like that. Anyway, back in TLV I also had some ideas around that. Do you have some IRC meetings or something that I can join? Cheers, Yair > > nomad: http://www.ovirt.org/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad and > https://github.com/Vizuri/ovirt-nomad > Looks dead -- last commit 3 years ago. > Anyone know more about this one? > > That's all I see on the first few pages of google. > > When I think of a mobile client for oVirt, I think the most useful > part would be the user portal -- simple operations for start, stop, > and the ability to view the console of vms. moVirt mentions it wants > to support some basic management operations, though. I think it would > be difficult to do complex management in a mobile client. (I'm biased > towards huge screens, though.)

> > I'd like to see an official subproject started that coordinates our > mobile efforts. > > Is this possible? What would it take to start it?

> > What would people like to see in such an app? > > Greg Sheremeta > Red Hat, Inc. > Sr. Software Engineer, RHEV > Cell: 919-807-1086 > gshereme(a)redhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:16:33 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] [RFC] oVirt mobile client ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:03:58 AM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt; > > To: "users" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt;, devel(a)ovirt.org > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 3:49:11 AM > > Subject: [ovirt-devel] [RFC] oVirt mobile client > > > > Hi, > > > > The focus of our OPW internship program starting in December will be > > mobile and/or lightweight engine clients -- hopefully integrating the > > new ovirt.js project. > > +100 > > Sorry for the ignorant question - does this mean the technology will be web > based or native? (i.e - java on top of android, Swift/Objective-C on top of > IOS) > > > > > > I see that there are some already existing mobile clients for oVirt. > > I'm trying to grasp what we have and what the needs are. > > > > moVirt: https://github.com/matobet/moVirt (mbetak) > > This appears to be more of a lightweight webadmin. No console access, > > but I believe it's planned as part of OPW. (?) > > I spoke with mbetak about this a few months ago. > When you speak of console, you mean to actually view the VM using spice? > sounds very interesting. > If I recall, Alon levy (a former red hatter) worked on some spice > implementation for html5 or something like that. > > Anyway, back in TLV I also had some ideas around that. Do you have some IRC > meetings or something that I can join? > > Cheers, > Yair > > > > > > nomad: http://www.ovirt.org/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad and > > https://github.com/Vizuri/ovirt-nomad > > Looks dead -- last commit 3 years ago. > > Anyone know more about this one? > > > > That's all I see on the first few pages of google. > > > > When I think of a mobile client for oVirt, I think the most useful > > part would be the user portal -- simple operations for start, stop, > > and the ability to view the console of vms. moVirt mentions it wants > > to support some basic management operations, though. I think it would > > be difficult to do complex management in a mobile client. (I'm biased > > towards huge screens, though.) Sorry, I was very excited about the news, so I forgot to answer the rest. I agree about "user portal" - sounds good to begin with. Another idea I had in the past is to have an app (push-based) that will push events to a special client. We will have a push sever that will get notifications from the event notifier, and this server will push the events to registered clients.

> > > > I'd like to see an official subproject started that coordinates our > > mobile efforts. > > > > Is this possible? What would it take to start it? What do you mean "is that possible"? technically sounds feasible to me (well, we'll need to figure out about the console, but an mgmt app without the console, why not?) ) > > > > What would people like to see in such an app? > > > > Greg Sheremeta > > Red Hat, Inc. > > Sr. Software Engineer, RHEV > > Cell: 919-807-1086 > > gshereme(a)redhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel