Re: [ovirt-users] 3.5 live merge findings and mysteries [was Re: Simple way to activate live merge in FC20 cluster]

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/21/2014 09:53 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
So the official statement is this one at: http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes
Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's merge command will combine the data of one volume into another. Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each operation.
I think we should remove the part above, or at least have some of the developers to better clarify it. The feature in my opinion is very important and crucial for oVirt/RHEV because it is able to almost-fill the gap with VMware, especially in development environments, where having flexibility on snapshots management is very important and could be a starting point to have greater user base familiarize with the product and adopt it.
So these are my findings and all combinations and none of them was able to provide live merge.... Could anyone tell me where I'm failing? Or correct release notes?
1) Environment with All-In-One F20
installing oVirt AIO on F20 automatically gives the virt-preview repo through the ovirt-3.5-dependencies.repo file, but only for libvirt* packages:
the same server is the engine and the hypervisor
[root@tekkaman qemu]# rpm -q libvirt libvirt-1.2.9.1-1.fc20.x86_64
[root@tekkaman qemu]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'true'
but [root@tekkaman qemu]# rpm -q qemu qemu-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64
So that tryng live merge it initially start but you get this in vdsm.log: libvirtError: unsupported configuration: active commit not supported with this QEMU binary
2) Another seaparate environment with a dedicated 3.5 engine f20 engine and 4 test cases tried
a) ovirt node installed and put in a dedicated cluster latest available seems ovirt-node-iso-3.5.0.ovirt35.20140912.el6.iso from 3.5 rc test days
At the end of oVirt Node install and activation in engine: [root@ovnode01 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode01 ~]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt-0.10.2-29.el6_5.12.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-0.10.2-29.el6_5.12.x86_64 libvirt-python-0.10.2-29.el6_5.12.x86_64 qemu-kvm-tools-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.14.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-client-0.10.2-29.el6_5.12.x86_64 qemu-img-rhev-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.14.x86_64
b) f20 + latest updates host installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster virt-preview on host it is not enabled so that libvirt/qemu are not ready
[root@ovnode02 network-scripts]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode02 network-scripts]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt-daemon-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-python-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-config-nwfilter-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 qemu-kvm-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 qemu-common-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-client-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-network-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-nwfilter-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-interface-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-nodedev-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-secret-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 qemu-system-x86-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-kvm-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 qemu-kvm-tools-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 qemu-img-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64
c) CentOS 6.6 host + latest updates installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster
[root@ovnode03 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode03 ~]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt-python-0.10.2-46.el6_6.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev-tools-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.14.x86_64 qemu-img-rhev-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-client-0.10.2-46.el6_6.2.x86_64 libvirt-0.10.2-46.el6_6.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-0.10.2-46.el6_6.2.x86_64
d) CentOS 7.0 host + latest updates installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster
[root@ovnode04 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode04 ~]# rpm -qa qemu* libvirt* qemu-img-rhev-1.5.3-60.el7_0.2.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-nodedev-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-kvm-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 qemu-kvm-tools-rhev-1.5.3-60.el7_0.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-common-rhev-1.5.3-60.el7_0.2.x86_64 libvirt-client-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-nwfilter-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-interface-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-config-nwfilter-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-network-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev-1.5.3-60.el7_0.2.x86_64 libvirt-python-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-secret-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64
Thanks in advance, Gianluca
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was this resolved?
In my opinion it was not resolved and what written into release notes doesn't correspond to features set. See my test cases and eventually describe other test cases where live merge is usable See also other findings about live merge on active layer here: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-November/029450.html Gianluca

Hi, please see below for more details. tl; dr; Live merge works on oVirt-3.5.0 with Fedora 20 hosts that are using qemu and libvirt packages from the virt-preview repo. No other configuration is supported yet. We aim to have support for RHEL7.1 and later and built-in support for Fedora 21. ----- Original Message -----
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Itamar Heim < iheim@redhat.com > wrote:
On 11/21/2014 09:53 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
So the official statement is this one at: http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3. 5_Release_Notes
Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's merge command will combine the data of one volume into another. Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each operation.
I think we should remove the part above, or at least have some of the developers to better clarify it. The feature in my opinion is very important and crucial for oVirt/RHEV because it is able to almost-fill the gap with VMware, especially in development environments, where having flexibility on snapshots management is very important and could be a starting point to have greater user base familiarize with the product and adopt it.
So these are my findings and all combinations and none of them was able to provide live merge.... Could anyone tell me where I'm failing? Or correct release notes?
1) Environment with All-In-One F20
installing oVirt AIO on F20 automatically gives the virt-preview repo through the ovirt-3.5-dependencies.repo file, but only for libvirt* packages:
the same server is the engine and the hypervisor
[root@tekkaman qemu]# rpm -q libvirt libvirt-1.2.9.1-1.fc20.x86_64
[root@tekkaman qemu]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'true'
but [root@tekkaman qemu]# rpm -q qemu qemu-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64
So that tryng live merge it initially start but you get this in vdsm.log: libvirtError: unsupported configuration: active commit not supported with this QEMU binary
This is expected behavior. You also need to install the qemu packages from virt-preview to get the feature.
2) Another seaparate environment with a dedicated 3.5 engine f20 engine and 4 test cases tried
a) ovirt node installed and put in a dedicated cluster latest available seems ovirt-node-iso-3.5.0.ovirt35. 20140912.el6.iso from 3.5 rc test days
At the end of oVirt Node install and activation in engine: [root@ovnode01 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode01 ~]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt- 0.10.2-29 .el6_5.12.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock- 0.10.2-29 .el6_5. 12.x86_64 libvirt-python- 0.10.2-29 .el6_5.12.x86_ 64 qemu-kvm-tools- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_ 64 qemu-kvm-rhev- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-client- 0.10.2-29 .el6_5.12.x86_ 64 qemu-img-rhev- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_64
Live merge is not supported on EL6, period. It was simply not possible to backport all of the features into those versions of qemu and libvirt.
b) f20 + latest updates host installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster virt-preview on host it is not enabled so that libvirt/qemu are not ready
[root@ovnode02 network-scripts]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode02 network-scripts]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt-daemon-1.1.3.6-2.fc20. x86_64 libvirt-python-1.1.3.6-2.fc20. x86_64 libvirt-daemon-config- nwfilter-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 qemu-kvm-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 qemu-common-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_ 64 libvirt-client-1.1.3.6-2.fc20. x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-network- 1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver- nwfilter-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver- interface-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_ 64 libvirt-daemon-driver-nodedev- 1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-secret- 1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 qemu-system-x86-1.6.2-10.fc20. x86_64 libvirt-daemon-kvm-1.1.3.6-2. fc20.x86_64 qemu-kvm-tools-1.6.2-10.fc20. x86_64 qemu-img-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu-1. 1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-storage- 1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-1.1.3.6- 2.fc20.x86_64
Great, this is working as expected.
c) CentOS 6.6 host + latest updates installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster
[root@ovnode03 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode03 ~]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt-python- 0.10.2-46 .el6_6.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev-tools- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14. x86_64 qemu-img-rhev- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-client- 0.10.2-46 .el6_6.2.x86_64 libvirt- 0.10.2-46 .el6_6.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock- 0.10.2-46 .el6_6.2. x86_64
Also expected due to specific lack of support for el6.
d) CentOS 7.0 host + latest updates installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster
[root@ovnode04 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode04 ~]# rpm -qa qemu* libvirt* qemu-img-rhev-1.5.3-60.el7_0. 2.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-1.1.1-29.el7_0. 3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-storage- 1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-nodedev- 1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-kvm-1.1.1-29. el7_0.3.x86_64 qemu-kvm-tools-rhev-1.5.3-60. el7_0.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-common-rhev-1.5.3-60. el7_0.2.x86_64 libvirt-client-1.1.1-29.el7_0. 3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver- nwfilter-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_ 64 libvirt-daemon-driver- interface-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3. x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-1.1.1-29. el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-config- nwfilter-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_ 64 libvirt-daemon-driver-network- 1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev-1.5.3-60.el7_0. 2.x86_64 libvirt-python-1.1.1-29.el7_0. 3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-secret- 1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu-1. 1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64
el7 will not be supported until 7.1 is released.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi, please see below for more details.
tl; dr; Live merge works on oVirt-3.5.0 with Fedora 20 hosts that are using qemu and libvirt packages from the virt-preview repo. No other configuration is supported yet. We aim to have support for RHEL7.1 and later and built-in support for Fedora 21.
----- Original Message -----
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Itamar Heim < iheim@redhat.com > wrote:
On 11/21/2014 09:53 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
So the official statement is this one at: http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3. 5_Release_Notes
Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's merge command will combine the data of one volume into another. Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each operation.
I think we should remove the part above, or at least have some of the developers to better clarify it. The feature in my opinion is very important and crucial for oVirt/RHEV because it is able to almost-fill the gap with VMware, especially in development environments, where having flexibility on snapshots management is very important and could be a starting point to have greater user base familiarize with the product and adopt it.
So these are my findings and all combinations and none of them was able to provide live merge.... Could anyone tell me where I'm failing? Or correct release notes?
1) Environment with All-In-One F20
installing oVirt AIO on F20 automatically gives the virt-preview repo through the ovirt-3.5-dependencies.repo file, but only for libvirt* packages:
the same server is the engine and the hypervisor
[root@tekkaman qemu]# rpm -q libvirt libvirt-1.2.9.1-1.fc20.x86_64
[root@tekkaman qemu]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'true'
but [root@tekkaman qemu]# rpm -q qemu qemu-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64
So that tryng live merge it initially start but you get this in vdsm.log: libvirtError: unsupported configuration: active commit not supported with this QEMU binary
This is expected behavior. You also need to install the qemu packages from virt-preview to get the feature.
2) Another seaparate environment with a dedicated 3.5 engine f20 engine and 4 test cases tried
a) ovirt node installed and put in a dedicated cluster latest available seems ovirt-node-iso-3.5.0.ovirt35. 20140912.el6.iso from 3.5 rc test days
At the end of oVirt Node install and activation in engine: [root@ovnode01 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode01 ~]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt- 0.10.2-29 .el6_5.12.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock- 0.10.2-29 .el6_5. 12.x86_64 libvirt-python- 0.10.2-29 .el6_5.12.x86_ 64 qemu-kvm-tools- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_ 64 qemu-kvm-rhev- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-client- 0.10.2-29 .el6_5.12.x86_ 64 qemu-img-rhev- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_64
Live merge is not supported on EL6, period. It was simply not possible to backport all of the features into those versions of qemu and libvirt.
b) f20 + latest updates host installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster virt-preview on host it is not enabled so that libvirt/qemu are not ready
[root@ovnode02 network-scripts]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i
merge
liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode02 network-scripts]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt-daemon-1.1.3.6-2.fc20. x86_64 libvirt-python-1.1.3.6-2.fc20. x86_64 libvirt-daemon-config- nwfilter-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 qemu-kvm-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 qemu-common-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_ 64 libvirt-client-1.1.3.6-2.fc20. x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-network- 1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver- nwfilter-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver- interface-1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_ 64 libvirt-daemon-driver-nodedev- 1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-secret- 1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 qemu-system-x86-1.6.2-10.fc20. x86_64 libvirt-daemon-kvm-1.1.3.6-2. fc20.x86_64 qemu-kvm-tools-1.6.2-10.fc20. x86_64 qemu-img-1.6.2-10.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu-1. 1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-storage- 1.1.3.6-2.fc20.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-1.1.3.6- 2.fc20.x86_64
Great, this is working as expected.
c) CentOS 6.6 host + latest updates installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster
[root@ovnode03 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode03 ~]# rpm -qa libvirt* qemu* libvirt-python- 0.10.2-46 .el6_6.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev-tools- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14. x86_64 qemu-img-rhev- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-client- 0.10.2-46 .el6_6.2.x86_64 libvirt- 0.10.2-46 .el6_6.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev- 0.12.1.2-2.415 .el6_5.14.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock- 0.10.2-46 .el6_6.2. x86_64
Also expected due to specific lack of support for el6.
d) CentOS 7.0 host + latest updates installed as OS and then installed from webadmin in another cluster
[root@ovnode04 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps | grep -i merge liveMerge = 'false'
[root@ovnode04 ~]# rpm -qa qemu* libvirt* qemu-img-rhev-1.5.3-60.el7_0. 2.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-1.1.1-29.el7_0. 3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-storage- 1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-nodedev- 1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-kvm-1.1.1-29. el7_0.3.x86_64 qemu-kvm-tools-rhev-1.5.3-60. el7_0.2.x86_64 qemu-kvm-common-rhev-1.5.3-60. el7_0.2.x86_64 libvirt-client-1.1.1-29.el7_0. 3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver- nwfilter-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_ 64 libvirt-daemon-driver- interface-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3. x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-1.1.1-29. el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-config- nwfilter-1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_ 64 libvirt-daemon-driver-network- 1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 qemu-kvm-rhev-1.5.3-60.el7_0. 2.x86_64 libvirt-python-1.1.1-29.el7_0. 3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-secret- 1.1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu-1. 1.1-29.el7_0.3.x86_64
el7 will not be supported until 7.1 is released.
Understand me, please. My note was about Release Notes page misleading in respect with features' set. At Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's merge command will combine the data of one volume into another. Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each operation.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi, please see below for more details.
tl; dr; Live merge works on oVirt-3.5.0 with Fedora 20 hosts that are using qemu and libvirt packages from the virt-preview repo. No other configuration is supported yet. We aim to have support for RHEL7.1 and later and built-in support for Fedora 21.
Sorry... pressed return too quick.. Understand me, please. My note was about Release Notes page misleading in respect with features' set and newcomers... but also frequent users too At http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes#Live_Merge ones reads: " Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's merge command will combine the data of one volume into another. Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each operation. " I think you have to mention that it is a restricted use case for now... and specify that it works only for Fedora 20 and in that case you have to manually modify the repo definition to install the qemu packages from virt-preview to get the feature. Also at http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes#Install_.2F_Upgrade_from_Previo... you had better to specify that when you use RHEL/CentOS hosts you don't get live merge at all. Just my opinion to limit more and more times the same questions on the list due to not enough clarity Gianluca

+1 This has occured multiple times for some releases, that features get not communicated correctly. On 15/12/14 08:33, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
I think you have to mention that it is a restricted use case for now... and specify that it works only for Fedora 20 and in that case you have to manually modify the repo definition to install the qemu packages from virt-preview to get the feature.
Also at http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes#Install_.2F_Upgrade_from_Previo... you had better to specify that when you use RHEL/CentOS hosts you don't get live merge at all.
Just my opinion to limit more and more times the same questions on the list due to not enough clarity
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 15.12.2014 08:33, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi, please see below for more details.
tl; dr; Live merge works on oVirt-3.5.0 with Fedora 20 hosts that are using qemu and libvirt packages from the virt-preview repo. No other configuration is supported yet. We aim to have support for RHEL7.1 and later and built-in support for Fedora 21.
Sorry... pressed return too quick..
Understand me, please. My note was about Release Notes page misleading in respect with features' set and newcomers... but also frequent users too
At http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes#Live_Merge ones reads:
" Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's merge command will combine the data of one volume into another. Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each operation. "
I think you have to mention that it is a restricted use case for now... and specify that it works only for Fedora 20 and in that case you have to manually modify the repo definition to install the qemu packages from virt-preview to get the feature.
This still is not fixed! I can already see the bugreports coming in, claiming live merge does not work, because the release notes are very misleading! Did nobody got the time to fix this? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQGcBAEBAgAGBQJUqUDBAAoJEAq0kGAWDrqlMJAL/2Uc4bfFsWczRoce067rMED1 H5zd08MzZ7d2rXViEnUpuQnmE+SJSjsbtZp0ueTE4rgoqGGHP3pauu6YK0JaSNGw 3DpP++Yjqrsn5gCzqhwl3LqN+IQMowZ2ljREcae5ltajzf/SIDrDsdWoiHO4ZQcL RXXTAh4v5cpA0P34fIJZT4KLcJUDjWm7SeBAnY0XAAlEnGZweH/4juU2asq00pRE CnReayZwhuo5+et9FUBc5CBj9TAjcgKTruO3gAM5IMBPIAi1yBVpGMUfU/x4r/o6 6aNvQA9oolWWbCH63Jlz6c+HF/KGdlWEVz+zXaLojsNyyKcOy+UceQiL0ZGnzOfB Klcwfjb88P6ElDb8tzALjuqJXNkyEAR/0xcoAzTyeaKCi5XlIxbqrZjEyrjdSE3W d6GYI7A7G0MbpUtbCaBvy/7fCT1YdlRK7dmtxVMinV8mxDJslSu1jg5mZ/AR/Wd4 TD/TgUY2FRvdXrQpdBpKqKS6UR+s2sfJ+6KnanSGEQ== =uzHE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Sven Kieske <svenkieske@gmail.com> wrote:
Understand me, please. My note was about Release Notes page misleading in respect with features' set and newcomers... but also frequent users too
At http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes#Live_Merge ones reads:
" Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's merge command will combine the data of one volume into another. Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each operation. "
I think you have to mention that it is a restricted use case for now... and specify that it works only for Fedora 20 and in that case you have to manually modify the repo definition to install the qemu packages from virt-preview to get the feature.
This still is not fixed!
I can already see the bugreports coming in, claiming live merge does not work, because the release notes are very misleading!
Did nobody got the time to fix this?
I'm more than available to change it if my edit rights allow it. But at the end I didn't see any clear answer from developers and/or infra maintainers... I think it is a crucial page, so I'd prefer one of them to do it or explicitly answering here that we are right and we can go change it... Gianluca

On 04/01/15 16:34 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Sven Kieske <svenkieske@gmail.com> wrote:
Understand me, please. My note was about Release Notes page misleading in respect with features' set and newcomers... but also frequent users too
At http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes#Live_Merge ones reads:
" Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's merge command will combine the data of one volume into another. Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each operation. "
I think you have to mention that it is a restricted use case for now... and specify that it works only for Fedora 20 and in that case you have to manually modify the repo definition to install the qemu packages from virt-preview to get the feature.
This still is not fixed!
I can already see the bugreports coming in, claiming live merge does not work, because the release notes are very misleading!
Did nobody got the time to fix this?
I'm more than available to change it if my edit rights allow it. But at the end I didn't see any clear answer from developers and/or infra maintainers... I think it is a crucial page, so I'd prefer one of them to do it or explicitly answering here that we are right and we can go change it...
I'll add a disclaimer to the page. -- Adam Litke
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