non-ovirt node as gluster node

Hi guys, I have 3 machines that I'd like to test oVirt/gluster on. The idea is that I want two of them to be oVirt nodes and the third to run the oVirt engine. They all have 8 hdd's, and I'd like to use these in gluster for storing the vm images. (on all 3 machines) So, machine1 is a gluster server with oVirt engine installed machine2 is a gluster server and oVirt node machine3 is a gluster server and oVirt node Is this doable? TIA, /tony -- Tony Albers Systems Architect Systems Director, National Cultural Heritage Cluster Royal Danish Library, Victor Albecks Vej 1, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark. Tel: +45 2566 2383 / +45 8946 2316

On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 12:36 +0000, Tony Brian Albers wrote:
Hi guys,
I have 3 machines that I'd like to test oVirt/gluster on.
The idea is that I want two of them to be oVirt nodes and the third to run the oVirt engine.
They all have 8 hdd's, and I'd like to use these in gluster for storing the vm images. (on all 3 machines)
So, machine1 is a gluster server with oVirt engine installed machine2 is a gluster server and oVirt node machine3 is a gluster server and oVirt node
Is this doable?
Usually you´d want to deploy oVirt/Gluster "hyperconverged"[*] with three machines. Hyperconverged means that the servers are deployed both for compute and storage at the same time, and the engine is a VM in it´s own cluster (it doesn´t have to be a separate server). Or is this something you really don´t want? If so, why? [*]: https://ovirt.org/documentation/gluster-hyperconverged/Gluster_Hyperconverge... /K
TIA,
/tony
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On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 13:47 +0100, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 12:36 +0000, Tony Brian Albers wrote:
Hi guys,
I have 3 machines that I'd like to test oVirt/gluster on.
The idea is that I want two of them to be oVirt nodes and the third to run the oVirt engine.
They all have 8 hdd's, and I'd like to use these in gluster for storing the vm images. (on all 3 machines)
So, machine1 is a gluster server with oVirt engine installed machine2 is a gluster server and oVirt node machine3 is a gluster server and oVirt node
Is this doable?
Usually you´d want to deploy oVirt/Gluster "hyperconverged"[*] with three machines. Hyperconverged means that the servers are deployed both for compute and storage at the same time, and the engine is a VM in it´s own cluster (it doesn´t have to be a separate server).
Or is this something you really don´t want? If so, why?
[*]:
https://ovirt.org/documentation/gluster-hyperconverged/Gluster_Hyperc onverged_Guide/
/K
Machine1 only has a very limited amount of RAM, so it's not usable as a node. And I'd like to keep the engine outside, at least for now. /tony -- -- Tony Albers Systems Architect Systems Director, National Cultural Heritage Cluster Royal Danish Library, Victor Albecks Vej 1, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark. Tel: +45 2566 2383 / +45 8946 2316

On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 13:21 +0000, Tony Brian Albers wrote:
On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 13:47 +0100, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 12:36 +0000, Tony Brian Albers wrote:
Hi guys,
I have 3 machines that I'd like to test oVirt/gluster on.
The idea is that I want two of them to be oVirt nodes and the third to run the oVirt engine.
They all have 8 hdd's, and I'd like to use these in gluster for storing the vm images. (on all 3 machines)
So, machine1 is a gluster server with oVirt engine installed machine2 is a gluster server and oVirt node machine3 is a gluster server and oVirt node
Is this doable?
Usually you´d want to deploy oVirt/Gluster "hyperconverged"[*] with three machines. Hyperconverged means that the servers are deployed both for compute and storage at the same time, and the engine is a VM in it´s own cluster (it doesn´t have to be a separate server).
Or is this something you really don´t want? If so, why?
[*]:
https://ovirt.org/documentation/gluster-hyperconverged/Gluster_Hyperc
onverged_Guide/
/K
Machine1 only has a very limited amount of RAM, so it's not usable as a node.
And I'd like to keep the engine outside, at least for now.
OK, no that is not supported. I mean, it was a long time ago but not any more. I wouldn´t worry about the engine being a VM, it´s acutally very stable, net positive compared to having it physical, in my opinion. And more available compared to having hardware outage. What I would do is set it up as three node hyperconverged and then just remove "Machine1" from the "Hosts" interface, so it´s not used for compute. /K
/tony
-- -- Tony Albers Systems Architect Systems Director, National Cultural Heritage Cluster Royal Danish Library, Victor Albecks Vej 1, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark. Tel: +45 2566 2383 / +45 8946 2316

Tony, is there a reason why you wouldn't just do a three more hyper converged setup with self hosted engine? This is the best option for a three server setup imo On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, 8:37 AM Tony Brian Albers <tba@kb.dk wrote:
Hi guys,
I have 3 machines that I'd like to test oVirt/gluster on.
The idea is that I want two of them to be oVirt nodes and the third to run the oVirt engine.
They all have 8 hdd's, and I'd like to use these in gluster for storing the vm images. (on all 3 machines)
So, machine1 is a gluster server with oVirt engine installed machine2 is a gluster server and oVirt node machine3 is a gluster server and oVirt node
Is this doable?
TIA,
/tony
-- Tony Albers Systems Architect Systems Director, National Cultural Heritage Cluster Royal Danish Library, Victor Albecks Vej 1, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark. Tel: +45 2566 2383 / +45 8946 2316 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/UZ4ZGJYZGIFBJE...

Quick question on this: is there a solution/procedure to get from a standard installation to a hyper converged one ? Like if I have 3 servers with local-storage and one external engine managing all of them; is there a step-by-step procedure to move to hyper converged ? Simon
On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Jayme <jaymef@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony, is there a reason why you wouldn't just do a three more hyper converged setup with self hosted engine? This is the best option for a three server setup imo
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, 8:37 AM Tony Brian Albers <tba@kb.dk <mailto:tba@kb.dk> wrote: Hi guys,
I have 3 machines that I'd like to test oVirt/gluster on.
The idea is that I want two of them to be oVirt nodes and the third to run the oVirt engine.
They all have 8 hdd's, and I'd like to use these in gluster for storing the vm images. (on all 3 machines)
So, machine1 is a gluster server with oVirt engine installed machine2 is a gluster server and oVirt node machine3 is a gluster server and oVirt node
Is this doable?
TIA,
/tony
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Il giorno mar 6 nov 2018 alle ore 17:27 Simon Coter <simon.coter@oracle.com> ha scritto:
Quick question on this:
is there a solution/procedure to get from a standard installation to a hyper converged one ? Like if I have 3 servers with local-storage and one external engine managing all of them; is there a step-by-step procedure to move to hyper converged ?
Adding Sahina
Simon
On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Jayme <jaymef@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony, is there a reason why you wouldn't just do a three more hyper converged setup with self hosted engine? This is the best option for a three server setup imo
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, 8:37 AM Tony Brian Albers <tba@kb.dk wrote:
Hi guys,
I have 3 machines that I'd like to test oVirt/gluster on.
The idea is that I want two of them to be oVirt nodes and the third to run the oVirt engine.
They all have 8 hdd's, and I'd like to use these in gluster for storing the vm images. (on all 3 machines)
So, machine1 is a gluster server with oVirt engine installed machine2 is a gluster server and oVirt node machine3 is a gluster server and oVirt node
Is this doable?
TIA,
/tony
-- Tony Albers Systems Architect Systems Director, National Cultural Heritage Cluster Royal Danish Library, Victor Albecks Vej 1, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark. Tel: +45 2566 2383 / +45 8946 2316 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/UZ4ZGJYZGIFBJE...
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 1:39 PM Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Il giorno mar 6 nov 2018 alle ore 17:27 Simon Coter < simon.coter@oracle.com> ha scritto:
Quick question on this:
is there a solution/procedure to get from a standard installation to a hyper converged one ? Like if I have 3 servers with local-storage and one external engine managing all of them; is there a step-by-step procedure to move to hyper converged ?
You can convert the 3 servers to run both gluster and compute by enabling gluster service on cluster and reinstalling the hosts one at a time (to ensure the gluster packages are installed and gluster is peer probed) However, I don't know if there's a way to move the external engine to hosted engine in this setup.
Adding Sahina
Simon
On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Jayme <jaymef@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony, is there a reason why you wouldn't just do a three more hyper converged setup with self hosted engine? This is the best option for a three server setup imo
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, 8:37 AM Tony Brian Albers <tba@kb.dk wrote:
Hi guys,
I have 3 machines that I'd like to test oVirt/gluster on.
The idea is that I want two of them to be oVirt nodes and the third to run the oVirt engine.
They all have 8 hdd's, and I'd like to use these in gluster for storing the vm images. (on all 3 machines)
So, machine1 is a gluster server with oVirt engine installed machine2 is a gluster server and oVirt node machine3 is a gluster server and oVirt node
Is this doable?
TIA,
/tony
-- Tony Albers Systems Architect Systems Director, National Cultural Heritage Cluster Royal Danish Library, Victor Albecks Vej 1, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark. Tel: +45 2566 2383 / +45 8946 2316 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/UZ4ZGJYZGIFBJE...
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