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[20:42] <sonicrose> is anybody out there using a good RAM+SSD caching syste=
m ahead of gluster storage?
[20:42] <sonicrose> sorry if that came through twice
[20:44] <sonicrose> im thinking about making the SSD one giant swap file th=
en creating a very large ramdisk in virtual memory and using that as a bloc=
k level cache for parts and pieces of virtual machine disk images
[20:44] <sonicrose> then i think the memory managers would inherently play =
the role of storage tiering ie: keeping the hottest data in memory and the =
coldest data on swap
[20:45] <sonicrose> everything i have seen today has been setup as "consu=
mer" =3D=3D=3D> network =3D=3D=3D=3D> SSD cache =3D=3D=3D=3D> real disks
[20:45] <sonicrose> but i'd like to actually do "consumer"
=3D=3D=3D> RAM+S=
SD cache =3D=3D=3D> network =3D=3D=3D> real disks
[20:46] <sonicrose> i realize doing a virtual memory disk means the cache w=
ill be cleared on every reboot, and I'm ok with that
[20:47] <sonicrose> i know this can be done with NFS and cachefilesd(fscach=
e), but how could something be integrated into the native gluster clients?
[20:47] <sonicrose> i'd prefer not to have to access gluster via NFS
[20:49] <sonicrose> any feedback from this room is greatly appreciated, get=
ting someone started to build managed HA cloud hosting
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crose> is anybody out there using a good RAM+SSD caching system ahea=
d of gluster storage?<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
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</span><span
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crose> sorry if that came through
twice<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
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</span><span
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;sans-serif";color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><soni=
crose> im thinking about making the SSD one giant swap file then creatin=
g a very large ramdisk in virtual memory and using that as a
block level cache for parts and pieces of virtual machine disk images<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
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erif";color:gray;background:white;mso-highlight:white">[20:44]
</span><span
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","=
;sans-serif";color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><soni=
crose> then i think the memory managers would inherently play the role o=
f storage tiering ie: keeping the hottest data in memory and
the coldest data on swap<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"margin-left:10.0pt;text-indent:-10.0pt;text=
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</span><span
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","=
;sans-serif";color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><soni=
crose> everything i have seen today has been setup as
"=
consumer" =3D=3D=3D> network =3D=3D=3D=3D> SSD
cache=
=3D=3D=3D=3D> real disks<o:p></o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
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;sans-serif";color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><soni=
crose> but i'd like to actually do "consumer"
=3D=3D=3D> RA=
M+SSD cache =3D=3D=3D> network =3D=3D=3D> real
disks<o:p></=
o:p></span></p <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
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</span><span
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","=
;sans-serif";color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><soni=
crose> i realize doing a virtual memory disk means the cache will be cle=
ared on every reboot, and I'm ok with
that<o:p></o:p></span></p <p
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</span><span
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;sans-serif";color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><soni=
crose> i know this can be done with NFS and cachefilesd(fscache), but ho=
w could something be integrated into the native gluster clients?<o:p></o:p>=
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</span><span
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","=
;sans-serif";color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><soni=
crose> i'd prefer not to have to access gluster via
NFS<o:p></o:p></span=
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</span><span
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;sans-serif";color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><soni=
crose> any feedback from this room is greatly appreciated, getting someo=
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Stick your bricks on ZFS and let it do it for you. Works well, although =
I haven=92t done much benchmarking of it. My test setup is described in =
the thread under [Users] Creation of preallocated disk with Gluster =
replication. I=92ve seen some blog posts here and there about gluster on =
ZFS for this reason too.
-Darrell
On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Russell Purinton <russ(a)sonicbx.com> wrote:
[20:42] <sonicrose> is anybody out there using a good RAM+SSD
caching =
system ahead of gluster storage?
[20:42] <sonicrose> sorry if that came through twice
[20:44] <sonicrose> im thinking about making the SSD one giant swap =
file
then creating a very large ramdisk in virtual memory and using that =
as a block level cache for parts and pieces of virtual machine disk =
images
[20:44] <sonicrose> then i think the memory managers would
inherently =
play the role of storage tiering ie: keeping the hottest data in memory
=
and the coldest data on swap
[20:45] <sonicrose> everything i have seen today has been setup
as =
"consumer" =3D=3D=3D> network =3D=3D=3D=3D> SSD cache
=3D=3D=3D=3D> =
real disks
[20:45] <sonicrose> but i'd like to actually do
"consumer" =3D=3D=3D> =
RAM+SSD cache =3D=3D=3D> network
=3D=3D=3D> real disks
[20:46] <sonicrose> i realize doing a virtual memory disk means
the =
cache will be cleared on every reboot, and I'm ok with that
[20:47] <sonicrose> i know this can be done with NFS and =
cachefilesd(fscache), but how could something be integrated into the =
native gluster clients?
[20:47] <sonicrose> i'd prefer not to have to access
gluster via NFS
[20:49] <sonicrose> any feedback from this room is greatly =
appreciated,
getting someone started to build managed HA cloud hosting
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your bricks on ZFS and let it do it for you. Works well, although I =
haven=92t done much benchmarking of it. My test setup is described in =
the thread under [Users] Creation of preallocated disk with Gluster =
replication. I=92ve seen some blog posts here and there about gluster on =
ZFS for this reason =
too.<div><br></div><div> -Darrell<br><div><br><div><div>On
Jan 7, =
2014, at 9:56 PM, Russell Purinton <<a =
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=
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=
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</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif&=
quot;;color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><sonicrose>
=
im thinking about making the SSD one giant swap file then creating a =
very large ramdisk in virtual memory and using that as a
block level cache for parts and pieces of virtual machine disk =
images<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
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<span =
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</span><span =
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quot;;color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><sonicrose>
=
then i think the memory managers would inherently play the role of =
storage tiering ie: keeping the hottest data in memory and
the coldest data on swap<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
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<span =
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</span><span =
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quot;;color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><sonicrose>
=
everything i have seen today has been setup as =
"consumer" =3D=3D=3D> network =3D=3D=3D=3D>
SSD cache =
=3D=3D=3D=3D> real disks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
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<span =
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</span><span =
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quot;;color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><sonicrose>
=
but i'd like to actually do "consumer" =3D=3D=3D> RAM+SSD cache =
=3D=3D=3D> network =3D=3D=3D> real =
disks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
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<span =
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</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif&=
quot;;color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><sonicrose>
=
i realize doing a virtual memory disk means the cache will be cleared on =
every reboot, and I'm ok with that<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
=
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<span =
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</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif&=
quot;;color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><sonicrose>
=
i know this can be done with NFS and cachefilesd(fscache), but how could =
something be integrated into the native gluster =
clients?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"
=
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=
i'd prefer not to have to access gluster via
NFS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif&=
quot;;color:navy;background:white;mso-highlight:white"><sonicrose>
=
any feedback from this room is greatly appreciated, getting someone =
started to build managed HA cloud hosting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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