[Users] recommandations for saving backing up ovirt

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080409070709050803070307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I 'd like to receive any usefull advices from the community about good practice of backing up ovirt with the restraint of zero down time. This involves : * saving vms without shutting down (Restoring them can be done with a halt). Is live snapshot enough for this? Is lvm or san snapshot recommended? * saving the postgres database (or only some of main tables). Can we do it without stopping engine and the risk of a data corruption? Is there a howto? Thank you for your help. -- Nathanaël Blanchet Supervision réseau Pôle exploitation et maintenance Département des systèmes d'information 227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala 34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 Tél. 33 (0)4 67 54 84 55 Fax 33 (0)4 67 54 84 14 blanchet@abes.fr --------------080409070709050803070307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font size="-1">Hi all,<br> <br> I 'd like to receive any usefull advices from the community about good practice of backing up ovirt with the restraint of zero down time.<br> This involves :<br> </font> <ul> <li><font size="-1">saving vms without shutting down (Restoring them can be done with a halt). Is live snapshot enough for this? Is lvm or san snapshot recommended?<br> </font></li> <li><font size="-1">saving the postgres database (or only some of main tables). Can we do it without stopping engine and the risk of a data corruption? Is there a howto?</font></li> </ul> <p><font size="-1">Thank you for your help.</font><br> </p> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Nathanaël Blanchet Supervision réseau Pôle exploitation et maintenance Département des systèmes d'information 227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala 34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 Tél. 33 (0)4 67 54 84 55 Fax 33 (0)4 67 54 84 14 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:blanchet@abes.fr">blanchet@abes.fr</a> </pre> </body> </html> --------------080409070709050803070307--

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From: "Nathanaël Blanchet" <blanchet@abes.fr> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 5:05:01 PM Subject: [Users] recommandations for saving backing up ovirt
Hi all,
I 'd like to receive any usefull advices from the community about good practice of backing up ovirt with the restraint of zero down time. This involves :
* saving vms without shutting down (Restoring them can be done with a halt). Is live snapshot enough for this? Is lvm or san snapshot recommended?
See http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup_API
* saving the postgres database (or only some of main tables). Can we do it without stopping engine and the risk of a data corruption? Is there a howto?
For 3.3 you have share/ovirt-engine/bin/engine-backup.sh for usage please run it with --help You may do it without stopping the engine
Thank you for your help. -- Nathanaël Blanchet
Supervision réseau Pôle exploitation et maintenance Département des systèmes d'information 227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala 34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 Tél. 33 (0)4 67 54 84 55 Fax 33 (0)4 67 54 84 14 blanchet@abes.fr
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On 12/24/2013 12:00 PM, Eli Mesika wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathanaël Blanchet" <blanchet@abes.fr> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 5:05:01 PM Subject: [Users] recommandations for saving backing up ovirt
Hi all,
I 'd like to receive any usefull advices from the community about good practice of backing up ovirt with the restraint of zero down time. This involves :
* saving vms without shutting down (Restoring them can be done with a halt). Is live snapshot enough for this? Is lvm or san snapshot recommended?
using storage side snapshot could be interesting as well. ayal - thoughts?
* saving the postgres database (or only some of main tables). Can we do it without stopping engine and the risk of a data corruption? Is there a howto?
For 3.3 you have share/ovirt-engine/bin/engine-backup.sh for usage please run it with --help You may do it without stopping the engine
Thank you for your help. -- Nathanaël Blanchet
Supervision réseau Pôle exploitation et maintenance Département des systèmes d'information 227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala 34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 Tél. 33 (0)4 67 54 84 55 Fax 33 (0)4 67 54 84 14 blanchet@abes.fr
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----- Original Message -----
Hi all,
I 'd like to receive any usefull advices from the community about good practice of backing up ovirt with the restraint of zero down time. This involves :
* saving vms without shutting down (Restoring them can be done with a halt). Is live snapshot enough for this? Is lvm or san snapshot recommended?
live snapshot gives you crash consistent points in time to return to, however, if you want a 'backup' which is stored externally and can then be restored in a different configuration etc then you'd need to utilize the backup API (live snapshot + attach the snap to a virtual appliance and then back it up). live snapshots also integrate with the qemu guest agent so if you've deployed this then you can get better consistency (file systems would be quiesced on linux guests and on windows guests this should cause VSS to quiesce your apps as well). If your storage supports snapshots and your VMs contain a single disk (direct lun) then you can snapshot the lun on the storage side and again get crash consistency. If you could get this to work for you then performance wise this is probably the best option. If your backup solution is integrated with your storage then even better.
* saving the postgres database (or only some of main tables). Can we do it without stopping engine and the risk of a data corruption? Is there a howto?
Thank you for your help. -- Nathanaël Blanchet
Supervision réseau Pôle exploitation et maintenance Département des systèmes d'information 227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala 34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 Tél. 33 (0)4 67 54 84 55 Fax 33 (0)4 67 54 84 14 blanchet@abes.fr
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Ayal Baron
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Eli Mesika
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Itamar Heim
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Nathanaël Blanchet