Hosted engine vs. hypervisor hosts naming on hyperconverged setup

Hi all, I have a hyperconverged setup where I have a hosted engine that runs on one of three hosts, which are named “ovirt-node-[01,02,03]” — [root@ovirt-node-01 ~]# hosted-engine --vm-status | grep -e "Hostname" -e "Engine" Hostname : ovirt-node-01 Engine status : {"health": "good", "vm": "up", "detail": "up"} Hostname : ovirt-node-02 Engine status : {"reason": "vm not running on this host", "health": "bad", "vm": "down", "detail": "unknown"} Hostname : ovirt-node-03 Engine status : {"reason": "vm not running on this host", "health": "bad", "vm": "down", "detail": "unknown”} When I deployed the hosted engine, I gave it a separate hostname/IP, as I expected it would need it (hostname = “ovirt-engine-01”) However, when I look at the hosts in the oVirt web admin screen, I see that the first host has the name “ovirt-engine-01” whereas it has the hostname of “ovirt-node-01” I also notice that even though the 1st host is showing the number of VM’s running as “1”, when I click on the “VMs” node, there are no VMs showing. Not sure of what “should be”, but, would expect that the first host would have a name equal to its DNS hostname (like the other two do), and that in VMs I would see the engine VM. But is that not how a hosted engine setup works? And if not, if the engine VM migrates over to another host, will that host gain the name "“ovirt-engine-01”? I ask this now because I want to set up a storage domain on these hosts using GlusterFS, and I have to select a host to base the connection on. In the “Use Host” dropbox, I currently see the values: ovirt-node-03 ovirt-node-02 ovirt-engine-01 I would expect that the last entry would be for “ovirt-host-01”, not “ovirt-engine-01”… I don’t want to set up the storage domain until I figure this out, so as to prevent potential breakage... Thanks, Will

I meant “ovirt-node-01” below, not “ovirt-host-01”… so the sentence should have read: ‘I would expect that the last entry would be for “ovirt-node-01”, not “ovirt-engine-01”…’ Sorry for any confusion...
On Dec 26, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com> wrote:
I would expect that the last entry would be for “ovirt-host-01”, not “ovirt-engine-01”…

On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have a hyperconverged setup where I have a hosted engine that runs on one of three hosts, which are named “ovirt-node-[01,02,03]” —
[root@ovirt-node-01 ~]# hosted-engine --vm-status | grep -e "Hostname" -e "Engine" Hostname : ovirt-node-01 Engine status : {"health": "good", "vm": "up", "detail": "up"} Hostname : ovirt-node-02 Engine status : {"reason": "vm not running on this host", "health": "bad", "vm": "down", "detail": "unknown"} Hostname : ovirt-node-03 Engine status : {"reason": "vm not running on this host", "health": "bad", "vm": "down", "detail": "unknown”}
When I deployed the hosted engine, I gave it a separate hostname/IP, as I expected it would need it (hostname = “ovirt-engine-01”)
So when exactly did you changed the hostname? And what did you pass to the hosted engine install as answers? perhaps share the setup log under /var/log/ovirt-hosted-engine-ha However, when I look at the hosts in the oVirt web admin screen, I see that
the first host has the name “ovirt-engine-01” whereas it has the hostname of “ovirt-node-01”
I also notice that even though the 1st host is showing the number of VM’s running as “1”, when I click on the “VMs” node, there are no VMs showing.
You have to have a data center active, and only after that you would be able to see your engine VM. This is a must. First your hosted_storage will be imported into the setup automatically followed by the engine vm import. Not sure of what “should be”, but, would expect that the first host would
have a name equal to its DNS hostname (like the other two do), and that in VMs I would see the engine VM. But is that not how a hosted engine setup works?
And if not, if the engine VM migrates over to another host, will that host gain the name "“ovirt-engine-01”?
no. We don't mess with that. The hostname is static in the engine.
I ask this now because I want to set up a storage domain on these hosts using GlusterFS, and I have to select a host to base the connection on. In the “Use Host” dropbox, I currently see the values:
ovirt-node-03 ovirt-node-02 ovirt-engine-01
I would expect that the last entry would be for “ovirt-host-01”, not “ovirt-engine-01”…
I don’t want to set up the storage domain until I figure this out, so as to prevent potential breakage...
Thanks, Will _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Hi Roy, I did not ever change the engine name… When I deployed it with ‘hosted-engine —setup’ I gave it its’ own hostname/IP, assuming it would need one that’s different from any of the virtualization hosts. So the virt hosts have names / IPs as follows: ovirt-node-01 xxx.yyy.zzz.91 ovirt-node-02 xxx.yyy.zzz.92 ovirt-node-03 xxx.yyy.zzz.93 …and the engine VM has the hostname / IP as follows: ovirt-engine-01 xxx.yyy.zzz.95 The engine setup log can be viewed at: http://ur1.ca/od171 I clicked on the “Data Centers” node on the left nav of webadmin, and I see that the “Default” DC (the only one I have) has a status of “Uninitialized”… Not sure how to initialize it (there’s no menu option for that on the node…) Thanks, Will On Dec 27, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com<mailto:rgolan@redhat.com>> wrote: On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: Hi all, I have a hyperconverged setup where I have a hosted engine that runs on one of three hosts, which are named “ovirt-node-[01,02,03]” — [root@ovirt-node-01 ~]# hosted-engine --vm-status | grep -e "Hostname" -e "Engine" Hostname : ovirt-node-01 Engine status : {"health": "good", "vm": "up", "detail": "up"} Hostname : ovirt-node-02 Engine status : {"reason": "vm not running on this host", "health": "bad", "vm": "down", "detail": "unknown"} Hostname : ovirt-node-03 Engine status : {"reason": "vm not running on this host", "health": "bad", "vm": "down", "detail": "unknown”} When I deployed the hosted engine, I gave it a separate hostname/IP, as I expected it would need it (hostname = “ovirt-engine-01”) So when exactly did you changed the hostname? And what did you pass to the hosted engine install as answers? perhaps share the setup log under /var/log/ovirt-hosted-engine-ha However, when I look at the hosts in the oVirt web admin screen, I see that the first host has the name “ovirt-engine-01” whereas it has the hostname of “ovirt-node-01” I also notice that even though the 1st host is showing the number of VM’s running as “1”, when I click on the “VMs” node, there are no VMs showing. You have to have a data center active, and only after that you would be able to see your engine VM. This is a must. First your hosted_storage will be imported into the setup automatically followed by the engine vm import. Not sure of what “should be”, but, would expect that the first host would have a name equal to its DNS hostname (like the other two do), and that in VMs I would see the engine VM. But is that not how a hosted engine setup works? And if not, if the engine VM migrates over to another host, will that host gain the name "“ovirt-engine-01”? no. We don't mess with that. The hostname is static in the engine. I ask this now because I want to set up a storage domain on these hosts using GlusterFS, and I have to select a host to base the connection on. In the “Use Host” dropbox, I currently see the values: ovirt-node-03 ovirt-node-02 ovirt-engine-01 I would expect that the last entry would be for “ovirt-host-01”, not “ovirt-engine-01”… I don’t want to set up the storage domain until I figure this out, so as to prevent potential breakage... Thanks, Will _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Did a bit of RTFM this evening, and read in the Admin Guide that: "The new data center is added to the virtualization environment. It will remain Uninitialized until a cluster, host, and storage domain are configured for it; use Guide Me to configure these entities." So, in webadmin I clicked on the Data Centers node, and then clicked on the “Guide Me” link; sure enough, in the “There are still unconfigured entities:” section, there was a link for “Attach Storage”. When I clicked on it, I saw that there was an option to attach the “hosted_storage” storage domain; when I tried to do so, it failed, and I got the following events at the bottom of the webadmin UI: Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM VDSM ovirt-node-03 command failed: Cannot acquire host id: (u'e89b6e64-bd7d-4846-b970-9af32a3295ee', SanlockException(22, 'Sanlock lockspace add failure', 'Invalid argument')) Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM Failed to attach Storage Domains to Data Center Default. (User: admin@internal) Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM Failed to attach Storage Domain hosted_storage to Data Center Default. (User: admin@internal) So, how to fix this latest issue? On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: I clicked on the “Data Centers” node on the left nav of webadmin, and I see that the “Default” DC (the only one I have) has a status of “Uninitialized”… Not sure how to initialize it (there’s no menu option for that on the node…)

Think I found the issue… Something caused the glusterd service on ovirt-host-03 to segfault… Restarted it, and then went ahead and configured a GlusterFS storage domain for Data, which worked, and now the DC status is “Up"… Funny thing is, I do not see the “hosted_storage” domain anywhere now, just the Data SD that I created (name = vm_storage_1) There is still nothing showing up in the “VMs” node… On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: Did a bit of RTFM this evening, and read in the Admin Guide that: "The new data center is added to the virtualization environment. It will remain Uninitialized until a cluster, host, and storage domain are configured for it; use Guide Me to configure these entities." So, in webadmin I clicked on the Data Centers node, and then clicked on the “Guide Me” link; sure enough, in the “There are still unconfigured entities:” section, there was a link for “Attach Storage”. When I clicked on it, I saw that there was an option to attach the “hosted_storage” storage domain; when I tried to do so, it failed, and I got the following events at the bottom of the webadmin UI: Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM VDSM ovirt-node-03 command failed: Cannot acquire host id: (u'e89b6e64-bd7d-4846-b970-9af32a3295ee', SanlockException(22, 'Sanlock lockspace add failure', 'Invalid argument')) Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM Failed to attach Storage Domains to Data Center Default. (User: admin@internal) Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM Failed to attach Storage Domain hosted_storage to Data Center Default. (User: admin@internal) So, how to fix this latest issue? On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: I clicked on the “Data Centers” node on the left nav of webadmin, and I see that the “Default” DC (the only one I have) has a status of “Uninitialized”… Not sure how to initialize it (there’s no menu option for that on the node…)

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:31 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com> wrote:
Think I found the issue… Something caused the glusterd service on ovirt-host-03 to segfault… Restarted it, and then went ahead and configured a GlusterFS storage domain for Data, which worked, and now the DC status is “Up"… Funny thing is, I do not see the “hosted_storage” domain anywhere now, just the Data SD that I created (name = vm_storage_1)
There is still nothing showing up in the “VMs” node…
Please share the /var/log/ovirt-engine/engine.log from the engine machine If you are running 3.6.1 you should see the domain imported automatically.
On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto: wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote:
Did a bit of RTFM this evening, and read in the Admin Guide that: "The new data center is added to the virtualization environment. It will remain Uninitialized until a cluster, host, and storage domain are configured for it; use Guide Me to configure these entities."
So, in webadmin I clicked on the Data Centers node, and then clicked on the “Guide Me” link; sure enough, in the “There are still unconfigured entities:” section, there was a link for “Attach Storage”. When I clicked on it, I saw that there was an option to attach the “hosted_storage” storage domain; when I tried to do so, it failed, and I got the following events at the bottom of the webadmin UI:
Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM VDSM ovirt-node-03 command failed: Cannot acquire host id: (u'e89b6e64-bd7d-4846-b970-9af32a3295ee', SanlockException(22, 'Sanlock lockspace add failure', 'Invalid argument'))
Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM Failed to attach Storage Domains to Data Center Default. (User: admin@internal)
Dec 27, 2015 8:58:18 PM Failed to attach Storage Domain hosted_storage to Data Center Default. (User: admin@internal)
So, how to fix this latest issue?
On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto: wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote:
I clicked on the “Data Centers” node on the left nav of webadmin, and I see that the “Default” DC (the only one I have) has a status of “Uninitialized”… Not sure how to initialize it (there’s no menu option for that on the node…)

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Would like to get this issue settled before I move on… Should I expect to see the hosted engine VM showing up in the “VMs” node, or is it a “hidden” VM because of it’s special status? Also, I see that I can change the name of the 1st host if I select it in the “Hosts” node, and choose “Edit”… Would it cause any problem if I rename it there (how would that effect the engine VM, if at all?) On Dec 28, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: The uncompressed engine log for the period in question is 12M... Too large for a pastebin... However, I grepped for ‘domain’ and that culls it down to 18 lines; the results are at:http://ur1.ca/od26u From: Roy Golan [mailto:rgolan@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:04 AM To: Will Dennis Cc: users Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hosted engine vs. hypervisor hosts naming on hyperconverged setup On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:31 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: There is still nothing showing up in the “VMs” node… Please share the /var/log/ovirt-engine/engine.log from the engine machine If you are running 3.6.1 you should see the domain imported automatically.

Also, just noticed that I’m getting the message “The Hosted Engine Storage Domain isn’t Active” in the Events pane, but I do not see that domain anywhere now in the Storage node in the Datacenter… What must I do to activate this? On Dec 29, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: Would like to get this issue settled before I move on… Should I expect to see the hosted engine VM showing up in the “VMs” node, or is it a “hidden” VM because of it’s special status? Also, I see that I can change the name of the 1st host if I select it in the “Hosts” node, and choose “Edit”… Would it cause any problem if I rename it there (how would that effect the engine VM, if at all?) On Dec 28, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: The uncompressed engine log for the period in question is 12M... Too large for a pastebin... However, I grepped for ‘domain’ and that culls it down to 18 lines; the results are at:http://ur1.ca/od26u From: Roy Golan [mailto:rgolan@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:04 AM To: Will Dennis Cc: users Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hosted engine vs. hypervisor hosts naming on hyperconverged setup On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:31 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: There is still nothing showing up in the “VMs” node… Please share the /var/log/ovirt-engine/engine.log from the engine machine If you are running 3.6.1 you should see the domain imported automatically.

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com> wrote:
Would like to get this issue settled before I move on… Should I expect to see the hosted engine VM showing up in the “VMs” node, or is it a “hidden” VM because of it’s special status?
This is tracked in the following bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1269768
Also, I see that I can change the name of the 1st host if I select it in the “Hosts” node, and choose “Edit”… Would it cause any problem if I rename it there (how would that effect the engine VM, if at all?)
IIUC it should not do anything to the engine vm or the ha daemons.
On Dec 28, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote:
The uncompressed engine log for the period in question is 12M... Too large for a pastebin...
However, I grepped for ‘domain’ and that culls it down to 18 lines; the results are at:http://ur1.ca/od26u
From: Roy Golan [mailto:rgolan@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:04 AM To: Will Dennis Cc: users Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hosted engine vs. hypervisor hosts naming on hyperconverged setup
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 5:31 AM, Will Dennis <wdennis@nec-labs.com<mailto:wdennis@nec-labs.com>> wrote: There is still nothing showing up in the “VMs” node…
Please share the /var/log/ovirt-engine/engine.log from the engine machine If you are running 3.6.1 you should see the domain imported automatically.
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