Re: [Users] Thin Provisioning
Can you please tell me what disk type you have on the template and send a screen shot of the Resource Allocation tab to the users@ovirt.org list? On 02/21/2013 09:43 AM, Juan Jose wrote:
Hello Dafna,
Yes, I have already selected the Clone radio button as the Start Guide shows and the Thin Provision doesn't appears.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> wrote:
ok. so you have 1 NFS data domain which has a template on it and when you are trying to create a new vm you only have preallocated disk type.
when you open the new vm dialogue, after you select the template, in the Resource allocation tab you need to select the clone radio button (its near the Template Provisioning). once you do that, the allocation policy scroll will become active and you will be able to select thin or preallocated.
let me know if after you select the clone you still only have preallocated.
On 02/20/2013 06:09 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > Hello Dafna, > > Are you want to say one NFS domain?, I have one for VM aand one isos. > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>> wrote: > > do you have more than one domain? > > > On 02/20/2013 05:38 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > > I'm following the Quick Start Guide to clone a machine from a > Template > > that it's already created. As thi guide says it's necessary to > select > > in Allocation tab from Resource Allocation, Thin Provision. When > I try > > to do this and down the select field it doesn't appear this > option, I > > only can see Preallocated. I have oVirt engine 3.1. Can somebody > give > > some light why I haven't this option in my webadmin? > > > > Many thanks in avanced, > > > > Juanjo. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > -- > Dafna Ron > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >
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Hello Dafna, I hope that this two screenshots provides this information. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com> wrote:
Can you please tell me what disk type you have on the template and send a screen shot of the Resource Allocation tab to the users@ovirt.org list?
On 02/21/2013 09:43 AM, Juan Jose wrote:
Hello Dafna,
Yes, I have already selected the Clone radio button as the Start Guide shows and the Thin Provision doesn't appears.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> wrote:
ok. so you have 1 NFS data domain which has a template on it and when you are trying to create a new vm you only have preallocated disk type.
when you open the new vm dialogue, after you select the template, in the Resource allocation tab you need to select the clone radio button (its near the Template Provisioning). once you do that, the allocation policy scroll will become active and you will be able to select thin or preallocated.
let me know if after you select the clone you still only have preallocated.
On 02/20/2013 06:09 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > Hello Dafna, > > Are you want to say one NFS domain?, I have one for VM aand one isos. > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>> wrote: > > do you have more than one domain? > > > On 02/20/2013 05:38 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > > I'm following the Quick Start Guide to clone a machine from a > Template > > that it's already created. As thi guide says it's necessary to > select > > in Allocation tab from Resource Allocation, Thin Provision. When > I try > > to do this and down the select field it doesn't appear this > option, I > > only can see Preallocated. I have oVirt engine 3.1. Can somebody > give > > some light why I haven't this option in my webadmin? > > > > Many thanks in avanced, > > > > Juanjo. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > -- > Dafna Ron > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >
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Hi Juan, I see what the issue is and it's actually by design. The template you created has a Preallocated image. in NFS, to make a preallocated image we actually write to the disk to make it preallocated. as you can see, I created a vm with preallocated disk in NFS and if I run DU during the creation of the image you can see the size go up: 2.4G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]# du -h 2.5G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]# du -h 2.6G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]# so in NFS storage, if your template is preallocated you cannot create a thin provision copy vm (distinguishing between the actual data and previously zeroed will be complicated). you can create a snapshot of that image which will be thin provision but it will be linked to the template. or you can create a thin provision template and than create a thin provision vm or preallocated vm. Dafna On 02/21/2013 01:56 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
Hello Dafna,
I hope that this two screenshots provides this information.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> wrote:
Can you please tell me what disk type you have on the template and send a screen shot of the Resource Allocation tab to the users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> list?
On 02/21/2013 09:43 AM, Juan Jose wrote: > Hello Dafna, > > Yes, I have already selected the Clone radio button as the Start Guide > shows and the Thin Provision doesn't appears. > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>> wrote: > > ok. so you have 1 NFS data domain which has a template on it and when > you are trying to create a new vm you only have preallocated disk > type. > > when you open the new vm dialogue, after you select the template, > in the > Resource allocation tab you need to select the clone radio button (its > near the Template Provisioning). > once you do that, the allocation policy scroll will become active and > you will be able to select thin or preallocated. > > let me know if after you select the clone you still only have > preallocated. > > > > On 02/20/2013 06:09 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > > Hello Dafna, > > > > Are you want to say one NFS domain?, I have one for VM aand one > isos. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> > > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>>> wrote: > > > > do you have more than one domain? > > > > > > On 02/20/2013 05:38 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > I'm following the Quick Start Guide to clone a machine from a > > Template > > > that it's already created. As thi guide says it's necessary to > > select > > > in Allocation tab from Resource Allocation, Thin > Provision. When > > I try > > > to do this and down the select field it doesn't appear this > > option, I > > > only can see Preallocated. I have oVirt engine 3.1. Can > somebody > > give > > > some light why I haven't this option in my webadmin? > > > > > > Many thanks in avanced, > > > > > > Juanjo. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users mailing list > > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>> > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > -- > > Dafna Ron > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > -- > Dafna Ron > >
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Many thanks for your information Dafna. Quick Start Guide doesn't explain nothing about this and I have follewed it to create the two VM, Fedora 17 and Windows 7, that I'm using to create Templates and when I have arrived to this part I have found this problem. Now I know what is the procedure Juanjo. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi Juan,
I see what the issue is and it's actually by design. The template you created has a Preallocated image. in NFS, to make a preallocated image we actually write to the disk to make it preallocated.
as you can see, I created a vm with preallocated disk in NFS and if I run DU during the creation of the image you can see the size go up:
2.4G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]# du -h 2.5G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]# du -h 2.6G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]#
so in NFS storage, if your template is preallocated you cannot create a thin provision copy vm (distinguishing between the actual data and previously zeroed will be complicated). you can create a snapshot of that image which will be thin provision but it will be linked to the template. or you can create a thin provision template and than create a thin provision vm or preallocated vm.
Dafna
On 02/21/2013 01:56 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
Hello Dafna,
I hope that this two screenshots provides this information.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> wrote:
Can you please tell me what disk type you have on the template and send a screen shot of the Resource Allocation tab to the users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> list?
On 02/21/2013 09:43 AM, Juan Jose wrote: > Hello Dafna, > > Yes, I have already selected the Clone radio button as the Start Guide > shows and the Thin Provision doesn't appears. > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>> wrote: > > ok. so you have 1 NFS data domain which has a template on it and when > you are trying to create a new vm you only have preallocated disk > type. > > when you open the new vm dialogue, after you select the template, > in the > Resource allocation tab you need to select the clone radio button (its > near the Template Provisioning). > once you do that, the allocation policy scroll will become active and > you will be able to select thin or preallocated. > > let me know if after you select the clone you still only have > preallocated. > > > > On 02/20/2013 06:09 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > > Hello Dafna, > > > > Are you want to say one NFS domain?, I have one for VM aand one > isos. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> > > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>>> wrote: > > > > do you have more than one domain? > > > > > > On 02/20/2013 05:38 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > I'm following the Quick Start Guide to clone a machine from a > > Template > > > that it's already created. As thi guide says it's necessary to > > select > > > in Allocation tab from Resource Allocation, Thin > Provision. When > > I try > > > to do this and down the select field it doesn't appear this > > option, I > > > only can see Preallocated. I have oVirt engine 3.1. Can > somebody > > give > > > some light why I haven't this option in my webadmin? > > > > > > Many thanks in avanced, > > > > > > Juanjo. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users mailing list > > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>> > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > -- > > Dafna Ron > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > -- > Dafna Ron > >
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that's good input, I will look at the guide. thanks On 02/21/2013 06:00 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
Many thanks for your information Dafna. Quick Start Guide doesn't explain nothing about this and I have follewed it to create the two VM, Fedora 17 and Windows 7, that I'm using to create Templates and when I have arrived to this part I have found this problem. Now I know what is the procedure
Juanjo.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi Juan,
I see what the issue is and it's actually by design. The template you created has a Preallocated image. in NFS, to make a preallocated image we actually write to the disk to make it preallocated.
as you can see, I created a vm with preallocated disk in NFS and if I run DU during the creation of the image you can see the size go up:
2.4G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]# du -h 2.5G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]# du -h 2.6G . [root@orion f1a6a2e7-38f1-4a7c-8f3b-efbca664d7aa]#
so in NFS storage, if your template is preallocated you cannot create a thin provision copy vm (distinguishing between the actual data and previously zeroed will be complicated). you can create a snapshot of that image which will be thin provision but it will be linked to the template. or you can create a thin provision template and than create a thin provision vm or preallocated vm.
Dafna
On 02/21/2013 01:56 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > Hello Dafna, > > I hope that this two screenshots provides this information. > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>> wrote: > > Can you please tell me what disk type you have on the template and > send > a screen shot of the Resource Allocation tab to the > users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> <mailto:users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>> list? > > > On 02/21/2013 09:43 AM, Juan Jose wrote: > > Hello Dafna, > > > > Yes, I have already selected the Clone radio button as the Start > Guide > > shows and the Thin Provision doesn't appears. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Dafna Ron <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> > > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>>> wrote: > > > > ok. so you have 1 NFS data domain which has a template on it > and when > > you are trying to create a new vm you only have preallocated > disk > > type. > > > > when you open the new vm dialogue, after you select the > template, > > in the > > Resource allocation tab you need to select the clone radio > button (its > > near the Template Provisioning). > > once you do that, the allocation policy scroll will become > active and > > you will be able to select thin or preallocated. > > > > let me know if after you select the clone you still only have > > preallocated. > > > > > > > > On 02/20/2013 06:09 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > > > Hello Dafna, > > > > > > Are you want to say one NFS domain?, I have one for VM > aand one > > isos. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Dafna Ron > <dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> > > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>> > > > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>> > <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com> <mailto:dron@redhat.com <mailto:dron@redhat.com>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > do you have more than one domain? > > > > > > > > > On 02/20/2013 05:38 PM, Juan Jose wrote: > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > > > > > I'm following the Quick Start Guide to clone a > machine from a > > > Template > > > > that it's already created. As thi guide says it's > necessary to > > > select > > > > in Allocation tab from Resource Allocation, Thin > > Provision. When > > > I try > > > > to do this and down the select field it doesn't > appear this > > > option, I > > > > only can see Preallocated. I have oVirt engine 3.1. Can > > somebody > > > give > > > > some light why I haven't this option in my webadmin? > > > > > > > > Many thanks in avanced, > > > > > > > > Juanjo. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Users mailing list > > > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>> > > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>>> > > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dafna Ron > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users mailing list > > > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>> > > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>> > <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> <mailto:Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org>>>> > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dafna Ron > > > > > > > -- > Dafna Ron > >
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