
--_000_687766E0007010429FBFF98CA70824887896D9mcexch01mcongroup_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, ovirt: 3.5 gluster: 3.6.1 OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine =3D centos 6.6) i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so = far I have come up with this as a start for us - API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion wit= hin the VM but not for storage corruption - Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn't able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provis= ioned and we did not do that in the setup For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scr= ipts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not develop= ers enough to do that). As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplicatio= n that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially b= ecause of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without = problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository. Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup an= d restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction = ? I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help. Regards Soeren --_000_687766E0007010429FBFF98CA70824887896D9mcexch01mcongroup_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
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</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt host= ed engine =3D centos 6.6)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">i spent quite a while researchi= ng backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as= a start for us<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level= 1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:I= gnore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> = </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">API calls to create sch= edule snapshots of virtual machines<br> This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion wit= hin the VM but not for storage corruption<br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level= 1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:I= gnore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> = </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Since we are using a gl= uster backend, gluster snapshots<br> I wasn’t able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin =
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">gluster: 3.6.1<o:p></o:p></span= provisioned and we did not do that in the setup<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For the API calls we have the p= roblem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to = do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).<o:p></o= :p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As an additional information, w= e have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup = purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we= can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup rep= ository.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Are there any backup and restor= e procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you an= d can you point me into the right direction ?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I am a little bit list right no= w and would appreciate any help.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Soeren<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_687766E0007010429FBFF98CA70824887896D9mcexch01mcongroup_--

Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM_Backups Regards, Vered ----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn’t able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Vered, It sounds like Soeren already knows about that page. His issue seems to be, as well as the issue of others judging by comments on here, is that there aren’t any real world examples of how the API is used. On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Vered Volansky <vered@redhat.com> wrote:
Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM_Backups
Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn’t able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Well, real world is community... Maybe change the name of the thread in order to make this more clear for someone from the community that might be able to could help. Maybe something like: Request for sharing real world example of VM backups. We obviously use it as part as developing, but I don't have what you're asking for. If you try it yourself and stumble onto questions in the process, please ask the list and we'll do our best to help. Best Regards, Vered ----- Original Message -----
From: "Blaster" <blaster@556nato.com> To: "Vered Volansky" <vered@redhat.com> Cc: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:56:13 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Vered,
It sounds like Soeren already knows about that page. His issue seems to be, as well as the issue of others judging by comments on here, is that there aren’t any real world examples of how the API is used.
On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Vered Volansky <vered@redhat.com> wrote:
Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM_Backups
Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn’t able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Sounds like a Chicken/Egg problem. On 12/23/2014 12:03 AM, Vered Volansky wrote:
Well, real world is community... Maybe change the name of the thread in order to make this more clear for someone from the community that might be able to could help. Maybe something like: Request for sharing real world example of VM backups.
We obviously use it as part as developing, but I don't have what you're asking for. If you try it yourself and stumble onto questions in the process, please ask the list and we'll do our best to help.
Best Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Blaster" <blaster@556nato.com> To: "Vered Volansky" <vered@redhat.com> Cc: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:56:13 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Vered,
It sounds like Soeren already knows about that page. His issue seems to be, as well as the issue of others judging by comments on here, is that there aren’t any real world examples of how the API is used.
On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Vered Volansky <vered@redhat.com> wrote:
Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM_Backups
Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn’t able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Dear Vered, at some point we have to start, and right now we are getting closer, even with the documentation it is sometime hard to find the correct place to start, especially without specific examples (and I have decades of experience now) with the backup plugin that came from Lucas Vandroux we have a starting point right now, and we will continue form here and try to work with him on this. Regards Soeren -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Blaster Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:49 PM To: Vered Volansky Cc: Users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs Sounds like a Chicken/Egg problem. On 12/23/2014 12:03 AM, Vered Volansky wrote:
Well, real world is community... Maybe change the name of the thread in order to make this more clear for someone from the community that might be able to could help. Maybe something like: Request for sharing real world example of VM backups.
We obviously use it as part as developing, but I don't have what you're asking for. If you try it yourself and stumble onto questions in the process, please ask the list and we'll do our best to help.
Best Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Blaster" <blaster@556nato.com> To: "Vered Volansky" <vered@redhat.com> Cc: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:56:13 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Vered,
It sounds like Soeren already knows about that page. His issue seems to be, as well as the issue of others judging by comments on here, is that there aren’t any real world examples of how the API is used.
On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Vered Volansky <vered@redhat.com> wrote:
Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM _Backups
Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn’t able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Hi guys, I'm currently working on complete example of the steps appear in - http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration will share with you as soon as i'm done with it. thanks, Liron ----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: "Vered Volansky" <vered@redhat.com> Cc: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:58:01 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear Vered,
at some point we have to start, and right now we are getting closer, even with the documentation it is sometime hard to find the correct place to start, especially without specific examples (and I have decades of experience now)
with the backup plugin that came from Lucas Vandroux we have a starting point right now, and we will continue form here and try to work with him on this.
Regards Soeren
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Blaster Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:49 PM To: Vered Volansky Cc: Users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Sounds like a Chicken/Egg problem.
On 12/23/2014 12:03 AM, Vered Volansky wrote:
Well, real world is community... Maybe change the name of the thread in order to make this more clear for someone from the community that might be able to could help. Maybe something like: Request for sharing real world example of VM backups.
We obviously use it as part as developing, but I don't have what you're asking for. If you try it yourself and stumble onto questions in the process, please ask the list and we'll do our best to help.
Best Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Blaster" <blaster@556nato.com> To: "Vered Volansky" <vered@redhat.com> Cc: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:56:13 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Vered,
It sounds like Soeren already knows about that page. His issue seems to be, as well as the issue of others judging by comments on here, is that there aren’t any real world examples of how the API is used.
On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Vered Volansky <vered@redhat.com> wrote:
Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM _Backups
Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn’t able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Hi All, I've uploaded an example script (oVirt python-sdk) that contains examples to the steps described on http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration let me know how it works out for you - https://github.com/laravot/backuprestoreapi ----- Original Message -----
From: "Liron Aravot" <laravot@redhat.com> To: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> Cc: "Vered Volansky" <vered@redhat.com>, Users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 12:20:36 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Hi guys, I'm currently working on complete example of the steps appear in - http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
will share with you as soon as i'm done with it.
thanks, Liron
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From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: "Vered Volansky" <vered@redhat.com> Cc: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:58:01 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear Vered,
at some point we have to start, and right now we are getting closer, even with the documentation it is sometime hard to find the correct place to start, especially without specific examples (and I have decades of experience now)
with the backup plugin that came from Lucas Vandroux we have a starting point right now, and we will continue form here and try to work with him on this.
Regards Soeren
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Blaster Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:49 PM To: Vered Volansky Cc: Users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Sounds like a Chicken/Egg problem.
On 12/23/2014 12:03 AM, Vered Volansky wrote:
Well, real world is community... Maybe change the name of the thread in order to make this more clear for someone from the community that might be able to could help. Maybe something like: Request for sharing real world example of VM backups.
We obviously use it as part as developing, but I don't have what you're asking for. If you try it yourself and stumble onto questions in the process, please ask the list and we'll do our best to help.
Best Regards, Vered
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From: "Blaster" <blaster@556nato.com> To: "Vered Volansky" <vered@redhat.com> Cc: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:56:13 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Vered,
It sounds like Soeren already knows about that page. His issue seems to be, as well as the issue of others judging by comments on here, is that there aren’t any real world examples of how the API is used.
On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Vered Volansky <vered@redhat.com> wrote:
Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM _Backups
Regards, Vered
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From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn’t able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Hi, that is exactly right, altough we are getting closer now, we are just checking the plugins that were posted a few days ago https://github.com/ovirt-china/vm-backup-scheduler they seem to work pretty good so far, I will talk to a few developers after the holidays and see whether we can improve something, we already translated a few things in those plugins from mandarin to English. We will have a look into improvements of that plugin. I will keep you guys posted. Thanks Soeren -----Original Message----- From: Blaster [mailto:blaster@556nato.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:56 AM To: Vered Volansky Cc: Soeren Malchow; Users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs Vered, It sounds like Soeren already knows about that page. His issue seems to be, as well as the issue of others judging by comments on here, is that there aren't any real world examples of how the API is used. On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Vered Volansky <vered@redhat.com> wrote:
Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM_B ackups
Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn't able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Hello, Could you please share your translated backup-vm plugin ? Thank you. Le 23/12/2014 10:31, Soeren Malchow a écrit :
Hi,
that is exactly right, altough we are getting closer now, we are just checking the plugins that were posted a few days ago
https://github.com/ovirt-china/vm-backup-scheduler
they seem to work pretty good so far, I will talk to a few developers after the holidays and see whether we can improve something, we already translated a few things in those plugins from mandarin to English. We will have a look into improvements of that plugin.
I will keep you guys posted.
Thanks Soeren
-----Original Message----- From: Blaster [mailto:blaster@556nato.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:56 AM To: Vered Volansky Cc: Soeren Malchow; Users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Vered,
It sounds like Soeren already knows about that page. His issue seems to be, as well as the issue of others judging by comments on here, is that there aren't any real world examples of how the API is used.
On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Vered Volansky <vered@redhat.com> wrote:
Please take a look at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration
Specifically: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration#Full_VM_B ackups
Regards, Vered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soeren Malchow" <soeren.malchow@mcon.net> To: Users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Backup and Restore of VMs
Dear all,
ovirt: 3.5
gluster: 3.6.1
OS: CentOS 7 (except ovirt hosted engine = centos 6.6)
i spent quite a while researching backup and restore for VMs right now, so far I have come up with this as a start for us
- API calls to create schedule snapshots of virtual machines This is or short term storage and to guard against accidential deletion within the VM but not for storage corruption
- Since we are using a gluster backend, gluster snapshots I wasn't able so far to really test it since the LV needs to be thin provisioned and we did not do that in the setup
For the API calls we have the problem that we can not find any existing scripts or something like that to do those snapshots (and i/we are not developers enough to do that).
As an additional information, we have a ZFS based storage with deduplication that we use for other backup purposes which does a great job especially because of the deduplication (we can storage generations of backups without problems), this storage can be NFS exported and used as backup repository.
Are there any backup and restore procedure you guys are using for backup and restore that works for you and can you point me into the right direction ?
I am a little bit list right now and would appreciate any help.
Regards
Soeren
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Liron Aravot
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Soeren Malchow
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Vered Volansky