--_000_D86C48DF8800164BBE50B87623F7AC954807B80Bln2wio001devtra_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1? I only see the fc19 version currently: Index of /releases/3.3/iso [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description [DIR] Parent Directory - [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 = 219M [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Au= g-2013 04:56 250M [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18 = 219M [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Se= p-2013 05:19 250M [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54 = 252M Many Thanks, Simon --_000_D86C48DF8800164BBE50B87623F7AC954807B80Bln2wio001devtra_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060406090802000103080807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of OS it runs, right? If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major disadvantages come to mind: 1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies. This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management requirements 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment. Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node. -Bob On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
I only see the fc19 version currently:
Index of /releases/3.3/iso
[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
[DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54 252M
Many Thanks,
Simon
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--------------060406090802000103080807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi,<br> <br> The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of OS it runs, right?<br> <br> If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major disadvantages come to mind:<br> 1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies. This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management requirements<br> 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment.<br> <br> Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node.<br> <br> -Bob<br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:D86C48DF8800164BBE50B87623F7AC954807B80B@ln2-wio-001.dev.tradingscreen.com" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:#954F72; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal">Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1? <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">I only see the fc19 version currently:<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Index of /releases/3.3/iso<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">[DIR] Parent Directory - <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 219M <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 250M <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18 219M <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19 250M <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54 252M <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Many Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------060406090802000103080807--
On 12/09/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Hi,
The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of OS it runs, right?
If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major disadvantages come to mind: 1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies. This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management requirements 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment.
Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node.
not sure i agree. there are differences between the fedora and .el6 distro's, especially around things like testing of backward compatibility for live migration between different versions (for a clean upgrade path). the fedora one covers newer features / fast moving the .el6 one is more robust / tested. so depends on what you are trying to do.
-Bob
On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
I only see the fc19 version currently:
Index of /releases/3.3/iso
[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
[DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54 252M
Many Thanks,
Simon
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
I would rather stick with the el6 iso if possible for the reasons mentioned in the previous email. However, if there are no plans to continue with the production of el6 ovirt-node iso's I'll switch to fc19. So I suppose the question still stands, are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1? Many thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: 09 December 2013 19:47 To: Bob Doolittle; Simon Barrett; users@ovirt.org; Fabian Deutsch Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt Node ISO On 12/09/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Hi,
The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of OS it runs, right?
If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major disadvantages come to mind: 1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies. This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management requirements 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment.
Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node.
not sure i agree. there are differences between the fedora and .el6 distro's, especially around things like testing of backward compatibility for live migration between different versions (for a clean upgrade path). the fedora one covers newer features / fast moving the .el6 one is more robust / tested. so depends on what you are trying to do.
-Bob
On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
I only see the fc19 version currently:
Index of /releases/3.3/iso
[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
[DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54 252M
Many Thanks,
Simon
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
--=-KLUllTzJKqDIi9r6a2ps Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Mittwoch, den 11.12.2013, 10:32 +0000 schrieb Simon Barrett:
I would rather stick with the el6 iso if possible for the reasons mention= ed in the previous email. However, if there are no plans to continue with t= he production of el6 ovirt-node iso's I'll switch to fc19. =20 So I suppose the question still stands, are there plans to release an el6= iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
Hey Simon, yes - it is still planned to do el6/CentOS based ovirt-node-iso releases. Contributions and testing is always welcome. - fabian
Hi,
The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should= =20 not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end=20 appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of= =20 OS it runs, right?
If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major=20 disadvantages come to mind: 1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies.=20 This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management=20 requirements 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt= =20 QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment.
Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the=20 oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as=20 possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of= Node. =20 not sure i agree. there are differences between the fedora and .el6 distr= o's, especially around things like testing of backward compatibility for li= ve migration between different versions (for a clean upgrade path).
Many thanks. =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com]=20 Sent: 09 December 2013 19:47 To: Bob Doolittle; Simon Barrett; users@ovirt.org; Fabian Deutsch Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt Node ISO =20 On 12/09/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: the fedora one covers newer features / fast moving the .el6 one is more r= obust / tested. =20 so depends on what you are trying to do. =20
-Bob
On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
I only see the fc19 version currently:
Index of /releases/3.3/iso
[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
[DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54 252M
Many Thanks,
Simon
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_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Thanks Fabian. I'll wait for the el6 version. -----Original Message----- From: Fabian Deutsch [mailto:fabiand@redhat.com] Sent: 11 December 2013 11:14 To: Simon Barrett Cc: Itamar Heim; Bob Doolittle; users@ovirt.org; Fabian Deutsch Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt Node ISO Am Mittwoch, den 11.12.2013, 10:32 +0000 schrieb Simon Barrett:
I would rather stick with the el6 iso if possible for the reasons mentioned in the previous email. However, if there are no plans to continue with the production of el6 ovirt-node iso's I'll switch to fc19.
So I suppose the question still stands, are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
Hey Simon, yes - it is still planned to do el6/CentOS based ovirt-node-iso releases. Contributions and testing is always welcome. - fabian
Many thanks.
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: 09 December 2013 19:47 To: Bob Doolittle; Simon Barrett; users@ovirt.org; Fabian Deutsch Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt Node ISO
On 12/09/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Hi,
The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of OS it runs, right?
If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major disadvantages come to mind: 1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies. This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management requirements 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment.
Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node.
not sure i agree. there are differences between the fedora and .el6 distro's, especially around things like testing of backward compatibility for live migration between different versions (for a clean upgrade path). the fedora one covers newer features / fast moving the .el6 one is more robust / tested.
so depends on what you are trying to do.
-Bob
On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
I only see the fc19 version currently:
Index of /releases/3.3/iso
[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
[DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18 219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54 252M
Many Thanks,
Simon
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