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Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
I only see the fc19 version currently:
Index of /releases/3.3/iso
[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
[DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56 =
219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Au=
g-2013 04:56 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18 =
219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Se=
p-2013 05:19 250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54 =
252M
Many Thanks,
Simon
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Hi,
The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should
not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end
appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of
OS it runs, right?
If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major
disadvantages come to mind:
1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies. This
dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management requirements
2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt QA team. This
increases the risk of your deployment.
Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the oVirt
team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as possible,
rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node.
-Bob
On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
I only see the fc19 version currently:
Index of /releases/3.3/iso
[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
[DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18
219M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19
250M
[ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54
252M
Many Thanks,
Simon
_______________________________________________
Users mailing list
Users(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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Hi,<br>
<br>
The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You
should not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a
back-end appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what
version of OS it runs, right?<br>
<br>
If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major
disadvantages come to mind:<br>
1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies.
This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management
requirements<br>
2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt QA team.
This increases the risk of your deployment.<br>
<br>
Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the
oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as
possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions
of Node.<br>
<br>
-Bob<br>
<br>
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oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I only see the fc19 version
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ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso
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On 12/09/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Hi,
The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should
not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end
appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of
OS it runs, right?
If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major
disadvantages come to mind:
1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies. This
dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management requirements
2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt QA team. This
increases the risk of your deployment.
Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the oVirt
team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as possible,
rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node.
not sure i agree. there are differences between the fedora and .el6
distro's, especially around things like testing of backward
compatibility for live migration between different versions (for a clean
upgrade path).
the fedora one covers newer features / fast moving
the .el6 one is more robust / tested.
so depends on what you are trying to do.
-Bob
On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
>
> Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
>
> I only see the fc19 version currently:
>
> Index of /releases/3.3/iso
>
> [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
>
> [DIR] Parent Directory -
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
> 219M
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
> 250M
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18
> 219M
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19
> 250M
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54
> 252M
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________
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Users(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
1:32 p.m.
I would rather stick with the el6 iso if possible for the reasons mentioned in the
previous email. However, if there are no plans to continue with the production of el6
ovirt-node iso's I'll switch to fc19.
So I suppose the question still stands, are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt
Node 3.0.3-1-1?
Many thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com]
Sent: 09 December 2013 19:47
To: Bob Doolittle; Simon Barrett; users(a)ovirt.org; Fabian Deutsch
Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt Node ISO
On 12/09/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Hi,
The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should
not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a back-end
appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of
OS it runs, right?
If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major
disadvantages come to mind:
1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies.
This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management
requirements 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt
QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment.
Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the
oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as
possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node.
not sure i agree. there are differences between the fedora and .el6 distro's,
especially around things like testing of backward compatibility for live migration between
different versions (for a clean upgrade path).
the fedora one covers newer features / fast moving the .el6 one is more robust / tested.
so depends on what you are trying to do.
-Bob
On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
>
> Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
>
> I only see the fc19 version currently:
>
> Index of /releases/3.3/iso
>
> [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
>
> [DIR] Parent Directory -
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
> 219M
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
> 250M
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18
> 219M
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19
> 250M
>
> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54
> 252M
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________
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Am Mittwoch, den 11.12.2013, 10:32 +0000 schrieb Simon Barrett:
I would rather stick with the el6 iso if possible for the reasons
mention=
ed in the previous email. However, if there are no plans to continue with
t=
he production of el6 ovirt-node iso's I'll switch to fc19.
=20
So I suppose the question still stands, are there plans to release an el6=
iso for
oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
Hey Simon,
yes - it is still planned to do el6/CentOS based ovirt-node-iso
releases.
Contributions and testing is always welcome.
- fabian
Many thanks.
=20
=20
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From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com]=20
Sent: 09 December 2013 19:47
To: Bob Doolittle; Simon Barrett; users(a)ovirt.org; Fabian Deutsch
Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt Node ISO
=20
On 12/09/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You should=
=20
> not care what is "under the covers". You just use it
as a back-end=20
> appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what version of=
=20
> OS it runs, right?
>
> If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major=20
> disadvantages come to mind:
> 1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies.=20
> This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management=20
> requirements 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the oVirt=
=20
> QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment.
>
> Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the=20
> oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as=20
> possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of=
Node.
=20
not sure i agree. there are differences between the fedora and .el6 distr=
o's,
especially around things like testing of backward compatibility for li=
ve migration between different versions (for a clean upgrade path).
the fedora one covers newer features / fast moving the .el6 one is
more r=
obust / tested.
=20
so depends on what you are trying to do.
=20
>
> -Bob
>
> On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
>>
>> Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
>>
>> I only see the fc19 version currently:
>>
>> Index of /releases/3.3/iso
>>
>> [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
>>
>> [DIR] Parent Directory -
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
>> 219M
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
>> 250M
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18
>> 219M
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19
>> 250M
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54
>> 252M
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Users mailing list
>> Users(a)ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Users(a)ovirt.org
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Thanks Fabian. I'll wait for the el6 version.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fabian Deutsch [mailto:fabiand@redhat.com]
Sent: 11 December 2013 11:14
To: Simon Barrett
Cc: Itamar Heim; Bob Doolittle; users(a)ovirt.org; Fabian Deutsch
Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt Node ISO
Am Mittwoch, den 11.12.2013, 10:32 +0000 schrieb Simon Barrett:
I would rather stick with the el6 iso if possible for the reasons
mentioned in the previous email. However, if there are no plans to continue with the
production of el6 ovirt-node iso's I'll switch to fc19.
So I suppose the question still stands, are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt
Node 3.0.3-1-1?
Hey Simon,
yes - it is still planned to do el6/CentOS based ovirt-node-iso releases.
Contributions and testing is always welcome.
- fabian
Many thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com]
Sent: 09 December 2013 19:47
To: Bob Doolittle; Simon Barrett; users(a)ovirt.org; Fabian Deutsch
Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt Node ISO
On 12/09/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The point of "Node" is that it should be like an appliance. You
> should not care what is "under the covers". You just use it as a
> back-end appliance that talks to oVirt. So it should not matter what
> version of OS it runs, right?
>
> If you start doing things that are particular to the OS, two major
> disadvantages come to mind:
> 1. You will start "bloating" the system by adding new dependencies.
> This dilutes the value of a minimal node that minimizes management
> requirements 2. You will diverge from what's been tested by the
> oVirt QA team. This increases the risk of your deployment.
>
> Since Node is supposed to be an appliance, I would prefer that the
> oVirt team focus their energies on making it as small and robust as
> possible, rather than putting their energy into multiple OS versions of Node.
not sure i agree. there are differences between the fedora and .el6 distro's,
especially around things like testing of backward compatibility for live migration between
different versions (for a clean upgrade path).
the fedora one covers newer features / fast moving the .el6 one is more robust /
tested.
so depends on what you are trying to do.
>
> -Bob
>
> On 12/09/2013 06:31 AM, Simon Barrett wrote:
>>
>> Are there plans to release an el6 iso for oVirt Node 3.0.3-1-1?
>>
>> I only see the fc19 version currently:
>>
>> Index of /releases/3.3/iso
>>
>> [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
>>
>> [DIR] Parent Directory -
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.el6.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
>> 219M
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 28-Aug-2013 04:56
>> 250M
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.el6.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:18
>> 219M
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.1-1.0.2.vdsm.fc19.iso 11-Sep-2013 05:19
>> 250M
>>
>> [ ] ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso 27-Nov-2013 07:54
>> 252M
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
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