Use of virtual disks

--_000_CY1PR09MB02986AF1BA90BAD8F52448A087CE0CY1PR09MB0298namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My first experience with this situation using oVirt. I do come from using VMWare and have been also been using oVirt for several= years. We've also paid for RHEV, but migration is held up at the moment. I am tryi= ng to prepare for that. My problem is how it does not appear to be so simple to utilize the VM disk= s. In VMWare it is so simple. Snapshot or not, in vSphere I can take the vi= rtual disk file and use it for another VM when needed. It doesn't make sens= e to me in oVirt. I have another entry here about my issue that lead to th= is need, where I am not able to delete snapshot files for those disks I was= attempting to live migrate and there was an issue... Now, the empty snapsh= ot files are preventing some VMs from starting. It seems I should be able t= o take the VM disk files, without the snapshots, and use them with another = VM. But, that does not appear possible from what I can tell in oVirt. I desperately need to get one specific VM going. The other two, no worries.= I was able to restore from backup, one of the effected VMs. The third is n= ot important at all and can easily by re-created. Is anyone experienced with taking VM disks from one and using them (without= snapshots) with another VM? I could really use some sort of workaround. Thanks if anyone can come up with a good answer that would help. -Robert L. --_000_CY1PR09MB02986AF1BA90BAD8F52448A087CE0CY1PR09MB0298namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"><!-- P {margin-top:0;margi= n-bottom:0;} --></style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font= -family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr"> <div>My first experience with this situation using oVirt.</div> <div>I do come from using VMWare and have been also been using oVirt for se= veral years.</div> <div>We've also paid for RHEV, but migration is held up at the moment. I am= trying to prepare for that.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>My problem is how it does not appear to be so simple to utilize the VM= disks. In VMWare it is so simple. Snapshot or not, in vSphere I can take t= he virtual disk file and use it for another VM when needed. It doesn't make= sense to me in oVirt. I have another entry here about my issue that lead to this need, where I am not abl= e to delete snapshot files for those disks I was attempting to live migrate= and there was an issue... Now, the empty snapshot files are preventing som= e VMs from starting. It seems I should be able to take the VM disk files, without the snapshots, and use them wit= h another VM. But, that does not appear possible from what I can tell in oV= irt.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I desperately need to get one specific VM going. The other two, no wor= ries. I was able to restore from backup, one of the effected VMs. The third= is not important at all and can easily by re-created.</div> <div>Is anyone experienced with taking VM disks from one and using them (wi= thout snapshots) with another VM? I could really use some sort of workaroun= d.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks if anyone can come up with a good answer that would help.</div> <div>-Robert L.<br> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_CY1PR09MB02986AF1BA90BAD8F52448A087CE0CY1PR09MB0298namp_--

Hi Robert, If I understand correctly you are trying to share disks between two VMs, In Ovirt you can set a disk as sharable by editing the disk properties. A shareable disk can be attached to multiple VMs. If you wish to detach a disk from one VM and attach it to another VM it is simple too, select the VM that hold the relevant disk and detach the disk from it, you will find the detached disk under the 'disks' tab. To attach the floating disk to another VM, select the desired VM, go to the disks tab and press 'attach'. You will see all the floating disks that exist in the data-center. I hope it helped, please ask if you have more questions. For more information, you can visit at - https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Virtual_Machine_Disks/ On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Langley, Robert <Robert.Langley@ventura.org
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My first experience with this situation using oVirt. I do come from using VMWare and have been also been using oVirt for several years. We've also paid for RHEV, but migration is held up at the moment. I am trying to prepare for that.
My problem is how it does not appear to be so simple to utilize the VM disks. In VMWare it is so simple. Snapshot or not, in vSphere I can take the virtual disk file and use it for another VM when needed. It doesn't make sense to me in oVirt. I have another entry here about my issue that lead to this need, where I am not able to delete snapshot files for those disks I was attempting to live migrate and there was an issue... Now, the empty snapshot files are preventing some VMs from starting. It seems I should be able to take the VM disk files, without the snapshots, and use them with another VM. But, that does not appear possible from what I can tell in oVirt.
I desperately need to get one specific VM going. The other two, no worries. I was able to restore from backup, one of the effected VMs. The third is not important at all and can easily by re-created. Is anyone experienced with taking VM disks from one and using them (without snapshots) with another VM? I could really use some sort of workaround.
Thanks if anyone can come up with a good answer that would help. -Robert L.
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--_000_BN1PR09MB02898BEB902D7177447C2A6187CE0BN1PR09MB0289namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right. I know about understand those features. The problem is that whenever= I try them, they fail. Constant complaints about the snapshot. Which I am = unable to delete. How else can I work with the disk files? I need something on a more advanced level. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Eyal Shenitzky <eshenitz@redhat.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 12:01:57 AM To: Langley, Robert Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Use of virtual disks Hi Robert, If I understand correctly you are trying to share disks between two VMs, In Ovirt you can set a disk as sharable by editing the disk properties. A shareable disk can be attached to multiple VMs. If you wish to detach a disk from one VM and attach it to another VM it is = simple too, select the VM that hold the relevant disk and detach the disk from it, you = will find the detached disk under the 'disks' tab. To attach the floating disk to another VM, select the desired VM, go to the= disks tab and press 'attach'. You will see all the floating disks that exist in the data-center. I hope it helped, please ask if you have more questions. For more information, you can visit at - https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Virtual_Machine_Disks/ On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Langley, Robert <Robert.Langley@ventura.or= g<mailto:Robert.Langley@ventura.org>> wrote: My first experience with this situation using oVirt. I do come from using VMWare and have been also been using oVirt for several= years. We've also paid for RHEV, but migration is held up at the moment. I am tryi= ng to prepare for that. My problem is how it does not appear to be so simple to utilize the VM disk= s. In VMWare it is so simple. Snapshot or not, in vSphere I can take the vi= rtual disk file and use it for another VM when needed. It doesn't make sens= e to me in oVirt. I have another entry here about my issue that lead to th= is need, where I am not able to delete snapshot files for those disks I was= attempting to live migrate and there was an issue... Now, the empty snapsh= ot files are preventing some VMs from starting. It seems I should be able t= o take the VM disk files, without the snapshots, and use them with another = VM. But, that does not appear possible from what I can tell in oVirt. I desperately need to get one specific VM going. The other two, no worries.= I was able to restore from backup, one of the effected VMs. The third is n= ot important at all and can easily by re-created. Is anyone experienced with taking VM disks from one and using them (without= snapshots) with another VM? I could really use some sort of workaround. Thanks if anyone can come up with a good answer that would help. -Robert L. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Regards, Eyal Shenitzky --_000_BN1PR09MB02898BEB902D7177447C2A6187CE0BN1PR09MB0289namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
<meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"> </head> <body> <div id=3D"compose-container" itemscope=3D"" itemtype=3D"https://schema.org= /EmailMessage" style=3D"direction:ltr"> <span itemprop=3D"creator" itemscope=3D"" itemtype=3D"https://schema.org/Or= ganization"><span itemprop=3D"name"></span></span> <div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Right. I know about understand those features.= The problem is that whenever I try them, they fail. Constant complaints ab= out the snapshot. Which I am unable to delete.</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">How else can I work with the disk files?</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">I need something on a more advanced level.</di= v> <div><br> </div> <div class=3D"acompli_signature">Get <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/o0ukef">Outl= ook for iOS</a></div> </div> </div> <hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" co= lor=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Eyal Shenitzky <es= henitz@redhat.com><br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 21, 2018 12:01:57 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Langley, Robert<br> <b>Cc:</b> users@ovirt.org<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [ovirt-users] Use of virtual disks</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Robert, <div><br> </div> <div>If I understand correctly you are trying to share disks between t= wo VMs,</div> <div>In Ovirt you can set a disk as sharable by editing the disk prope= rties.</div> <div>A shareable disk can be attached to multiple VMs.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>If you wish to detach a disk from one VM and attach it to another VM i= t is simple too,</div> <div>select the VM that hold the relevant disk and detach the disk from it,= you will find the detached disk under the 'disks' tab.</div> <div>To attach the floating disk to another VM, select the desired VM,= go to the disks tab and press 'attach'.</div> <div>You will see all the floating disks that exist in the data-center.</di= v> <div><br> </div> <div>I hope it helped, please ask if you have more questions.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>For more information, you can visit at - </div> <div><a href=3D"https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Virtua= l_Machine_Disks/">https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Virt= ual_Machine_Disks/</a><br> </div> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Langley, Robert= <span dir=3D"ltr"> <<a href=3D"mailto:Robert.Langley@ventura.org" target=3D"_blank">Robert.= Langley@ventura.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:1= px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div id=3D"m_-8816150340370423885divtagdefaultwrapper" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D= "font-size:12pt; color:#000000; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> <div>My first experience with this situation using oVirt.</div> <div>I do come from using VMWare and have been also been using oVirt for se= veral years.</div> <div>We've also paid for RHEV, but migration is held up at the moment. I am= trying to prepare for that.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>My problem is how it does not appear to be so simple to utilize the VM= disks. In VMWare it is so simple. Snapshot or not, in vSphere I can take t= he virtual disk file and use it for another VM when needed. It doesn't make= sense to me in oVirt. I have another entry here about my issue that lead to this need, where I am not abl= e to delete snapshot files for those disks I was attempting to live migrate= and there was an issue... Now, the empty snapshot files are preventing som= e VMs from starting. It seems I should be able to take the VM disk files, without the snapshots, and use them wit= h another VM. But, that does not appear possible from what I can tell in oV= irt.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I desperately need to get one specific VM going. The other two, no wor= ries. I was able to restore from backup, one of the effected VMs. The third= is not important at all and can easily by re-created.</div> <div>Is anyone experienced with taking VM disks from one and using them (wi= thout snapshots) with another VM? I could really use some sort of workaroun= d.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks if anyone can come up with a good answer that would help.</div> <div>-Robert L.<br> </div> </div> </div> <br> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> Users mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br> <a href=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" rel=3D"noreferrer= " target=3D"_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/users</a><= br> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear=3D"all"> <div><br> </div> -- <br> <div class=3D"gmail_signature"> <div dir=3D"ltr">Regards, <div>Eyal Shenitzky</div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_BN1PR09MB02898BEB902D7177447C2A6187CE0BN1PR09MB0289namp_--
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