
Hello, it is not clear to me the exact workflow in case of testing what in object. For sure first step is to install base node from iso. NGN has no more read only filesystem. Does this mean that I have to set up eg multipath for FC LUNs (engine and data domain) before running the engine setup via cockpit? Or when I specify FC in type of storage domain it would ask and setup automatically multipath for me? Are the ovirt repos already setup when I have installed from the iso or do I have to install ovirt-release-xx rpm? In another enviroment with block based storage domains (iSCSI) and an external engine and full CentOS hypervisors I customized vdsm creating a file /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf.d named 50_thin_block_extension_rules.conf using volume_utilization_percent = 25 volume_utilization_chunk_mb = 4096 Can I make these sort of customization in NGN without any persist command, because the file system is read write now or should I manage from cockpit or other tools instead? I'm exploring situations where NGN could be suitable better than full CentOS OS for hypervisors and I would like to know clearly advantages and limits. Thanks in advance Gianluca

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, it is not clear to me the exact workflow in case of testing what in object.
For sure first step is to install base node from iso. NGN has no more read only filesystem. Does this mean that I have to set up eg multipath for FC LUNs (engine and data domain) before running the engine setup via cockpit? Or when I specify FC in type of storage domain it would ask and setup automatically multipath for me?
No, it doesn't: HBA and mutipath are supposed to be directly configured before running hosted-engine-setup. It's exactly the same as for vlan and bonding.
Are the ovirt repos already setup when I have installed from the iso or do I have to install ovirt-release-xx rpm? In another enviroment with block based storage domains (iSCSI) and an external engine and full CentOS hypervisors I customized vdsm creating a file /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf.d named 50_thin_block_extension_rules.conf using volume_utilization_percent = 25 volume_utilization_chunk_mb = 4096
Can I make these sort of customization in NGN without any persist command, because the file system is read write now or should I manage from cockpit or other tools instead?
I'm exploring situations where NGN could be suitable better than full CentOS OS for hypervisors and I would like to know clearly advantages and limits.
Thanks in advance
Gianluca
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On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Simone Tiraboschi <stirabos@redhat.com> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, it is not clear to me the exact workflow in case of testing what in object.
For sure first step is to install base node from iso. NGN has no more read only filesystem. Does this mean that I have to set up eg multipath for FC LUNs (engine and data domain) before running the engine setup via cockpit? Or when I specify FC in type of storage domain it would ask and setup automatically multipath for me?
No, it doesn't: HBA and mutipath are supposed to be directly configured before running hosted-engine-setup. It's exactly the same as for vlan and bonding.
Ah, ok. So I can also customize my multipath.conf file on oVirt Node as desired, if storage vendor requires it, using # VDSM REVISION 1.3 # VDSM PRIVATE as I do in regular CentOS 7, correct? And if so, what is the mapping of "1.3" in VDSM REVISION line above? I didn't find reference in oVirt docs and also in RHEV kb I only found this: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/43458 that doesn't clarify much in my opinion and seems to cover version 4.x in the summary of knowledge base article, but then I don't seem to find its real application... Thanks, Gianluca

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Simone Tiraboschi <stirabos@redhat.com> wrote: Are the ovirt repos already setup when I have installed from the iso or do I have to install ovirt-release-xx rpm?
They're already ready-to-go, so engine will pick up any updates when there's available.
I'm exploring situations where NGN could be suitable better than full CentOS OS for hypervisors and I would like to know clearly advantages and limits.
The primary advantage is that it's a system which comes ready for oVirt, and the entire thing is updated in one shot, with rollback capability. So you can "yum upgrade" from 4.0.3 (for example) to 4.1.5 in one command, and go back to the old version of something doesn't work as expected. As of 4.1, we also reinstall any vendor tooling you've installed with yum, so packages "stick" across images. If all you want is a hypervisor, and you don't need the flexibility of a full CentOS host, Node is probably a good choice.
Thanks in advance
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Gianluca Cecchi < gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, it is not clear to me the exact workflow in case of testing what in object.
For sure first step is to install base node from iso. NGN has no more read only filesystem. Does this mean that I have to set up eg multipath for FC LUNs (engine and data domain) before running the engine setup via cockpit? Or when I specify FC in type of storage domain it would ask and setup automatically multipath for me?
No, it doesn't: HBA and mutipath are supposed to be directly configured before running hosted-engine-setup. It's exactly the same as for vlan and bonding.
Ah, ok. So I can also customize my multipath.conf file on oVirt Node as desired, if storage vendor requires it, using
# VDSM REVISION 1.3 # VDSM PRIVATE
as I do in regular CentOS 7, correct?
Yep, you can configure it exactly like CentOS 7. The VDSM header is not required AFAIK.
And if so, what is the mapping of "1.3" in VDSM REVISION line above? I didn't find reference in oVirt docs and also in RHEV kb I only found this: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/43458
The idea of persistence is gone in oVirt Node 4.x, so you don't need to worry about any of this.
that doesn't clarify much in my opinion and seems to cover version 4.x in the summary of knowledge base article, but then I don't seem to find its real application...
Thanks, Gianluca
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