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[ovirt-users] Re: spice options hook

by Victor Toso

Hi, On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 07:42:20AM -0000, ozmen62(a)hotmail.com wrote: > So, can you discribe how can i use streaming method on Ovirt > 4.3? Looking at the hook you posted earlier: https://github.com/oVirt/vdsm/blob/master/vdsm_hooks/spiceoptions/before_... It needs user to provide the options and for this feature to work streaming=filter or streaming=all must be giving to spice server to enable streaming. > do i need to change something on host or engine I need to > solve youtube or other video problems For mjpeg encoding, you don't need to change anything. For x264/vp8 with GStreamer, spice must be built with GStreamer option enabled. You can check if that's the case for your spice server library by running ldd in the .so file, e.g: spice (master 717ed19a) $ ldd ~/dev/lib64/libspice-server.so | grep -i gst libgstreamer-1.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgstreamer-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f393b57d000) libgstapp-1.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgstapp-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f393b568000) libgstbase-1.0.so.0 => /lib64/libgstbase-1.0.so.0 (0x00007f393b0df000) Plus, you need the plugins for encoding in your host. > Additionally, steraming needs to hardware accelerator, all > streaming apps or offers hardware acceletor for best performace As mentioned earlier, the encoding parameters are hardcoded [0] so, even if you argue that gpu is preferred, that's not currently supported but patches are welcome! [0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/spice/spice/-/blob/master/server/gstreamer... Video streaming like Youtube, you should get audio sync, lower bandwidth, etc. Cheers, Victor

5 years, 1 month

[ovirt-users] Re: spice options hook

by Victor Toso

Hi, On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:14:28PM -0000, ozmen62(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Hi, > We're using oVirt 4.3 and want to use spice streaming to better > user experience, for example youtube etc. > I've tried to use before_vm_start script, but lots of problems > came out. > 1 - on default environmet, hook script returns of no such file > or directory, because python3 does not exist on the system if i > install python3, vdsm stops working if change interpreter in > the script, vdms retuns rc=0 error code hook=114 and it does > not appear on the vm custom properties So, could you help me to > run this hook properly > we've tested > https://github.com/oVirt/vdsm/tree/master/vdsm_hooks/spiceoptions > Master and 4.3 branch returns same error code and nothing appeared on the "custom properties" > > is there anyone who is use it successfully Sorry, I can't help much on the oVirt hook/setup ... > 2 - for this experince is GPU neccessery (not vGPU) , our > server has standard 8mb onboard gpu ... but no, you don't need GPU in the host for this feature. Spice streaming in the host supports two encoders: a mjepg implementation in spice and a gstreamer one with support to mjpeg, h264 and vp8. The encoding parameters are hardcoded but I've tested them all in the past and worked well for youtube-like scenarios... but feel free to open bugs upstream if not [0] [0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/spice/spice Good luck with the hook. Cheers, Victor

5 years, 1 month

Re: [ovirt-users] poor graphic performances with spice

by David Jaša

On Po, 2015-11-02 at 11:13 +0100, Nathanaël Blanchet wrote: > Hello Jiri and David, > > > Le 02/11/2015 10:22, David Jaša a écrit : > > Hi Nathanaël, > > > > On St, 2015-10-28 at 17:06 +0100, Nathanaël Blanchet wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm studying a possibility to use ovirt as a vdi solution with centos or > >> fedora guests. But using spice is awfull > > in what sense, just a performance you mention below, or something else? > I'm used to use spice with virt-manager, and I always have been pleased > with it. > > > >> and graphics are very slow (in > >> particulary videos). You say youtube videos in bottom of the email. Is it flash or html5? Are standard and cinema-mode-sizes working OK, or all sizes are affected? Bear in mind that video is in general most cpu-heavy use case for spice because lots of work needs to be done on guest vCPU (decode, upscale to fullscreen) and host CPU (mjpeg-encode the actual video size: fullhd for any video played in full screen on full hd monitor). > Qxl drivers are installed and spice-vdagent works > >> as expected on the guest side. > > What hosts and clients do you use, what is your network environment? > ubuntu spice-client-gtk (0.22) for the client side, That's pretty old, could you update to distro with at least spice-gtk 0.26 (which itself is ~1 year old, 0.30 was released recently)? > and my hosts (latest > intel CPU and 128 GB of RAM) are centos 7.1 one connected to a FC > storage domain. The network is a gigabit one. I set my vms with 2GB of RAM. That sounds that you should be good (unless _everybody_ plays youtube in fullscreen) > > When you say centos guests, you mean centos 6 or centos 7? > both. Interesting. I'd expect rhel 6 (or KDE4 with disabled compositing on rhel 7) to be significantly better to gnome 3. > I also tested fedora 22 but I supposed that default gnome 3 shell > effects could be the reason of the slowness. The problem aren't mainly effect but it's the compositing which changes screen updates from lot of operations on limited area of screen to updates of whole screen, making lots of spice optimization pointless. Some time ago (~2 years), gnome-shell rendering was improved so that stream didn't update whole display but just the video stream area which can be detected as a stream and transferred in an optimized way. I'd bet that your issue is one of those two described above (CPU overloading or streaming detection error) but further testing is needed to find what it really is. > > > > David > > > >> However, it is amazing to see that glxgears benchmarks are good... > >> I wonder how it is possible to adopt such a vdi solution when the user > >> experience is so bad. > >> I may miss something and may need recommandations of experimented vdi > >> users :) > >> Thank you for your help. > >> > > > Ovirt is an awesome product, and I've been used to be pleased with its > great integrated quality tools, that's why I'm supposed to mistake in my > configuration. > I don't know the vdi part, but problematic is not the same compared to > the server virtualization. User should have a very good interface > experience, integrating fluidity and multimedia capabilities. > Sound redirection is okay with no latence, USB redirection works great, > but watching a youtube video is painful. > The same when moving a simple gui window, there is a big latence. > In comparison, direct RDP session on windows servers gives entire > satisfaction in graphic rendering. > Please tell me if I do or say something wrong. > Thank you for your job. > Can you see something in Xorg.0.log in the guest or in qemu log on the host? (@ /var/log/libvirt/qemu/VM_NAME.log) David

9 years, 7 months

oVirt January 2014 Updates

by Itamar Heim

1. VERSIONS - oVirt 3.3.3 in last phases http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.3_release_notes - oVirt 3.4 with another slew of features is getting into test day, beta, etc. http://red.ht/1eo9TiS 2. WORKSHOPS - Fosdem - oVirt stand wass packed as well as a virt & IaaS devroom, with many oVirt talks. more details next time. - more oVirt talks in cfgmgmtcamp and infra.next this week, including: -- Hervé Leclerc "How we build a cloud with CentOS, oVirt, and Cisco-UCS" Wednesday 5th February in Infrastructure.Next Ghent http://bit.ly/1fjTJVC -- oVirt Node being used as a Discovery Node in The Foreman project talk at cfgmgmtcamp, february 3rd http://bit.ly/1gAnneI - oVirt Korea group meeting this Saturday in Seoul Register here http://onoffmix.com/event/23134 - Open Virtualization Workshop in Tehran (26,27 February 2014) & Isfahan (5,6 March 2014) http://t.co/9PR3BxOnpd 3. USING oVirt - More details on Wind River using ovirt http://bit.ly/1i2LtLI - New Case Study: Nieuwland Geo-Informati http://www.ovirt.org/Nieuwland_case_study - oVirt Node being used as a Discovery Node in The Foreman project talk at cfgmgmtcamp, february 3rd http://bit.ly/1gAnneI 4. Users - Double the amount of emails on users mailing list- up from 800 to 1600 this month! - Karli updated how to use spice with ovirt from OS X http://www.ovirt.org/SPICE_Remote-Viewer_on_OS_X - Opaque (spice android ovirt client) v1.1.8 beta released https://plus.google.com/communities/116099119712127782216 - how to deploy windows guest agent on windows: http://bit.ly/1kr5tJo - Andrew Lau posted on working through Hosted Engine with 3.4.0 beta http://bit.ly/1eobzZw - Deep Dive into oVirt 3.3.3 by Li Jiansheng (chinese) http://slidesha.re/1eFWQ8G - Matthew Bingham posted a series of video on setting up ovirt: Install oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWT-m-oWSjQ Optional export nfs mount for oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLbPln5-2jE Initial webgui oVirt 3.3.2 Steps for storage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0_03ZICw4 Download and upload client iso to ISO_DOMAIN for oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDzTHFSmvGE

11 years, 4 months

[Users] oVirt January 2014 Updates

by Itamar Heim

1. VERSIONS - oVirt 3.3.3 in last phases http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.3_release_notes - oVirt 3.4 with another slew of features is getting into test day, beta, etc. http://red.ht/1eo9TiS 2. WORKSHOPS - Fosdem - oVirt stand wass packed as well as a virt & IaaS devroom, with many oVirt talks. more details next time. - more oVirt talks in cfgmgmtcamp and infra.next this week, including: -- Hervé Leclerc "How we build a cloud with CentOS, oVirt, and Cisco-UCS" Wednesday 5th February in Infrastructure.Next Ghent http://bit.ly/1fjTJVC -- oVirt Node being used as a Discovery Node in The Foreman project talk at cfgmgmtcamp, february 3rd http://bit.ly/1gAnneI - oVirt Korea group meeting this Saturday in Seoul Register here http://onoffmix.com/event/23134 - Open Virtualization Workshop in Tehran (26,27 February 2014) & Isfahan (5,6 March 2014) http://t.co/9PR3BxOnpd 3. USING oVirt - More details on Wind River using ovirt http://bit.ly/1i2LtLI - New Case Study: Nieuwland Geo-Informati http://www.ovirt.org/Nieuwland_case_study - oVirt Node being used as a Discovery Node in The Foreman project talk at cfgmgmtcamp, february 3rd http://bit.ly/1gAnneI 4. Users - Double the amount of emails on users mailing list- up from 800 to 1600 this month! - Karli updated how to use spice with ovirt from OS X http://www.ovirt.org/SPICE_Remote-Viewer_on_OS_X - Opaque (spice android ovirt client) v1.1.8 beta released https://plus.google.com/communities/116099119712127782216 - how to deploy windows guest agent on windows: http://bit.ly/1kr5tJo - Andrew Lau posted on working through Hosted Engine with 3.4.0 beta http://bit.ly/1eobzZw - Deep Dive into oVirt 3.3.3 by Li Jiansheng (chinese) http://slidesha.re/1eFWQ8G - Matthew Bingham posted a series of video on setting up ovirt: Install oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWT-m-oWSjQ Optional export nfs mount for oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLbPln5-2jE Initial webgui oVirt 3.3.2 Steps for storage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0_03ZICw4 Download and upload client iso to ISO_DOMAIN for oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDzTHFSmvGE

11 years, 4 months

[Engine-devel] oVirt January 2014 Updates

by Itamar Heim

1. VERSIONS - oVirt 3.3.3 in last phases http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.3_release_notes - oVirt 3.4 with another slew of features is getting into test day, beta, etc. http://red.ht/1eo9TiS 2. WORKSHOPS - Fosdem - oVirt stand wass packed as well as a virt & IaaS devroom, with many oVirt talks. more details next time. - more oVirt talks in cfgmgmtcamp and infra.next this week, including: -- Hervé Leclerc "How we build a cloud with CentOS, oVirt, and Cisco-UCS" Wednesday 5th February in Infrastructure.Next Ghent http://bit.ly/1fjTJVC -- oVirt Node being used as a Discovery Node in The Foreman project talk at cfgmgmtcamp, february 3rd http://bit.ly/1gAnneI - oVirt Korea group meeting this Saturday in Seoul Register here http://onoffmix.com/event/23134 - Open Virtualization Workshop in Tehran (26,27 February 2014) & Isfahan (5,6 March 2014) http://t.co/9PR3BxOnpd 3. USING oVirt - More details on Wind River using ovirt http://bit.ly/1i2LtLI - New Case Study: Nieuwland Geo-Informati http://www.ovirt.org/Nieuwland_case_study - oVirt Node being used as a Discovery Node in The Foreman project talk at cfgmgmtcamp, february 3rd http://bit.ly/1gAnneI 4. Users - Double the amount of emails on users mailing list- up from 800 to 1600 this month! - Karli updated how to use spice with ovirt from OS X http://www.ovirt.org/SPICE_Remote-Viewer_on_OS_X - Opaque (spice android ovirt client) v1.1.8 beta released https://plus.google.com/communities/116099119712127782216 - how to deploy windows guest agent on windows: http://bit.ly/1kr5tJo - Andrew Lau posted on working through Hosted Engine with 3.4.0 beta http://bit.ly/1eobzZw - Deep Dive into oVirt 3.3.3 by Li Jiansheng (chinese) http://slidesha.re/1eFWQ8G - Matthew Bingham posted a series of video on setting up ovirt: Install oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWT-m-oWSjQ Optional export nfs mount for oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLbPln5-2jE Initial webgui oVirt 3.3.2 Steps for storage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0_03ZICw4 Download and upload client iso to ISO_DOMAIN for oVirt 3.3.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDzTHFSmvGE

11 years, 4 months

Re: [Users] oVirt January 2014 Updates

by Karli Sjöberg

Skickat från min iPhone > 3 feb 2014 kl. 13:29 skrev "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>: > > 1. VERSIONS > - oVirt 3.3.3 in last phases > http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.3_release_notes > > - oVirt 3.4 with another slew of features is getting into test day, > beta, etc. > http://red.ht/1eo9TiS > > 2. WORKSHOPS > - Fosdem - oVirt stand wass packed as well as a virt & IaaS devroom, > with many oVirt talks. more details next time. > > - more oVirt talks in cfgmgmtcamp and infra.next this week, including: > > -- Hervé Leclerc "How we build a cloud with CentOS, oVirt, and > Cisco-UCS" Wednesday 5th February in Infrastructure.Next Ghent > http://bit.ly/1fjTJVC > > -- oVirt Node being used as a Discovery Node in The Foreman project > talk at cfgmgmtcamp, february 3rd > http://bit.ly/1gAnneI > > - oVirt Korea group meeting this Saturday in Seoul > Register here http://onoffmix.com/event/23134 > > - Open Virtualization Workshop in Tehran (26,27 February 2014) & > Isfahan (5,6 March 2014) > http://t.co/9PR3BxOnpd > > 3. USING oVirt > > - More details on Wind River using ovirt > http://bit.ly/1i2LtLI > > - New Case Study: Nieuwland Geo-Informati > http://www.ovirt.org/Nieuwland_case_study > > - oVirt Node being used as a Discovery Node in The Foreman project > talk at cfgmgmtcamp, february 3rd > http://bit.ly/1gAnneI > > 4. Users > - Double the amount of emails on users mailing list- up from 800 to > 1600 this month! > > - Karli updated how to use spice with ovirt from OS X > http://www.ovirt.org/SPICE_Remote-Viewer_on_OS_X > > - Opaque (spice android ovirt client) v1.1.8 beta released > https://plus.google.com/communities/116099119712127782216 > > - how to deploy windows guest agent on windows: > http://bit.ly/1kr5tJo This is also explained at: http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Guest_Agent_For_Windows /K > > - Andrew Lau posted on working through Hosted Engine with 3.4.0 beta > http://bit.ly/1eobzZw > > - Deep Dive into oVirt 3.3.3 by Li Jiansheng (chinese) > http://slidesha.re/1eFWQ8G > > - Matthew Bingham posted a series of video on setting up ovirt: > Install oVirt 3.3.2 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWT-m-oWSjQ > > Optional export nfs mount for oVirt 3.3.2 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLbPln5-2jE > > Initial webgui oVirt 3.3.2 Steps for storage > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0_03ZICw4 > > Download and upload client iso to ISO_DOMAIN for oVirt 3.3.2 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDzTHFSmvGE > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

11 years, 4 months

[ovirt-users] Re: VDI

by Leo David

Thank you very much for the informations. I'm am sorry for my lack of knowledge, but the vGPU / vm graphical performance part is a bit confusing for me at the moment. As far as i've understood, if some real decent graphical performance is needed for the vms, the only proper way is to install a grid supported gpu card on the hypervisor, and have the "slices" assigned to the vms. A rough look show that this will add at least 4k - 5k dollars per node... Just as a reference, its only about "office type" vdi's that only do web browsing and sometimes youtube videos / skype calls. Any thoughts for a more less expensive way to achieve this ? Again, thank you very much ! On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:22 PM Alex McWhirter <Alex(a)triadic.us> wrote: > We use customized versions of spice / kvm. Same versions ovirt ships with > for compatibility reasons, with audio patches on the kvm side and spice > patches for vp8 encoding the video streams. We've been meaning to make the > repo for our custom patched versions public for a while, if you are > interested i can accelerate that. Note, you also need patched versions of > spice client if yours wasn't build with vp8 support, we have those too. > > On the experimental side we have another in-progress set of patches that > enable h264 encoding in spice, hardware accelerated with AMD W5100's, but > this requires a lot of new software to be installed and a new kernel, > CentOS 8 should fix most of that, so we'll probably re-base and release on > that when the time is right. > > The GPU's are not used for the guests at all, we only use them for the > h264 encoding. AMD was picked to avoid proprietary drivers and stream > limits. No RAM / SR-IOV needed, if you want 3d support you will be looking > more for Nvidia-GRID. > > > Anyways, with just the patched software installed and some custom > settings, video playback is about 95% the quality of native, takes about > 40mbit/s per client to stream it. Audio has the occasional stutter, but > it's not bad. > > > On 2019-10-06 05:09, Leo David wrote: > > Thank you for sharing the informations Alex, they are very helpfull. I am > now able to get sound from the vms, although performance is pretty poor > even with "adjust for performance" setting in Win10. Cannot even talk > about youtube video playing - freezing and crackling. > Could you please be so kind to share the following infos: > 1. Have you upgraded the "spice-server" installed on the hosts with a > newer version than 1.4.0 ? If so, could you provide me how could I get > these packages ? > 2. What graphic card have you used for getting better graphic performance > with the vms ? Im trying to understand what "accepted" card could I use > with my 1U chassis servers... > 3. Is it only needed to install the card and the platform will alocate > physical video memory to "desktop" vms ? ( Will the card RAM > be automatically shared across the desktop tyoe vms running on top of the > host ? ) > 4. Is it necesarilly to activate sr-iov in the hosts bios or any other > platform configurations ? > > I am really sorry for asking too many things, but im just trying to get > these vdi vms working at least decent... > Thank you so much ! > > Leo > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: <alex(a)triadic.us> > Date: Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: VDI > To: Leo David <leoalex(a)gmail.com> > > > Audio should just work as long as the VM is of the desktop type. > > On Sep 24, 2019 6:50 AM, Leo David <leoalex(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you Alex, > When you say "gpu backed" are you referring to sr-iov to share same gpu > to multiple vms ? > Any thoughts regarding passing audio form the vm to the client ? > Did you do any update of the spice-server on the hosts ? > > Thanks, > > Leo > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:01 PM <alex(a)triadic.us> wrote: > > I believe a lot of the package updates in CentOS 8 will solve some of the > issues. > > But for now we get around them by disabling all visual effects on our VMS. > If you are gpu backing the VMS with something like Nvidia grid the issues > are non existent, but for non gpu backed VMS currently disabling all the > effects is a must. > > We deploy the changes via gpo directly to the registry, so they take > effect on first VM boot. > > On Sep 24, 2019 2:03 AM, Leo David <leoalex(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you Alex from my side as well, very usefull information. I am the > middle of vdi implementation as well, and i'm having issues with the spice > console since 4.2, and it seems that latest 4.3 is still having the > problem. > What am i confrunting is: > - spice console is very slaggy and slow for Win10 vms ( not even talking > about running videos..) > - i can't find a way to get audio from the vm > At the moment i am running 4.3, latest virt-viewer installed on the > client, and latest qxl-dod driver installed on the vm. > Any thoughts on solving video performance and audio redirection ? > Thank you again, > > Leo > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 22:53 Alex McWhirter <Alex(a)triadic.us> wrote: > > To achieve that all you need to do is create a template of the desktop > base vm, make sure the vm type is set to desktop. Afterwards just create > new vms from that template. As long as the VM type is set to desktop each > new VM will use a qcow overlay on top of the base image. > > Taking this a step further you can then create VM pools from said > template, allowing users to dynamically be assigned a new VM on login. > Granted pools are usually stateless, so you need to have network file > storage. We use pools for windows 10 VDI instances, where we use sysprep to > autojoin the new pool vm to the domain where redirected folders are already > setup. > > For VDI only use spice protocol. By default we found spice to be semi > lackluster, so we do apply custom settings and we have recompiled spice on > both servers and clients with h264 support. This is not 100% necessary, but > makes things like youtube much more usable. We have also backported some > audio patches to KVM. CentOS 8 should resolve a lot of these customizations > that we've had to do. > > > As far as updating, pretty much. We create a VM from the template, update > it, then push it back as a new version of the template. The pools are set > to always use the latest template version. Users have to log out, then back > in to the VDI system in order to get the new image as logging out will > destroy the users current instance and create a new one on log in. > > > On 2019-09-23 15:16, Fabio Marzocca wrote: > > Hi Alex, thanks for answering. > > I am approaching and studying oVirt in order to propose the solution to a > customer as a replacement for a commercial solution they have now. > They only need Desktop virtualization. > Sorry for the silly question, but I can't find a way to deploy a VM > (template) to users as a "linked-clone", meaning that the users' image > still refers to the original image but modification are written (and > afterwards read) from a new location. This technique is called > Copy-on-write. > Can this be achieved with oVirt? > > > Then, what is the Best Practice to update WIndows OS for the all the > users? Currently they simply "check-out" the Gold Image, update it and > check-in, while all users are running... > > Fabio > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:04 PM Alex McWhirter <Alex(a)triadic.us> wrote: > > yes, we do. All spice, with some customizations done at source level for > spice / kvm packages. > > > On 2019-09-23 13:44, Fabio Marzocca wrote: > > Is there anyone who uses oVirt as a full VDI environment? I would have a > bunch of questions... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org > Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ > oVirt Code of Conduct: > https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ > List Archives: > https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/D44YB5VOKNB... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org > Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ > oVirt Code of Conduct: > https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ > List Archives: > https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/DWY46KJGSYJ... > > > > -- > Best regards, Leo David > > > > -- > Best regards, Leo David > > > -- Best regards, Leo David

5 years, 8 months

[ovirt-users] Re: VDI

by Leo David

Thank you for sharing the informations Alex, they are very helpfull. I am now able to get sound from the vms, although performance is pretty poor even with "adjust for performance" setting in Win10. Cannot even talk about youtube video playing - freezing and crackling. Could you please be so kind to share the following infos: 1. Have you upgraded the "spice-server" installed on the hosts with a newer version than 1.4.0 ? If so, could you provide me how could I get these packages ? 2. What graphic card have you used for getting better graphic performance with the vms ? Im trying to understand what "accepted" card could I use with my 1U chassis servers... 3. Is it only needed to install the card and the platform will alocate physical video memory to "desktop" vms ? ( Will the card RAM be automatically shared across the desktop tyoe vms running on top of the host ? ) 4. Is it necesarilly to activate sr-iov in the hosts bios or any other platform configurations ? I am really sorry for asking too many things, but im just trying to get these vdi vms working at least decent... Thank you so much ! Leo ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <alex(a)triadic.us> Date: Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Re: VDI To: Leo David <leoalex(a)gmail.com> Audio should just work as long as the VM is of the desktop type. On Sep 24, 2019 6:50 AM, Leo David <leoalex(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Alex, When you say "gpu backed" are you referring to sr-iov to share same gpu to multiple vms ? Any thoughts regarding passing audio form the vm to the client ? Did you do any update of the spice-server on the hosts ? Thanks, Leo On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:01 PM <alex(a)triadic.us> wrote: I believe a lot of the package updates in CentOS 8 will solve some of the issues. But for now we get around them by disabling all visual effects on our VMS. If you are gpu backing the VMS with something like Nvidia grid the issues are non existent, but for non gpu backed VMS currently disabling all the effects is a must. We deploy the changes via gpo directly to the registry, so they take effect on first VM boot. On Sep 24, 2019 2:03 AM, Leo David <leoalex(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Alex from my side as well, very usefull information. I am the middle of vdi implementation as well, and i'm having issues with the spice console since 4.2, and it seems that latest 4.3 is still having the problem. What am i confrunting is: - spice console is very slaggy and slow for Win10 vms ( not even talking about running videos..) - i can't find a way to get audio from the vm At the moment i am running 4.3, latest virt-viewer installed on the client, and latest qxl-dod driver installed on the vm. Any thoughts on solving video performance and audio redirection ? Thank you again, Leo On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 22:53 Alex McWhirter <Alex(a)triadic.us> wrote: To achieve that all you need to do is create a template of the desktop base vm, make sure the vm type is set to desktop. Afterwards just create new vms from that template. As long as the VM type is set to desktop each new VM will use a qcow overlay on top of the base image. Taking this a step further you can then create VM pools from said template, allowing users to dynamically be assigned a new VM on login. Granted pools are usually stateless, so you need to have network file storage. We use pools for windows 10 VDI instances, where we use sysprep to autojoin the new pool vm to the domain where redirected folders are already setup. For VDI only use spice protocol. By default we found spice to be semi lackluster, so we do apply custom settings and we have recompiled spice on both servers and clients with h264 support. This is not 100% necessary, but makes things like youtube much more usable. We have also backported some audio patches to KVM. CentOS 8 should resolve a lot of these customizations that we've had to do. As far as updating, pretty much. We create a VM from the template, update it, then push it back as a new version of the template. The pools are set to always use the latest template version. Users have to log out, then back in to the VDI system in order to get the new image as logging out will destroy the users current instance and create a new one on log in. On 2019-09-23 15:16, Fabio Marzocca wrote: Hi Alex, thanks for answering. I am approaching and studying oVirt in order to propose the solution to a customer as a replacement for a commercial solution they have now. They only need Desktop virtualization. Sorry for the silly question, but I can't find a way to deploy a VM (template) to users as a "linked-clone", meaning that the users' image still refers to the original image but modification are written (and afterwards read) from a new location. This technique is called Copy-on-write. Can this be achieved with oVirt? Then, what is the Best Practice to update WIndows OS for the all the users? Currently they simply "check-out" the Gold Image, update it and check-in, while all users are running... Fabio On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:04 PM Alex McWhirter <Alex(a)triadic.us> wrote: yes, we do. All spice, with some customizations done at source level for spice / kvm packages. On 2019-09-23 13:44, Fabio Marzocca wrote: Is there anyone who uses oVirt as a full VDI environment? I would have a bunch of questions... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/D44YB5VOKNB... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users(a)ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/DWY46KJGSYJ... -- Best regards, Leo David -- Best regards, Leo David

5 years, 8 months

Re: [ovirt-users] engine upgrade 4.0 => 4.1, no more engine console available

by Martin Sivak

Hi Nelson, sorry to not tell you sooner, but we are already busy looking into it. Opening a bug would be a good move as would be attaching the hosted engine agent logs (/var/log/ovirt-hosted-engine-ha/agent.log iirc) from before and after the upgrade. Best regards -- Martin Sivak SLA / oVirt On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Nelson Lameiras < nelson.lameiras(a)lyra-network.com> wrote: > It seems that there are at least 3 independant persons having this > issue... > > Would it be possible to have a "official" response from redhat ? > Is it normal that there is no more console (SPICE) on engine vm after > upgrade to 4.1? Should I open a bug? > > cordialement, regards, > > <https://www.lyra-network.com/> > Nelson LAMEIRAS > Ingénieur Systèmes et Réseaux / Systems and Networks engineer > Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 <+33%205%2032%2009%2009%2070> > nelson.lameiras(a)lyra-network.com > www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu <https://payzen.eu> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrVl1CO_Jlu3KbiRH-tQ_vA> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/lyra-network_2> > <https://twitter.com/LyraNetwork> > <https://payzen.eu> > ------------------------------ > Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Labège, FRANCE > > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Резников А.А." <reznikov_aa(a)soskol.com> > *To: *"ovirt users" <Users(a)ovirt.org> > *Sent: *Monday, March 27, 2017 10:06:31 AM > *Subject: *Re: [ovirt-users] engine upgrade 4.1.0 => 4.1.1, no more > engine console available > > 24.03.2017 17:11, Nelson Lameiras пишет: > > Hello, > > When upgrading my test setup from 4.0 to 4.1, my engine vm lost it's > console (from SPICE to None in GUI) > > My test setup : > 2 manually built hosts using centos 7.3, ovirt 4.1 > 1 manually built hosted engine centos 7.3, oVirt 4.1.0.4-el7, accessible > with SPICE console via GUI > > I updated ovirt-engine from 4.1.0 to 4.1.1 by doing on engine : > - yum update > - engine-setup > - reboot engine > > When accessing 4.1.1 GUI, Graphics is set to "None" on "Virtual Machines" > page, with "console button" greyed out (all other VMs have the same > Graphics set to the same value as before) > I tried to edit engine VM settings, and console options are same as before > (SPLICE, QXL). > > I'm hopping this is not a new feature, since if we loose network on > engine, console is the only way to debug... > > Is this a bug? > > ps. I was able to reproduce this bug 2 times > > cordialement, regards, > > <https://www.lyra-network.com/> > Nelson LAMEIRAS > Ingénieur Systèmes et Réseaux / Systems and Networks engineer > Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 <+33%205%2032%2009%2009%2070> > nelson.lameiras(a)lyra-network.com > www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu <https://payzen.eu> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrVl1CO_Jlu3KbiRH-tQ_vA> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/lyra-network_2> > <https://twitter.com/LyraNetwork> > <https://payzen.eu> > ------------------------------ > Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Labège, FRANCE > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing listUsers@ovirt.orghttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > I confirm, on my test lab with 4.1.1 the console button is gray. > Please, screenshot http://nimb.ws/8mXFoA > > Thanks, Alex. > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >

8 years, 2 months

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