-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 07/02/2013 11:38 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
On 07/02/2013 02:33 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
It appears I am alone in having concerns about this so I would go ahead and request the project license as you proposed.
FWIW, you can *always* figure I have concern about using non-FLOSS tools in an open source project. I like learning from history and past mistakes.
Bottom line is, if people like us (and our engineering and product managers) don't step up to the line to deliver open solutions for our development needs, then we continue to fall behind closed-but-ready-today solutions in the drive toward deliverable dates.
Every decision to purchase a closed solution instead of writing or fixing an open solution hurts the entire ecosystem. It's behavior we can expect at the corporate layer, but it shouldn't push its way up to the community project layer.
The choice here, as I understand it, is for Liran & his team to buy a license so that they are the only ones to have access to this tool, or to request a site license for developers of oVirt so that anyone in the project has access. In the former case, we avoid the risk that our build or test processes depend on this tool, but lose the potential benefit to other community members to have the use of this tool. Apparently there is not, at this time, an equivalent open source tool. I think requesting a project license, and then being wary not to depend on this tool in any way to be able to participate in the project, is an acceptable middle ground. Cheers, Dave. - -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR091tAAoJECd1qeknDCggXF0IAMG/YCM8ESF9hG7x/sXrW65B MubdZAvN/PAQ9JQH2joXqaMjb1FiuofnLsGnVpy89RHVxZFFVyo2w34zey7+OFhZ KNcOXlz/IybhZNS6Or3R5kIIaUxhyS5F3HHqrOhwSd1H3MCkr9eEluA59cewLeYw co3cGY/GwaxEU4Mm5vx+87HEvkqnE04ipvqYyYqfyYeoDKiLnmfI+3y5DXceZs4O 7CEYYjfvNNXc/YuyZdBscJ9d5Z6T3EgnYIM7YzEzBk09RS2DfzBD+HES/ZA73pgF MnHPHvjNvwRh1j925CCWN5Oc0h4p7gM05ar8DOHtjc9fFLCgEPQUrB78TaP16cU= =o6HT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----