Submitting Kimchi project as an oVirt incubator project (V2)
Hi all, It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote? Thanks! -- Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com> IBM Linux Technology Center
Hi, On 09/10/2013 05:23 PM, Adam Litke wrote:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
I think Kimchi would be a great addition to the family, it fills out the single host management need well. I'm all in favour. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
On 09/10/2013 12:50 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
On 09/10/2013 05:23 PM, Adam Litke wrote:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
I think Kimchi would be a great addition to the family, it fills out the single host management need well. I'm all in favour.
Regards, Dave.
+1 from me as well (though I'm not a board member). We're already planning on it being incorporated with oVirt Node. It's a proposed feature for the 3.1 release of Node [1]. [1] http://www.ovirt.org/Node_3.1_release-management
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:58:49PM -0400, Mike Burns wrote:
On 09/10/2013 12:50 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
On 09/10/2013 05:23 PM, Adam Litke wrote:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
I think Kimchi would be a great addition to the family, it fills out the single host management need well. I'm all in favour.
Regards, Dave.
+1 from me as well (though I'm not a board member).
We're already planning on it being incorporated with oVirt Node. It's a proposed feature for the 3.1 release of Node [1].
Wow, you guys move fast :) I played around with building a node that contains the kimchi rpm. Main initial issue is that we are not storing dynamic state in a persisted location. Please let me know what else I can do to make kimchi a better ovirt-node resident. I read the plugins page and found that some work may be needed in the spec file to make kimchi installable as a software collection (/opt/kimchi). -- Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com> IBM Linux Technology Center
On 09/10/2013 07:58 PM, Mike Burns wrote:
On 09/10/2013 12:50 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
On 09/10/2013 05:23 PM, Adam Litke wrote:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
I think Kimchi would be a great addition to the family, it fills out the single host management need well. I'm all in favour.
Regards, Dave.
+1 from me as well (though I'm not a board member).
+1, As I voted in the previous cycle.
We're already planning on it being incorporated with oVirt Node. It's a proposed feature for the 3.1 release of Node [1].
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/Node_3.1_release-management _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board
* agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]:
Hi all,
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion. I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt. -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh@us.ibm.com
Hi, On 09/11/2013 08:23 PM, Ryan Harper wrote:
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
For reminder, board members with a vote are (according to http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Board): Alexander Graf – SUSE, Strategic member Ayal Baron – Project, vdsm Carl Trieloff – Mentor Christopher Wright – Red Hat, Strategic member Itamar Heim – Project, engine-core Jun Nakajima – Intel, Strategic member Jon Benedict – NetApp, Strategic member Livnat Peer – Project, engine-core Michael Enescu – Cisco, Strategic member Perry Myers – Project, node Ryan Harper – IBM, Strategic member Scott Moser – Canonical, Strategic member I seem to recall Ayal and Perry naming replacements for the project manager seats, but it wasn't recorded in the wiki page. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
On 09/12/2013 04:49 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
On 09/11/2013 08:23 PM, Ryan Harper wrote:
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
For reminder, board members with a vote are (according to http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Board):
Alexander Graf – SUSE, Strategic member Ayal Baron – Project, vdsm Carl Trieloff – Mentor Christopher Wright – Red Hat, Strategic member Itamar Heim – Project, engine-core Jun Nakajima – Intel, Strategic member Jon Benedict – NetApp, Strategic member Livnat Peer – Project, engine-core Michael Enescu – Cisco, Strategic member Perry Myers – Project, node Ryan Harper – IBM, Strategic member Scott Moser – Canonical, Strategic member
I seem to recall Ayal and Perry naming replacements for the project manager seats, but it wasn't recorded in the wiki page.
Regards, Dave.
+1 from me.
On 09/12/2013 04:54 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 09/12/2013 04:49 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
On 09/11/2013 08:23 PM, Ryan Harper wrote:
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
For reminder, board members with a vote are (according to http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Board):
Alexander Graf – SUSE, Strategic member Ayal Baron – Project, vdsm Carl Trieloff – Mentor Christopher Wright – Red Hat, Strategic member Itamar Heim – Project, engine-core Jun Nakajima – Intel, Strategic member Jon Benedict – NetApp, Strategic member Livnat Peer – Project, engine-core Michael Enescu – Cisco, Strategic member Perry Myers – Project, node Ryan Harper – IBM, Strategic member Scott Moser – Canonical, Strategic member
I seem to recall Ayal and Perry naming replacements for the project manager seats, but it wasn't recorded in the wiki page.
Regards, Dave.
+1 from me.
+1
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* Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote:
* agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given others voted here... +1
On 09/20/2013 12:22 AM, Chris Wright wrote:
* Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote:
* agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given others voted here...
+1
Proxy vote for Perry Myers: +1
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* Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com> [2013-09-19 23:26]:
* Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote:
* agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given others voted here...
Indeed, sorry about that; but this thread is as good as another. +1 -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com
* Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-20 08:30]:
* Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com> [2013-09-19 23:26]:
* Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote:
* agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given others voted here...
Indeed, sorry about that; but this thread is as good as another.
+1
After two weeks time for voting, the final tally is: Board Votes: 5 For, 0 Against, 7 Abstain. -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com
On 09/27/2013 06:05 PM, Ryan Harper wrote:
* Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-20 08:30]:
* Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com> [2013-09-19 23:26]:
* Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote:
* agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given others voted here...
Indeed, sorry about that; but this thread is as good as another.
+1
After two weeks time for voting, the final tally is:
Board Votes: 5 For, 0 Against, 7 Abstain.
ok, so moving on to practical matters - name for repo? kimchi? ovirt-kimchi, etc.?
board-bounces@ovirt.org wrote on 09/28/2013 03:24:32 PM:
From: Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> To: Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, board <board@ovirt.org> Date: 09/28/2013 03:24 PM Subject: Re: Submitting Kimchi project as an oVirt incubator project (V2) Sent by: board-bounces@ovirt.org
On 09/27/2013 06:05 PM, Ryan Harper wrote:
* Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-20 08:30]:
* Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com> [2013-09-19 23:26]:
* Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote:
* agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]:
It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like there has been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can vote?
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given others voted here...
Indeed, sorry about that; but this thread is as good as another.
+1
After two weeks time for voting, the final tally is:
Board Votes: 5 For, 0 Against, 7 Abstain.
ok, so moving on to practical matters - name for repo? kimchi? ovirt-kimchi, etc.? Well, the project is already on github.. so assuming we would just 'link' to it.. put some wrapper into ovirt.. I don't see a need switch names.. at least for now.. unless someone finds some objections.. legal/cultural, etc Not clear in my mind all of what is needed for bringing it into fold as an incubator from the infrastructure logistics...
The 1.0 release is tentatively targeted for mid-October.. maybe that's a good time to align. ?? Cheers, Frank ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Novak ( 诺帆 nuò、fān ) STSM, SCEM Open Hypervisor IBM Linux Technology Center US: fnovak@us.ibm.com ; Notes: Frank Novak/Watson/IBM @IBMUS cell : 919-671-7966 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On 09/29/2013 12:28 AM, Frank Novak wrote:
board-bounces@ovirt.org wrote on 09/28/2013 03:24:32 PM:
From: Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> To: Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, board <board@ovirt.org> Date: 09/28/2013 03:24 PM Subject: Re: Submitting Kimchi project as an oVirt incubator project (V2) Sent by: board-bounces@ovirt.org
* Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-20 08:30]:
* Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com> [2013-09-19 23:26]:
* Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote:
* agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]: > It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into > oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like
On 09/27/2013 06:05 PM, Ryan Harper wrote: there has
> been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What > are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a > decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can > vote?
In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of comments for inclusion.
I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given others voted here...
Indeed, sorry about that; but this thread is as good as another.
+1
After two weeks time for voting, the final tally is:
Board Votes: 5 For, 0 Against, 7 Abstain.
ok, so moving on to practical matters - name for repo? kimchi? ovirt-kimchi, etc.? Well, the project is already on github.. so assuming we would just 'link' to it.. put some wrapper into ovirt.. I don't see a need switch names.. at least for now.. unless someone finds some objections.. legal/cultural, etc Not clear in my mind all of what is needed for bringing it into fold as an incubator from the infrastructure logistics...
The 1.0 release is tentatively targeted for mid-October.. maybe that's a good time to align. ??
Cheers, Frank
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Novak ( 诺帆 nuò、fān ) STSM, SCEM Open Hypervisor IBM Linux Technology Center US: fnovak@us.ibm.com ; Notes: Frank Novak/Watson/IBM @IBMUS cell : 919-671-7966 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
the way other projects work is we use gerrit.ovirt.org as the master git, and we mirror all projects to github.com/ovirt (I assume we can mirror to kimchi-project as well. though it will cause some noise in the gerrit log) is the intent to continue with github as the primary repo and not use gerrit.ovirt.org?
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 07:42:47AM +0300, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 09/29/2013 12:28 AM, Frank Novak wrote:
board-bounces@ovirt.org wrote on 09/28/2013 03:24:32 PM:
From: Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> To: Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, board <board@ovirt.org> Date: 09/28/2013 03:24 PM Subject: Re: Submitting Kimchi project as an oVirt incubator project (V2) Sent by: board-bounces@ovirt.org
* Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-20 08:30]:
* Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com> [2013-09-19 23:26]:
* Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote: > * agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]: >> It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into >> oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like
On 09/27/2013 06:05 PM, Ryan Harper wrote: there has
>> been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What >> are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a >> decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can >> vote? > > In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we > have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of > comments for inclusion. > > I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt.
I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given others voted here...
Indeed, sorry about that; but this thread is as good as another.
+1
After two weeks time for voting, the final tally is:
Board Votes: 5 For, 0 Against, 7 Abstain.
ok, so moving on to practical matters - name for repo? kimchi? ovirt-kimchi, etc.? Well, the project is already on github.. so assuming we would just 'link' to it.. put some wrapper into ovirt.. I don't see a need switch names.. at least for now.. unless someone finds some objections.. legal/cultural, etc Not clear in my mind all of what is needed for bringing it into fold as an incubator from the infrastructure logistics...
The 1.0 release is tentatively targeted for mid-October.. maybe that's a good time to align. ??
Cheers, Frank
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Novak ( 诺帆 nuò、fān ) STSM, SCEM Open Hypervisor IBM Linux Technology Center US: fnovak@us.ibm.com ; Notes: Frank Novak/Watson/IBM @IBMUS cell : 919-671-7966 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
the way other projects work is we use gerrit.ovirt.org as the master git, and we mirror all projects to github.com/ovirt (I assume we can mirror to kimchi-project as well. though it will cause some noise in the gerrit log) is the intent to continue with github as the primary repo and not use gerrit.ovirt.org?
We are having success operating with a traditional code submission and review model (ie. all patches and review occurring on the mailing list) and would prefer to continue with that model. Today we are using Google Groups for a mailing list. I would actually prefer to move over to oVirt's mailman infrastructure if possible (kimchi-devel). It would be nice to host built rpms and debs on ovirt.org and potentially make use of jenkins, but we'll have to explore if this can be done without an ovirt gerrit repo. We would also be open to some branding changes (use of the oVirt logo, interface CSS enhancements, etc) but the most important technical pieces are IMO: * Synchronizing on a VM "hand-off" protocol so kimchi VMs can be easily transfered into an existing oVirt data center. * Packaging kimchi as an official oVirt Node plugin * Supporting the Spice protocol in kimchi Can you think of any other integration points that I may have missed? -- Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com> IBM Linux Technology Center
On Sep 30, 2013, at 14:50 , Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 07:42:47AM +0300, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 09/29/2013 12:28 AM, Frank Novak wrote:
board-bounces@ovirt.org wrote on 09/28/2013 03:24:32 PM:
From: Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> To: Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, board <board@ovirt.org> Date: 09/28/2013 03:24 PM Subject: Re: Submitting Kimchi project as an oVirt incubator project (V2) Sent by: board-bounces@ovirt.org
* Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-20 08:30]:
* Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com> [2013-09-19 23:26]: > * Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote: >> * agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]: >>> It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into >>> oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like
On 09/27/2013 06:05 PM, Ryan Harper wrote: there has
>>> been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What >>> are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a >>> decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can >>> vote? >> >> In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we >> have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of >> comments for inclusion. >> >> I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt. > > I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given > others voted here...
Indeed, sorry about that; but this thread is as good as another.
+1
After two weeks time for voting, the final tally is:
Board Votes: 5 For, 0 Against, 7 Abstain.
ok, so moving on to practical matters - name for repo? kimchi? ovirt-kimchi, etc.? Well, the project is already on github.. so assuming we would just 'link' to it.. put some wrapper into ovirt.. I don't see a need switch names.. at least for now.. unless someone finds some objections.. legal/cultural, etc Not clear in my mind all of what is needed for bringing it into fold as an incubator from the infrastructure logistics...
The 1.0 release is tentatively targeted for mid-October.. maybe that's a good time to align. ??
Cheers, Frank
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Novak ( 诺帆 nuò、fān ) STSM, SCEM Open Hypervisor IBM Linux Technology Center US: fnovak@us.ibm.com ; Notes: Frank Novak/Watson/IBM @IBMUS cell : 919-671-7966 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
the way other projects work is we use gerrit.ovirt.org as the master git, and we mirror all projects to github.com/ovirt (I assume we can mirror to kimchi-project as well. though it will cause some noise in the gerrit log) is the intent to continue with github as the primary repo and not use gerrit.ovirt.org?
We are having success operating with a traditional code submission and review model (ie. all patches and review occurring on the mailing list) and would prefer to continue with that model. Today we are using Google Groups for a mailing list. I would actually prefer to move over to oVirt's mailman infrastructure if possible (kimchi-devel). It would be nice to host built rpms and debs on ovirt.org and potentially make use of jenkins, but we'll have to explore if this can be done without an ovirt gerrit repo.
We would also be open to some branding changes (use of the oVirt logo, interface CSS enhancements, etc) but the most important technical pieces are IMO:
* Synchronizing on a VM "hand-off" protocol so kimchi VMs can be easily transfered into an existing oVirt data center. * Packaging kimchi as an official oVirt Node plugin * Supporting the Spice protocol in kimchi
perhaps the integration with the guest agent. Thanks, michal
Can you think of any other integration points that I may have missed?
-- Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com> IBM Linux Technology Center
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On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 03:47:21PM +0200, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
On Sep 30, 2013, at 14:50 , Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 07:42:47AM +0300, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 09/29/2013 12:28 AM, Frank Novak wrote:
board-bounces@ovirt.org wrote on 09/28/2013 03:24:32 PM:
From: Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> To: Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, board <board@ovirt.org> Date: 09/28/2013 03:24 PM Subject: Re: Submitting Kimchi project as an oVirt incubator project (V2) Sent by: board-bounces@ovirt.org
* Ryan Harper <ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-20 08:30]: > * Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com> [2013-09-19 23:26]: >> * Ryan Harper (ryanh@us.ibm.com) wrote: >>> * agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com <agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2013-09-10 10:28]: >>>> It has been some time since we last discussed incubating Kimchi into >>>> oVirt so I'd like to rekindle the discussion. It seems like
On 09/27/2013 06:05 PM, Ryan Harper wrote: there has
>>>> been general agreement that the two projects are complimentary. What >>>> are the next steps? Does the board require more information to make a >>>> decision? Is there any work that needs to be done before the board can >>>> vote? >>> >>> In the past, we've held discussion open for a few weeks, and then we >>> have a VOTE thread. I think we've had enough time for review of >>> comments for inclusion. >>> >>> I'd like to call for a VOTE thread for inclusion of Kimchi in oVirt. >> >> I wasn't clear if you were planning to spawn a VOTE thread...given >> others voted here... > > Indeed, sorry about that; but this thread is as good as another. > > +1
After two weeks time for voting, the final tally is:
Board Votes: 5 For, 0 Against, 7 Abstain.
ok, so moving on to practical matters - name for repo? kimchi? ovirt-kimchi, etc.? Well, the project is already on github.. so assuming we would just 'link' to it.. put some wrapper into ovirt.. I don't see a need switch names.. at least for now.. unless someone finds some objections.. legal/cultural, etc Not clear in my mind all of what is needed for bringing it into fold as an incubator from the infrastructure logistics...
The 1.0 release is tentatively targeted for mid-October.. maybe that's a good time to align. ??
Cheers, Frank
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Novak ( 诺帆 nuò、fān ) STSM, SCEM Open Hypervisor IBM Linux Technology Center US: fnovak@us.ibm.com ; Notes: Frank Novak/Watson/IBM @IBMUS cell : 919-671-7966 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
the way other projects work is we use gerrit.ovirt.org as the master git, and we mirror all projects to github.com/ovirt (I assume we can mirror to kimchi-project as well. though it will cause some noise in the gerrit log) is the intent to continue with github as the primary repo and not use gerrit.ovirt.org?
We are having success operating with a traditional code submission and review model (ie. all patches and review occurring on the mailing list) and would prefer to continue with that model. Today we are using Google Groups for a mailing list. I would actually prefer to move over to oVirt's mailman infrastructure if possible (kimchi-devel). It would be nice to host built rpms and debs on ovirt.org and potentially make use of jenkins, but we'll have to explore if this can be done without an ovirt gerrit repo.
We would also be open to some branding changes (use of the oVirt logo, interface CSS enhancements, etc) but the most important technical pieces are IMO:
* Synchronizing on a VM "hand-off" protocol so kimchi VMs can be easily transfered into an existing oVirt data center. * Packaging kimchi as an official oVirt Node plugin * Supporting the Spice protocol in kimchi
perhaps the integration with the guest agent.
Sure. Especially for stats and shutdown. -- Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com> IBM Linux Technology Center
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