[Users] Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop

Sun Jun 17 17:29:13 UTC 2012

On 06/17/2012 10:00 AM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:
> On 06/14/2012 06:02 PM, Barak Azulay wrote:
>> On 06/14/2012 02:41 AM, Mike Burns wrote:
>>> Hi Leslie,
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 15:14 -0700, Leslie Hawthorn wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to collect feedback from everyone on last week's oVirt workshop
>>>> at LinuxCon Japan. [0] Please reply back with comments by close of
>>>> business this Friday, 15 June.
>>>>
>>>> Once we have gathered feedback on list, I'll capture it on the oVirt
>>>> wiki. We can then use what we've learned to help construct the agenda
>>>> and other plans for other upcoming oVirt workshops at LinuxCons. [1]
>>>>
>>>> If you know that you would like to volunteer as an instructor for future
>>>> workshops or would like to suggest alternate content for the workshop,
>>>> please include that in your feedback.
>>>>
>>>> - Course Material
>>>> What sessions were most well received? Which ones require improvement?
>>>> Any additional sessions we'd suggest?
>>>
>>> All of the sessions seemed to be well received.  I don't know that any
>>> need blatant improvement, though they could probably all take a bit of
>>> slide updates.  The ovirt-node presentation was especially out of date
>>> (my fault) with it's screenshots.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to add:
>> - a demo is a must in a workshop, as it is the most effective and
>>    impressive way to attract people.
>> - I think the ovirt-engine presentation needs a bit more meat
> What stuff do you think we need to add to this presentation?
> Can you be more specific?
> Thanks,
>
> Yair


- better diagrams
- code structure
- go over a simple example-command work  flow - from entry till DB ...

and many more


>
>> - I would also add vertical presentations:
>>      * ovirt network
>>      * ovirt storage
>>      * ovirt vm life cycle
>>    Of course all the above should be presented after the arch&  demo
>>    presentation
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> - Audience Participation
>>>> How many attendees? How did the Q&A periods go? Would we like to prepare
>>>> a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can
>>>> prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.)
>>>
>>> There were probably between 25-35 people through the course of the day
>>> for all the presentations.
>>
>>
>> I gave also an intro/arch talk also in the virt mini-summit, I actually
>> gave 2.
>> I volunteered to cover for one of the presenters that surprisingly
>> didn't show up on time, because of the confusion this session was rather
>> small (~40)
>> In the second one (in my scheduled slot), there were about ~80.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> There wasn't really a lot of time set aside for Q&A aside from a few
>>> minutes at the end of each presentation and the breaks in between
>>> presentations.  During those times, there generally were people asking
>>> questions.
>>
>>
>> Actually I wasn't expecting too many questions due to the different
>> culture of the audience, but we did get questions and people showed
>> interest.
>> Most of the interesting questions came during the breaks, and I had a
>> few white-board sessions with those people.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I think we should prepare the survey in advance of the next workshop and
>>> ask people to fill it out during the workshop, rather than coming back a
>>> couple weeks after the fact.  We didn't really collect names of the
>>> people in attendance and I expect that a fair number of people
>>> registered attended the Gluster Conference.
>>>
>>
>> The linux foundation scanned all the participants tags, so I guess they
>> can supply the names.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> - Developer/user traction resulting from engaging at workshop
>>>> Did this workshop help us to gain new developers or users? Reinforce
>>>> relationships with existing community members?
>>>
>>> Only time will really tell here.  People definitely seemed interested
>>> and there were a couple people already downloading and installing the
>>> bits during the workshop.  I got the impression that most of the people
>>> there were more corporate focused -- Hitachi and Fujitsu were both well
>>> represented.  They're from companies that have previously expressed
>>> interest in the project.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hard to tell,
>> I had a feeling that there was also a none developers group that came
>> also to learn about ovirt, more of the consultant type that actually
>> considering ovirt as an option.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> - Promotion of the event, both before and after
>>>> What could be done to more effectively promote the event prior to the
>>>> workshops? Videos and slides from the workshop should be posted on the
>>>> LC Japan site tomorrow; what action would the community like to take to
>>>> promote this content?
>>>
>>> Not really my area of expertise -- promoting.  Probably better to get
>>> information out there earlier that the workshop is happening.  It seemed
>>> to be a bit of a fire drill getting things together for this workshop
>>> since it was only about a month before that we decided to run it.
>>> Future workshops shouldn't be as big a deal.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I would say we need a lot of promotion, I was actually accessed by a few
>> people after the into presentation, saying they had no idea that ovirt
>> is so mature and feature reach.
>> This message should be conveyed before the workshop.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Probably an email announcement to users@ with a link to the
>>> presentations/videos is the right next step.
>>>>
>>>> - A/V and Room Set up
>>>> Did the seating arrangements work well for the workshop format? Did the
>>>> A/V work well, including the videotaping process?
>>>
>>> Our room was setup with 5 round tables seating 10 people each.  I'm not
>>> sure that it was really the right layout.  I expected either rows of
>>> chairs or long tables with chairs all facing the presentation screen.
>>>
>>> A/V worked seamlessly.  It was all setup already when we arrived.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I would agree with Mike on the room setup.
>> I would prefer facing the presentation rather than having to look aside.
>>
>> In addition and related to the preparations for the workshop,
>> Since it was setup so late, the linux foundation thought that setting
>> the workshop means canceling the mini-summit presentation slot.
>> So all the handouts&  schedule boards hanged around the summit did no
>> include this talk, anyway eventually they hanged a hand written schedule
>> update, but I assume more people would have come if they knew.
>>
>> The web schedule was updated.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> - Food and beverage
>>>> Did the catered in lunch help to keep the flow of the workshop
>>>> productive? Was the food of good quality and in keeping with the needs
>>>> of attendee dietary constraints?
>>>
>>> I had no issues with the food.  People seemed to take the opportunity
>>> more to step out and take a break, rather than sit and continue
>>> discussing.
>>>
>>
>> I agree
>>
>>>>
>>>> - Give aways
>>>> We did not produce attendee gifts for the oVirt workshop. Thoughts on
>>>> whether this would be a welcome addition in the future? Suggestions for
>>>> type of gift also welcome.
>>>
>>> It would have been nice to have some sort of SWAG to give away, whether
>>> just fancy handouts or stickers.  It would be even better if we could
>>> have some sort of appliance with ovirt pre-installed and configured on a
>>> usb stick as well, but that's probably a year or 2 down the road.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Any other feedback
>>>
>>> It's probably better if there are people from a wider range of the
>>> sub-projects than we had in Japan.  I think that between Barak and I, we
>>> managed to cover the majority of the project, but I think it would be
>>> better to have someone from each major subproject there.
>>>
>>> I expect that either myself or someone from the Node team will be
>>> attending at least LinuxCon NA, LinuxCon Europe and the NetApp
>>> workshops.  We'll certainly handle the Node presentation for each of
>>> these workshops.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It looks like ovirt&  gluster workshops will happen side by side in the
>> near future.
>> I don't know if this is possible but I would do the workshops in
>> different days (of the summit) so people that want to participate in
>> both workshops can do it.
>> I know for sure that in Japan many registered for both workshops
>>
>>
>>
>> Barak
>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it is preferable to discuss this feedback real-time, I will ask Mike
>>>> Burns to give us more time for this topic during next week's oVirt IRC
>>>> meeting.
>>>>
>>>> [0] -
>>>> https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-japan/ovirt-gluster-workshops
>>>>
>>>> [1] - http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_Global_Workshops
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> LH
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Arch mailing list
>>> Arch at ovirt.org
>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Arch mailing list
>> Arch at ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
>