Submitting Kimchi project as an oVirt incubator project

[Itamar Heim]

On 07/29/2013 03:55 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On 07/24/2013 06:22 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Kimchi is a web-based management tool meant as an entry level tool for
>>> interacting with KVM.  It compliments oVirt well allowing the project to
>>> provide both a starting point for virtualization that can expand to a
>>> large enterprise environment.
>>>
>>> We believe that Kimchi will benefit by being part of the oVirt umbrella
>>> as we can work together to make the interfaces consistent with the oVirt
>>> UI and integrate with ovirt-node to provide a complete stand alone
>>> virtualization experience for an end-user.
>>
>> hi Anthony,
>>
>> I think it will be great to compliment the ovirt solution.
>> Is the idea to try and match the user portal/power user portal look and
>> feel / style?
>
> That would be ideal although not a short term goal.
>
> What we really want is for there to be a seamless transition between
> Kimchi and oVirt-engine.  We envision a user install Kimchi (via a
> Fedora based oVirt node ISO), playing around with KVM, creating some
> guests, and then deciding they need more.
>
> The user would then initial bringing the node into a datacenter and
> ideally, would be able to import those VMs into ovirt-engine in a
> seamless fashion.
>

to make this as seamless as possible, creating the files (or at least 
symlinks to them) in the storage domain file layout will allow the 
easiest importing as "an existing storage domain"?

> This is the bigger focus for us vs. just making the look and feel the
> same.
>
>> I think its important to try and make it feel its coming from the same
>> family.
>> we'll VMs and templates be portable from one to the other (via ovf?
>> something else?)
>
> Yes, this is an explicit goal.
>
>> show list of VMs from a remote ovirt-engine as well?
>
> The scope right now is narrowly focused on single node.  I personally
> think it's important to avoid creeping the scope beyond that.
>
> It really is about getting someone to do useful things with KVM with the
> absolute smallest number of steps.
>
>> do i understand correctly its a simplified web based "virt-manager", or
>> 'server oriented' boxes, or am i missing something?
>
> Web-based virt-manager is a good starting point.  The biggest difference
> though is that while virt-manager is a UI designed around exposing the
> features of libvirt, Kimchi's UI design is much more oriented to a
> particular type of user and simplifying the workflows that they'd have.
>
> The user we focus on is the "tire-kicker".  They are primarily Windows
> users who may already have experience with VMware but no direct
> experience with oVirt or KVM.
>
>> (say, what's the envisioned roadmap of development for features?)
>
> https://github.com/kimchi-project/kimchi/wiki/TODO

what's define/discover peers?

>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>      Itamar
>>
>>>
>>> More information about Kimchi is available at:
>>>
>>> http://github.com/kimchi-project/kimchi
>>>
>>> Let me know if there is additional information I can provide about the
>>> project.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony Liguori
>>>
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