[Engine-devel] Managing permissions on network
Itamar Heim
iheim at redhat.com
Tue Nov 13 13:21:47 UTC 2012
On 11/13/2012 03:17 PM, Moti Asayag wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 12:45 PM, Livnat Peer wrote:
>> On 13/11/12 10:57, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>> On 11/06/2012 02:56 PM, Livnat Peer wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> This is a proposal for handling network permissions in oVirt.
>>>>
>>>> In this proposal we took the more permissive approach as we find it
>>>> simple and a good starting point, we also think a more restrict approach
>>>> makes the configuration of a network cumbersome for ovirt administrators.
>>>>
>>>> Inputs are welcomed as always...
>>>>
>>>> Here is an overview of the approach, for more detailed description
>>>> please read the wiki page:
>>>> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Feature/NetworkPermissions
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> High Level Feature Description
>>>> Admin
>>>>
>>>> For creating a network in a DC you need to be SuperUser or
>>>> DataCenterAdmin or NetworkAdmin on the DC.
>>>
>>> since there are multiple permissions among the differnet roles, maybe
>>> worth specifying the actual permissions (actiongroups), rather than just
>>> the roles?
>>>
>>
>> you can find this info in the wiki page itself,this is only high level
>> summary.
>>
>>>> After creating the network you can manipulate the network if you
>>>> are a DataCenterAdmin or NetworkAdmin on the relevant network (or the
>>>> whole DC).
>>>> For attaching the network to cluster user needs to be NetworkAdmin
>>>> on the network (no requirement to have permission on the cluster)
>>>> ClusterAdmin cannot attach/detach a network from the cluster, the
>>>> motivation for this is that as long as the network is not attached to
>>>> the cluster it is not part of the cluster resources thus can not be
>>>> managed by the cluster administrator.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure above two lines are intuitive to manage (a network admin
>>> can manipulate a cluster, but the cluster admin can't change networks in
>>> the cluster? this means you must give network permissions, at DC level,
>>> so you can't limit an admin to network attach/detach to a specific cluster.
>>>
>>
>> That is true but looking on the alternative I think it make sense.
>> The alternative is to require two permissions for attaching a network to
>> a cluster one is networkAdmin (for editing network properties) on a
>> network and the other is networkAttach (a separate Role?) on a cluster
>> or the DC (if you want the user to be able to add the network for all
>> the clusters in the DC).
>> While I think the common use case is that a network administrator will
>> be able to attach the network to all the clusters I find the above
>> cumbersome and rather stick to the approach that you need only a single
>> permission and you can't limit the network manager to specific cluster.
>>
>> I think that if a requirement for limiting the network to specific
>> clusters comes from our users only then we should make the model more
>> strict and require two permissions.
>>
>>
>>>> The ClusterAdmin can change a network from required to
>>>> non-required for controlling the impact of the network within the
>>>> cluster.
>>>> For setting or manipulating a network on the host you need to be
>>>> host administrator on the host and you don't need to be network
>>>> administrator.
>>>>
>>>> User
>>>>
>>>> For attaching a network to a Vnic in the VM you need to have the
>>>> role of VmNetworkUser on the network and VmAdmin on the VM.
>>>
>>> again, roles are just default roles, please specify the actual
>>> permission (actiongroup)
>>
>> take a look in the wiki for exact details (which role is composed out of
>> which action groups)
>>>
>>>> In user portal - the list of shown network for a user will include
>>>> only the list of networks the user is allowed to attach to its vnics
>>>> (instead of all cluster's networks).
>>>
>>> or attached to user VMs.
>>> and need to handle case of network attached to template but user has no
>>> permission to that network?
>>>
>>
>> Interesting point, I think that if a user has permission to create a VM
>> from a specific template we should give him permission to use the
>> template networks on this VM implicitly upon the VM creation.
>>
>> I noticed the wiki page is missing which permission should be given to
>> users on which networks/VMs during upgrade - Moti?
>>
>
> Added:
>
> * '''VmNetworkUser''' role will be given to the user on each network
> attached to the VM/Template.
> * '''AdvancedVmNetworkUser''' role will be given to the user on each
> network attached to the VM with port-mirroring enabled.
Hi Moti,
I'm not sure what you mean by 'give to the user'.
if the VM has the permission, it doesn't mean the user should get it as
well, it only means user should be able to see networks their VM have
associated with.
can you please elaborate more.
Thanks,
Itamar
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