oVirt Forum Pilot

Mon May 21 07:15:44 UTC 2012

Thanks for your reply.

I surely would like to help here. I can provide a linux server (VM) that we can use to test the mailman / mybb combo.

Only thing needed (or not needed, but would be nice) is to have an A record (fa dev.ovirt.org) pointing to the ip address of the dev server.

Let me know if this is acceptable and I'll setup the vm.

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> On 05/15/2012 12:46 AM, Barry Kostjens wrote:
>> Does anyone maybe have a link to the option in mailman that is
>> being talked about?
> 
> Here is the Google Summer of Code project page:
> 
> https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2012/syst3mw0rm/31001
> 
> After reading up on the mockups behind that work, I wrote this summary
> post:
> 
> http://iquaid.org/2012/05/14/mailing-list-web-interface-magic/
> 
> Thanks again for not only caring about this problem, but for being
> willing to help fix it.
> 
> Do you want to work with me (and anyone else interested) on trying out
> the Mailman changes as they come live? We could put up a development
> environment that pulls in the nightly Mailman so we could try out
> features as they are developed, maybe even help make it all better. :)
> 
> - - Karsten
> 
>> Thanks :)
>> 
>> Op 15 mei 2012, om 09:44 heeft Itamar Heim het volgende
>> geschreven:
>> 
>>> On 05/15/2012 09:45 AM, Barry Kostjens wrote:
>>>> Anyone?
>>> 
>>> I thought karsten summarized this nicely. 
>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2012-May/000362.html
>>> 
>>> i think the consensus was forum would be great, but would either
>>> need a two-way bridge to mailing list, or a pilot with someone
>>> acting as a liaison forwarding information between the forum and
>>> the mailing list. also, there is the possibility mailman will
>>> have this option built it later which is worth promoting /
>>> waiting for if will be available soon.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I still really do feel like it would be a great addition for
>>>> the community.
>>>> 
>>>> Op 11 mei 2012, om 14:43 heeft Barry Kostjens het volgende
>>>> geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>>> Any more opinions on this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Op 10 mei 2012, om 09:06 heeft Barry Kostjens het volgende
>>>>> geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have been searching for a gateway mod, but such thing
>>>>>> does not exits (at least, not for mybb).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also my personal opinion is that it wouldn't be really
>>>>>> usefull. One big downside of the mail system is that every
>>>>>> mail contains all quotes. So every post and reply on the
>>>>>> forum would contain the whole email message including the
>>>>>> quotes over and over again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would suggest getting the forum up&  running and use it
>>>>>> as a pilot. I really think that you will get a bigger
>>>>>> community, as visibility on the net ig greatly expanded
>>>>>> this way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Op 9 mei 2012, om 23:06 heeft Itamar Heim het volgende
>>>>>> geschreven:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 05/09/2012 05:49 PM, Barry Kostjens wrote:
>>>>>>>> I was thinking about MyBB.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It has a 'mysupport' mod that adds the 'thread answered
>>>>>>>> / solved' function, and it also lets you set a 'best
>>>>>>>> answer'.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You can have a look at it here:
>>>>>>>> http://mods.mybb.com/view/mysupport
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think the only issue raised around this is "does it
>>>>>>> work two-way with emails"?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Op 9 mei 2012, om 16:44 heeft Oved Ourfalli het
>>>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Barry
>>>>>>>>>> Kostjens"<bkostjens at internetlimburg.nl> To: "Eli
>>>>>>>>>> Mesika"<emesika at redhat.com> Cc: infra at ovirt.org 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:39:19 AM Subject:
>>>>>>>>>> Re: oVirt Forum Pilot
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any more opinions?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dunno how many people there are on this list?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I love the idea of a forum, with E-mail gateways. The
>>>>>>>>> problem with a forum is that we should make sure we
>>>>>>>>> poll it frequently, and provide fast answers, as
>>>>>>>>> people tend to be more patient on mailing lists as
>>>>>>>>> they are on forums. Also, some forums give you score
>>>>>>>>> and titles on participation and help you give other
>>>>>>>>> users, so this could also be a motivation for users
>>>>>>>>> to help one another. Some forums also give the
>>>>>>>>> ability to set threads as "answered", and what the
>>>>>>>>> answer is, and that's also important as you can
>>>>>>>>> sometimes get lost in the information on long E-mail
>>>>>>>>> threads.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Didn't get a chance to take a look at the
>>>>>>>>> implementation suggestions below, but IMO an option
>>>>>>>>> that gives the abilities mentioned above will be the
>>>>>>>>> winner :-)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Oved
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Op 8 mei 2012 om 17:20 heeft Eli
>>>>>>>>>> Mesika<emesika at redhat.com>   het volgende
>>>>>>>>>> geschreven:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Barry Kostjens"<bkostjens at ilimburg.nl> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Heiko W.Rupp"<hrupp at redhat.com> Cc:
>>>>>>>>>>>> infra at ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:57:10 PM Subject: Re: oVirt Forum Pilot
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is what Doron said about it:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The thing is, it creates duplication. So people
>>>>>>>>>>>> wither use both the list and the forum, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> randomly selects one. Then you get people
>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to cross-reference the lists and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> forums... Now once we get into this state,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll be impossible to monitor the various
>>>>>>>>>>>> channels as I try to do today.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think that forum for this purpose is much
>>>>>>>>>>> friendly. +1 for a forum instead of the users
>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 8 mei 2012, om 16:54 heeft Heiko W.Rupp het
>>>>>>>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 08.05.2012 um 16:32 schrieb Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kostjens:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a suggestion to Doron Fediuck for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting up a ovirt forum pilot which might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprecate the users list in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not have both? A mailing list is perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for offline usage and for (some) forums there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist bi-directional email gateways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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