New ideas to grow the community

[Mike Burns]

On 02/24/2013 08:34 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <danken at redhat.com>
>> To: "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril at redhat.com>
>> Cc: infra at ovirt.org
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:20:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: New ideas to grow the community
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:42:23AM -0500, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
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>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <danken at redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril at redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: infra at ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:25:41 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: New ideas to grow the community
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:00:29AM -0500, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
>>>>> Hi team,
>>>>> I have few ideas regarding the project, any feedback will be
>>>>> appreciated !
>>>>>
>>>>> ### IRC ###
>>>>> 1. I think that we should create new channels on irc, #ovirt is
>>>>> not
>>>>> enough.
>>>>
>>>> Would you explain why it's time to fork #ovirt? I do not see TOO
>>>> much
>>>> traffic or confusion there.
>>>
>>> I think that we need to prepare for the future and do things
>>> correctly.
>>> I think that this will help the project to grow.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We should add:
>>>>>
>>>>> #ovirt-meeting - will be used for meetings only, need to add
>>>>> bot
>>>>> that will log the meetings
>>>>
>>>> meeting can generate a lot of temporary noise which can deter
>>>> people
>>>> from jumping in, so I would agree to create an ad-hoc channel for
>>>> a
>>>> meeting - but please update the main #ovirt topic to indicate
>>>> where
>>>> the
>>>> meeting takes place.
>>>
>>> Nobody told users that they must/should attend meetings. If they
>>> want - they will attend.
>>> Why not ovirt-meeting ? I like this name.
>>
>> I don't mind the name - I just want the topic of #ovirt to remind me
>> where have everybody's gone to.
>
> Good idea
>

This was discussed very early on -- splitting off and having a -meeting 
channel.  We didn't make the change at that time because there wasn't 
enough traffic on the channel to warrant having 2 channels.  Also, 
having the meetings in the #ovirt channel can have the side-effect of 
drawing more people into the meetings that are just lurking in #ovirt. 
Currently, there are only 3 meetings[1] per week in the #ovirt channel, 
each lasting 1 hr or less, generally.  IMO, moving 3 meetings out is not 
really going to help.



>>
>>> Sure we need to update the wiki with a new place
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> #ovirt-devel - will be used for devel discussions only
>>>>
>>>> Have users complained that there are to many technical
>>>> discussions on
>>>> #ovirt? I think that it's important to keep the devels near users
>>>> until
>>>> devels become a nuisance.
>>>
>>> Each discussions should be done in the right place.
>>> Maybe devel channel is not relevant for now,
>>> but still it will be nice to have it for a future.
>>
>> I think that spinning off #ovirt-devel is not "a thing done
>> correctly".
>> We may have to do it in the future, if users are tired of technical
>> java
>> discussions. Until this happens, we need to keep the guys who knows
>> the
>> most about the code near the guys who needs their support, in one
>> happy
>> channel.
>
> Yes I agree with you.

I agree, lets not make this split until we have to.

Mike

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>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> #ovirt - general
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Infra meetings should start with the following topic - New
>>>>> folks
>>>>> introductions (this is a tmp subject)
>>>>> In this topic we will let new folks to introduce themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> ### Ovirt website ###
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. We should add link to the infra in -
>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Community
>>>>> It should be possible to navigate to http://www.ovirt.org/Infra
>>>>> from http://www.ovirt.org/Community .
>>>>> First thing someone that want to join the project will navigate
>>>>> to
>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Community ,
>>>>> so it is very important to add link there.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Update -
>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Becoming_an_Infrastructure_team_member
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