Joining Infra team

[Kiril Nesenko]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" <kwade at redhat.com>
> To: "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril at redhat.com>
> Cc: infra at ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:34:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Joining Infra team
> 
> On 05/07/2013 04:36 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
> > We need to update this page -
> > http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_administrators
> > 1. rmiddle - is not active anymore
> 
> We don't have any current policy about inactivating members. Did Robert
> send out email saying he was no longer active, remove him as a
> maintainer, etc.?
> 
> This page doesn't mention anything about inactivity:
> 
> http://www.ovirt.org/Becoming_a_maintainer

IIUC, the above page talks about pkgs maintainers and not infra.
I think we should look at http://www.ovirt.org/Becoming_an_Infrastructure_team_member
  
> 
> It may simply be up to us to decide if we want a policy around
> inactivity. It seems to make sense that Infrastructure would be more
> strict around this - unlike code contribution under git, root access to
> servers can be destructive if an inactive Infra member has their key
> compromised, etc.

We should have such policy for sure.

> 
> > 2. oschreib - is not maintaining infra
> 
> He was at one point, probably when we formed the Infra group. As above,
> we don't have any policy for this.
> 
> If we're worried about proliferation of sshkeys with sudo access and
> less active Infra members, perhaps we can control specifically who has
> access to what rather than "everyone, everything." If someone goes
> inactive we can remove their sshkey access, but leave the rest (user ~/,
> voting privileges, etc.)

+1

> 
> I recall asking Carl Trieloff about this when he and JimJag were
> drafting the initial governance for oVirt. I was worried that a Board
> and maintainers that grew without much attrition would be unwieldy. They
> reassured me it worked out fine - there is no reason to retire people,
> if they are not active then they just stop debating and voting, but they
> can always come back as per the merit that got them maintainership in
> the first place. I haven't seen so far a reason to doubt their reasoning.

The purpose of maintainer is to be active as much as possible and to be involved in most infra tasks/changes/designs.
Maintainer needs to attend meetings in a weekly basis, etc...
So if the person who was a maintainer is inactive anymore, so we should change his status - to apprentice(for example) etc...
But as you mentioned, we need a policy for that.
[Adding Carl] 
 
> 
> > 3. Need to add obasan as apprentice.
> 
> So far it appears that new apprentices are added by suggesting of an
> existing maintainer. Perhaps we want to make that a more formal
> sponsorship arrangement? Each new apprentice needs a sponsor to help get
> them started, etc.

That's how it should work ! +1

> 
> Cheers - Karsten
> 
> > Ohad, please post your ssh pub key.
> > 
> > - Kiril
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" <kwade at redhat.com>
> >> To: infra at ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:07:43 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Joining Infra team
> >>
> >> On 05/06/2013 01:26 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I updated the "Joining the infra team" wiki page earlier todday with my
> >>> ubnderstanding of what was discussed and agreed several months ago.
> >>> Please have a look and review it (and edit it in place), as it's
> >>> entirely possible I've forgotten important things there.
> >>> http://www.ovirt.org/Becoming_an_Infrastructure_team_member
> >>
> >> Great, thanks. I just threw in some changes and additions, let me know
> >> what you think. Mainly I wanted to give more stuff to do as an apprentice.
> >>
> >> One thing that isn't addressed is the final step, which I briefly
> >> touched upon in my update. How do we want to handle proposing that
> >> apprentices move to maintainership? Just when it occurs to us? On a
> >> quarterly basis? When someone asks for the switch and it's obviously
> >> time to do it?
> >>
> >> In that vein, how do I propose that Alexander Rydekull and Dave Neary be
> >> pulled from apprentice to maintainer? Presuming they also feel ready, etc.
> >>
> >> Moran, are you still active and interested? I've lost track of who on
> >> the team from Red Hat Engineering is working on Infrastucture bits
> >> quietly ...
> >>
> >> - Karsten
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