[moVirt] Some thoughts about moVirt

[Martin Polednik]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek at redhat.com>
> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme at redhat.com>, "Martin Betak" <mbetak at redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron at redhat.com>,
> "sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar at gmail.com>, "Martin Polednik" <mpoledni at redhat.com>, movirt at ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:03:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> 
> (adding martin and movirt list - rest inline)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs at redhat.com>
> > To: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme at redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Martin Betak" <mbetak at redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck" <doron at redhat.com>,
> > "sphoorti joglekar"
> > <sphoorti.joglekar at gmail.com>, "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek at redhat.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 3:37:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme at redhat.com>
> > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs at redhat.com>
> > > Cc: "Martin Betak" <mbetak at redhat.com>, "Doron Fediuck"
> > > <doron at redhat.com>,
> > > "sphoorti joglekar"
> > > <sphoorti.joglekar at gmail.com>, "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek at redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:27:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs at redhat.com>
> > > > To: "Martin Betak" <mbetak at redhat.com>, "Greg Sheremeta"
> > > > <gshereme at redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: "Doron Fediuck" <doron at redhat.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 2:12:20 AM
> > > > Subject: Some thoughts about moVirt
> > > > 
> > > > 1. I will be glad to see a wiki page on how I can get involved with
> > > > moVirt.
> > > > For example, I have a new galaxy note4 phone. I will get soon a
> > > > "monster
> > > > machine" with 16 gigs, and some SSD, and 1 TB disk on it. Ok, I can
> > > > install
> > > > ovirt all-in-one on it, now what?
> > > > I don't even know how to configure browsing via the mobile device to my
> > > > home
> > > > network (i.e - access my mahcine) - yes, i know this is not a "strictly
> > > > moVirt" problem, but if you provide this info it will ease others to
> > > > start
> > > > developing. I would like to know how I can start contributing to
> > > > moVirt.
> > > > 
> > > > 2. Maybe I missed it - what is the decision about the technology?
> > > > Native
> > > > Java
> > > > ? Cordova? Something else? If native, maybe we should encourage somehow
> > > > others to start porting to IOS/ Windows Phone, etc?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Yair
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Adding Sphoorti and Tomas, as they are running this show :)
> > 
> > Oops, sorry for that.
> > 
> > > 
> > > 1. 16 GB is not "monster" -- better put 32 or 64 in it :D
> > > I think Sphoorti has already worked on some documentation, and may have
> > > plans
> > > to do more?
> > 
> > Yeah, so as I wrote down, if I have let's say some modem + router at home,
> > how can I work against my "all-in-one" ovirt installation?
> 
> Well, if both your phone and your monster machine is connected to the same
> router you are both on the same network. So if you can not see oVirt from
> mobile, there is some problem with firewall on the all-in-one.
>  
> On https://github.com/matobet/moVirt is the project page. It contains the
> sources, an unsigned build you can install to play with, some documentation
> on how to setup movirt and also how to setup the devel env.
> Ping us all the time if you have any issues setting it up. But please make
> sure you are using exactly the versions of everything as stated on wiki -
> any change in gradle or android-studio can have fatal consequences :D
> 
> Connecting to your environment - well, you need to have access to the
> engine's REST API from your phone. Than in the moVirt you just need to fill
> the API URL, name and password.
> Connecting securely using https is a bit tricky - you need to have the CA
> cert imported to your phone and connect to REST using the proper URL as
> stated in the cert.
> For devel env you can use the HTTPS and pick the "Disable HTTPS" - it will
> not check the cert and will work without proper url (e.g. with IP) and
> without cert imported.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 2. The decision was native Java. For now, afaik, iOS isn't being
> > > considered.
> > > Windows Phone is not popular, but it might be more popular among server
> > > admin types? Not sure.
> 
> Currently Android and surprisingly it works nice as-is on blackberry :) Even
> the devel env with debugger etc(!!!)
> Martin (Polednik) was considering to port it to iOS, not sure - Martin?
> Also a friend of Sphoorti (the current OPW intern) is very insterested in
> porting it to iOS as a different OPW. But this is very uncertain - not sure
> who could lead her and not sure about funding etc...

Heya,
I'm looking into building native iOS oVirt app, so far I've started designing
the storyboard (UI) and interaction. Some of the decisions were going with
objective-C (due to internal hate for swift) and going iPhone only as the first
iteration target in order to get the UI as iOSy as possible.

But I have to admit that my experience with iOS or mobile development overall
is quite limited, so I see no issues with either joint efforts or developing
two apps and seeing which one is more suited for iVirt. :)

> > 
> > Ok, good to know.
> > > 
> > > Greg
> > > 
> > 
>