[Users] OpenLDAP Simple Authentication in Ovirt Engine

Itamar Heim iheim at redhat.com
Thu Dec 13 07:51:31 UTC 2012


On 12/11/2012 09:19 PM, Charlie wrote:
> True LDAP does not require a password encryption method and is
> perfectly happy with cleartext storage and use.
>
> In practice, one uses a secure channel (LDAPS or Starttls or encrypted
> network) and most LDAP servers (such as OpenLDAP) will allow several
> different kinds of password encryption.
>
> An application, though, should not ever deal with this issue.  The
> password should be validated by doing a BIND operation, and the
> application should not do any READ operations on the userPassword
> value at any time, only authenticate operations.  Let the LDAP server
> manage authentication.
>
> Groups are harder.  You cannot rely on the presence of a memberOf
> attribute, unfortunately, and schema are contextually meaningless, so
> you need a way for the directory administrator to tell the client code
> how groups are being stored in the server.  Thierry gives one example,
> another is groupOfNames using a "member" attribute containing DNs of
> members.  Those are the two most common methods, but there are more.

Charlie - Alon wrote a suggestion[1] for the first step of simplifying 
the kerberos requirement.
another phase would be needed to make it configurable for various providers.
any help on implementing the first step is welcome.

Thanks,
    Itamar

[1] http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/engine-devel/2012-December/003257.html

>
> --Charlie
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Thierry Kauffmann
> <thierry.kauffmann at univ-montp2.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Le 04/12/2012 00:51, Itamar Heim a écrit :
>>
>> On 11/30/2012 12:30 PM, Thierry Kauffmann wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am currently testing Ovirt 3.1 standalone on Fedora 17.
>>
>> Until now, I could only use the default user admin at internal.
>>
>> Our Directory at the University is OpenLDAP. We use it for
>> authentication WITHOUT Kerberos : Simple authentication.
>>
>>
>> just wondering, i'm sure it is encrypted somehow, do you know which way?
>> also, when using openldap, which scheme are you using?
>>
>> thanks,
>>     Itamar
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> the password is transmitted by the client encrypted (hashed) to the openldap server.
>> We use the standard schemes delivered by openldap : core, cosine, nis, inetorgperson and samba
>>
>> A normal user dn is : uid=username,ou=Users,dc=example,dc=com
>> A normal group dn is : cn=groupname,ou=Groups,dc=example,dc=com
>> Group members are a list of values for the attribute "memberUid" of a group dn.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Thierry
>>
>>
>> I wonder how to use this backend to authenticate users and manage groups
>> in Ovirt.
>>
>> Has anyone already set this up ?
>> How to configure Ovirt to use Simple Authentication (No Kerberos).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> --
>> signature-TK Thierry Kauffmann
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