[Users] Problem with libvirt

Mon Feb 4 16:11:40 UTC 2013

Hello Antonio,

Could you indicate to me how I can connect to this #vdsm irc channel,
please?, I have seen in the ovirt page, community, IRC, but it doesn't
explain anything about how to connect. I have the ircII client in my Debian
box but I guess that it is necessary the host and port number. Is it
possible that host was irc.freenode.net?, and what is the port number and
the user to connect?

Thanks,

Juanjo.

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon
<asegurap at redhat.com>wrote:

> Juanjo,
>
> I'll look at it in the evening. If I don't find anything, maybe you
> can connect to the #vdsm irc channel at freenode tomorrow.
>
> Best
>
> Toni
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Juan Jose" <jj197005 at gmail.com>
> > To: "Antoni Segura Puimedon" <asegurap at redhat.com>
> > Cc: users at ovirt.org
> > Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 4:27:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Users] Problem with libvirt
> >
> > More information,
> >
> >
> > I attach the messages in the moment that error with VM installation
> > occur.
> >
> >
> > Juanjo.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Antoni Segura Puimedon <
> > asegurap at redhat.com > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hola,
> >
> > Could you make some pastebins with the contents of the files
> > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg* ?
> >
> > Also, virsh -r net-list and the log generated on the process
> > of losing the connection when creating a guest.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Toni
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Juan Jose" < jj197005 at gmail.com >
> > > To: "Moti Asayag" < masayag at redhat.com >
> > > Cc: users at ovirt.org
> > > Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 10:57:08 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Users] Problem with libvirt
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Monti and Dafna,
> > >
> > >
> > > The host have connectivity with the engine until I try to install a
> > > VM and in the middle of the process host loses the connectivity. I
> > > can see that it is a connection problem. How can I check if the
> > > host
> > > address is the same as I used to add it to my data-center?, I made
> > > an IP address change in the host but I delete it from engine and
> > > after change its address I re-added.
> > >
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I would like to know if my network configuration
> > > is correct because when I execute the "ipconfig" command in host
> > > console I can see the interfaces bond0 to bond4, em1 interface,
> > > localhost and ovirtmgmt with the host IP. Is it that correct?
> > >
> > >
> > > Many thanks in avanced,
> > >
> > >
> > > Juanjo.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Moti Asayag < masayag at redhat.com >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 01/31/2013 03:37 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
> > > > Hello Moti,
> > > >
> > > > The execution of this command in the host is:
> > >
> > > This indicates VDSM is up and running correctly, but the
> > > ovirt-engine
> > > can't reach it.
> > >
> > > Can you check the connectivity from the ovirt-engine to the host
> > > (use
> > > the same address as used to add it to data-center) ?
> > >
> > > Maybe there are iptables issues preventing establishing connection
> > > from
> > > the engine to the host.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [root at ovirt-host ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps
> > > > HBAInventory = {'iSCSI': [{'InitiatorName':
> > > > 'iqn.1994-05.com.redhat:69e9aaf7e4c'}], 'FC': []}
> > > > ISCSIInitiatorName = iqn.1994-05.com.redhat:69e9aaf7e4c
> > > > bondings = {'bond4': {'addr': '', 'cfg': {}, 'mtu': '1500',
> > > > 'netmask':
> > > > '', 'slaves': [], 'hwaddr': '00:00:00:00:00:00'}, 'bond0':
> > > > {'addr':
> > > > '',
> > > > 'cfg': {}, 'mtu': '1500', 'netmask': '', 'slaves': [], 'hwaddr':
> > > > '00:00:00:00:00:00'}, 'bond1': {'addr': '', 'cfg': {}, 'mtu':
> > > > '1500',
> > > > 'netmask': '', 'slaves': [], 'hwaddr': '00:00:00:00:00:00'},
> > > > 'bond2':
> > > > {'addr': '', 'cfg': {}, 'mtu': '1500', 'netmask': '', 'slaves':
> > > > [],
> > > > 'hwaddr': '00:00:00:00:00:00'}, 'bond3': {'addr': '', 'cfg': {},
> > > > 'mtu':
> > > > '1500', 'netmask': '', 'slaves': [], 'hwaddr':
> > > > '00:00:00:00:00:00'}}
> > > > clusterLevels = ['3.0', '3.1']
> > > > cpuCores = 4
> > > > cpuFlags =
> > > >
> fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,ht,tm,pbe,syscall,nx,lm,constant_tsc,arch_perfmon,pebs,bts,rep_good,nopl,aperfmperf,pni,dtes64,monitor,ds_cpl,vmx,smx,est,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,sse4_1,lahf_lm,dtherm,tpr_shadow,vnmi,flexpriority,model_coreduo,model_Conroe
> > > > cpuModel = Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz
> > > > cpuSockets = 1
> > > > cpuSpeed = 1999.000
> > > > emulatedMachines = ['pc-0.15', 'pc-1.0', 'pc', 'pc-0.14',
> > > > 'pc-0.13',
> > > > 'pc-0.12', 'pc-0.11', 'pc-0.10', 'isapc', 'pc-0.15', 'pc-1.0',
> > > > 'pc',
> > > > 'pc-0.14', 'pc-0.13', 'pc-0.12', 'pc-0.11', 'pc-0.10', 'isapc']
> > > > guestOverhead = 65
> > > > hooks = {}
> > > > kvmEnabled = true
> > > > lastClient = xxx.xxx.xxx.91
> > > > lastClientIface = ovirtmgmt
> > > > management_ip =
> > > > memSize = 7701
> > > > netConfigDirty = False
> > > > networks = {'ovirtmgmt': {'addr': '158.109.202.67', 'cfg':
> > > > {'DELAY':
> > > > '0', 'IPV6INIT': 'no', 'UUID':
> > > > '3cbac056-822a-43e9-a4ec-df5324becd79',
> > > > 'DEFROUTE': 'yes', 'DNS1': 'xxx.xxx.xxx.1', 'IPADDR':
> > > > 'xxx.xxx.xxx.67',
> > > > 'ONBOOT': 'yes', 'IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL': 'no', 'BROADCAST':
> > > > 'xxx.xxx.xxx.255', 'NM_CONTROLLED': 'no', 'NETMASK':
> > > > 'xxx.xxx.xxx.0',
> > > > 'BOOTPROTO': 'none', 'DNS2': 'xxx.xxx.xxx.9', 'DEVICE':
> > > > 'ovirtmgmt',
> > > > 'TYPE': 'Bridge', 'GATEWAY': 'xxx.xxx.xxx.1', 'NETWORK':
> > > > 'xxx.xxx.xxx.0'}, 'mtu': '1500', 'netmask': '255.255.254.0',
> > > > 'stp':
> > > > 'off', 'bridged': True, 'gateway': 'xxx.xxx.xxx.1', 'ports':
> > > > ['em1']}}
> > > > nics = {'em1': {'hwaddr': '00:19:99:35:cc:54', 'netmask': '',
> > > > 'speed':
> > > > 1000, 'addr': '', 'mtu': '1500'}}
> > > > operatingSystem = {'release': '1', 'version': '17', 'name':
> > > > 'Fedora'}
> > > > packages2 = {'kernel': {'release': '1.fc17.x86_64', 'buildtime':
> > > > 1350912755.0, 'version': '3.6.3'}, 'spice-server': {'release':
> > > > '5.fc17',
> > > > 'buildtime': '1336983054', 'version': '0.10.1'}, 'vdsm':
> > > > {'release':
> > > > '10.fc17', 'buildtime': '1349383616', 'version': '4.10.0'},
> > > > 'qemu-kvm':
> > > > {'release': '2.fc17', 'buildtime': '1349642820', 'version':
> > > > '1.0.1'},
> > > > 'libvirt': {'release': '2.fc17', 'buildtime': '1355687905',
> > > > 'version':
> > > > '0.9.11.8'}, 'qemu-img': {'release': '2.fc17', 'buildtime':
> > > > '1349642820', 'version': '1.0.1'}}
> > > > reservedMem = 321
> > > > software_revision = 10
> > > > software_version = 4.10
> > > > supportedProtocols = ['2.2', '2.3']
> > > > supportedRHEVMs = ['3.0', '3.1']
> > > > uuid = 36303030-3139-3236-3800-00199935CC54_00:19:99:35:cc:54
> > > > version_name = Snow Man
> > > > vlans = {}
> > > > vmTypes = ['kvm']
> > > > [root at ovirt-host ~]#
> > > >
> > > > I can't execute this command in my engine because command
> > > > "vdsClient" is
> > > > not installed.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks in avanced,
> > > >
> > > > Juanjo.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Moti Asayag < masayag at redhat.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > <mailto: masayag at redhat.com >> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 01/31/2013 02:26 PM, Dafna Ron wrote:
> > > > > non responsive state for host means that you either have a
> > > > > network
> > > > issue
> > > > > (iptables perhaps) or vdsmd is down.
> > > > > please attach vdsm and libvirtd logs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > By looking the engine.log below there are network issues:
> > > >
> > > > 2013-01-31 11:49:54,121 ERROR
> > > > [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > (QuartzScheduler_Worker-73) [73213e4f] vds::refreshVdsStats
> > > > Failed
> > > > getVdsStats, vds = 7d3491e8-49ce-11e2-8b2e-000a5e429f63 : host1,
> > > > error
> > > > = VDSNetworkException: VDSNetworkException:
> > > >
> > > > Can you reach the host from the ovirt-engine server ? or can you
> > > > check
> > > > that vdsm service runs on the host by invoking:
> > > >
> > > > vdsClient -s 0 getVdsCaps
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 01/31/2013 01:21 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
> > > > >> Hello everybody,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have installed and configured oVirt 3.1 engine in a Fedora
> > > > >> 17
> > > > with a
> > > > >> Fedora 17 node connected. Ihave defined a NFS domain for my VM
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> another for ISOs. I try to start a Fedora 17 Server with Run
> > > > >> once and
> > > > >> the machi start without problems, after that I preceed with
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> installation in its wirtual disk but when I arrive to define
> > > > >> partitions in the virtual disk the machine is freeze and I
> > > > >> start
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> receive engine errors and the default data center go in non
> > > > responsive
> > > > >> status.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I can see this messages in /var/log/ovirt-engine/engine.log,
> > > > >> which I
> > > > >> attach to this message:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ....
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:23,957 INFO
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-47) [75664f2b] Recieved a Device
> > > > >> without
> > > > >> an
> > > > >> address when processing VM
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87
> > > > >> devices, skipping device: {shared=false,
> > > > >> volumeID=1d0e9fdf-c4bc-4894-8ff1-7a5e185d57a4, index=0,
> > > > >> propagateErrors=off, format=raw, type=disk,
> > > > >> truesize=8589938688,
> > > > >> reqsize=0, bootOrder=2, iface=virtio,
> > > > >> volumeChain=[Ljava.lang.Object;@1ea2bdf9,
> > > > >> imageID=49e21bfc-384b-4bea-8013-f02b1be137c7,
> > > > >> domainID=57d184a0-908b-49b5-926f-cd413b9e6526, specParams={},
> > > > >> optional=false, needExtend=false,
> > > > >>
> > > >
> path=/rhev/data-center/d6e7e8b8-49c7-11e2-a261-000a5e429f63/57d184a0-908b-49b5-926f-cd413b9e6526/images/49e21bfc-384b-4bea-8013-f02b1be137c7/1d0e9fdf-c4bc-4894-8ff1-7a5e185d57a4,
> > > > >> device=disk, poolID=d6e7e8b8-49c7-11e2-a261-000a5e429f63,
> > > > >> readonly=false, deviceId=49e21bfc-384b-4bea-8013-f02b1be137c7,
> > > > >> apparentsize=8589934592}.
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:23,960 ERROR
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-47) [75664f2b] VM
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87 managed non plugable
> > > > >> device
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> removed unexpetedly from libvirt:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> VmId=da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87,DeviceId=4dca1c64-dbf8-4e31-b359-82cf0e259f65,Device=qxl,Type=video,BootOrder=0,SpecParams={vram=65536},Address=,IsManaged=true,IsPlugged=true,IsReadOnly=false,alias=
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:23,961 ERROR
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-47) [75664f2b] VM
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87 managed non plugable
> > > > >> device
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> removed unexpetedly from libvirt:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> VmId=da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87,DeviceId=aba73f2f-e951-4eba-9da4-8fb58315df2c,Device=memballoon,Type=balloon,BootOrder=0,SpecParams={model=virtio},Address=,IsManaged=true,IsPlugged=true,IsReadOnly=true,alias=
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:23,962 ERROR
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-47) [75664f2b] VM
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87 managed non plugable
> > > > >> device
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> removed unexpetedly from libvirt:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> VmId=da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87,DeviceId=9bfb770c-13fa-4bf6-9f1f-414927bc31b0,Device=cdrom,Type=disk,BootOrder=0,SpecParams={path=},Address=,IsManaged=true,IsPlugged=true,IsReadOnly=true,alias=
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:23,963 ERROR
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-47) [75664f2b] VM
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87 managed non plugable
> > > > >> device
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> removed unexpetedly from libvirt:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> VmId=da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87,DeviceId=614bc0b4-64d8-4058-8bf8-83db62617e00,Device=bridge,Type=interface,BootOrder=0,SpecParams={},Address=,IsManaged=true,IsPlugged=true,IsReadOnly=false,alias=
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:23,964 ERROR
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-47) [75664f2b] VM
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87 managed non plugable
> > > > >> device
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> removed unexpetedly from libvirt:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> VmId=da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87,DeviceId=49e21bfc-384b-4bea-8013-f02b1be137c7,Device=disk,Type=disk,BootOrder=0,SpecParams={},Address=,IsManaged=true,IsPlugged=true,IsReadOnly=false,alias=
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:26,063 INFO
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-24) [7d021319] VM Fedora17
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87 moved from WaitForLaunch
> > > > >> -->
> > > > >> PoweringUp
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:26,064 INFO
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.FullListVdsCommand]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-24) [7d021319] START,
> > > > FullListVdsCommand(vdsId
> > > > >> = 7d3491e8-49ce-11e2-8b2e-000a5e429f63, vds=null,
> > > > >> vmIds=[da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87]), log id: f68f564
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:26,086 INFO
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.FullListVdsCommand]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-24) [7d021319] FINISH,
> > > > >> FullListVdsCommand,
> > > > >> return:
> > > > >> [Lorg.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.xmlrpc.XmlRpcStruct;@33c68023,
> > > > >> log
> > > > >> id: f68f564
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:26,091 ERROR
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-24) [7d021319] VM
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87 managed non plugable
> > > > >> device
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> removed unexpetedly from libvirt:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> VmId=da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87,DeviceId=aba73f2f-e951-4eba-9da4-8fb58315df2c,Device=memballoon,Type=balloon,BootOrder=0,SpecParams={model=virtio},Address=,IsManaged=true,IsPlugged=true,IsReadOnly=true,alias=
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:26,092 ERROR
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-24) [7d021319] VM
> > > > >> da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87 managed non plugable
> > > > >> device
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> removed unexpetedly from libvirt:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> VmId=da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87,DeviceId=9bfb770c-13fa-4bf6-9f1f-414927bc31b0,Device=cdrom,Type=disk,BootOrder=0,SpecParams={path=},Address=,IsManaged=true,IsPlugged=true,IsReadOnly=true,alias=
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:31,721 INFO
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.SetVmTicketCommand]
> > > > (ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-11)
> > > > >> [28d7a789] Running command: SetVmTicketCommand internal:
> > > > >> false.
> > > > >> Entities affected : ID: da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87
> > > > Type: VM
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:31,724 INFO
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SetVmTicketVDSCommand]
> > > > >> (ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-11) [28d7a789] START,
> > > > SetVmTicketVDSCommand(vdsId =
> > > > >> 7d3491e8-49ce-11e2-8b2e-000a5e429f63,
> > > > >> vmId=da09284e-3189-428b-a879-6201f7a5ca87,
> > > > >> ticket=qmcnuOICblb3,
> > > > >> validTime=120,m userName=admin at internal,
> > > > >> userId=fdfc627c-d875-11e0-90f0-83df133b58cc), log id: 6eaacb95
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:43:31,758 INFO
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SetVmTicketVDSCommand]
> > > > >> (ajp--0.0.0.0-8009-11) [28d7a789] FINISH,
> > > > >> SetVmTicketVDSCommand,
> > > > >> log
> > > > >> id: 6eaacb95
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:49:13,392 WARN
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.IrsBrokerCommand]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-81) [164eaa47] domain
> > > > >> 57d184a0-908b-49b5-926f-cd413b9e6526 in problem. vds: host1
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:49:54,121 ERROR
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-73) [73213e4f] vds::refreshVdsStats
> > > > >> Failed
> > > > >> getVdsStats, vds = 7d3491e8-49ce-11e2-8b2e-000a5e429f63 :
> > > > >> host1,
> > > > >> error = VDSNetworkException: VDSNetworkException:
> > > > >> 2013-01-31 11:49:54,172 WARN
> > > > >> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsManager]
> > > > >> (QuartzScheduler_Worker-73) [73213e4f]
> > > > >> ResourceManager::refreshVdsRunTimeInfo::Failed to refresh VDS
> > > > >> ,
> > > > >> vds =
> > > > >> 7d3491e8-49ce-11e2-8b2e-000a5e429f63 : host1, VDS Network
> > > > >> Error,
> > > > >> continuing.
> > > > >> VDSNetworkException:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ....
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In the events windows after VM freezing, I have below events:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2013-Jan-31, 11:50:52 Failed to elect Host as Storage Pool
> > > > >> Manager
> > > > >> for Data Center Default. Setting status to Non-Operational.
> > > > >> 2013-Jan-31, 11:50:52 VM Fedora17 was set to the Unknown
> > > > >> status.
> > > > >> 2013-Jan-31, 11:50:52 Host host1 is non-responsive.
> > > > >> 2013-Jan-31, 11:49:55 Invalid status on Data Center Default.
> > > > >> Setting
> > > > >> Data Center status to Non-Responsive (On host host1, Error:
> > > > >> Network
> > > > >> error during communication with the Host.).
> > > > >> 2013-Jan-31, 11:44:25 VM Fedora17 started on Host host1
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any suggest about the problem?. It seem a libvirt problem, I
> > > > >> will
> > > > >> continue investigating.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Many thanks in avanced,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Juanjo.
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