[Users] Fedora upgrading from 3.1 to 3.2
Alex Lourie
alourie at redhat.com
Sun Jun 23 20:13:20 UTC 2013
Hi Alfred
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Alfred Angelov <alfred at space2u.com>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
> This might sounds like a foolish question, but from the link you
> mentioned:
>
>> oVirt 3.1 was released as Fedora 17 package while 3.2 is targeted
>> Fedora 18. Due to the nature of this upgrade, we DO NOT recommend
>> it, users are advised to do a 3.2 clean installation, and to import
>> all VM's and template into the new installation.
>>
> Is there anything special I would have to do to import all the VMs
> (around 40) from my ovirt 3.1.0-2 to another ovirt (which runs 3.2.2)
> ?
>
No, just usual import should work.
>
> Mvh, Alfred Angelov
>
> On 06/23/2013 11:35 AM, Alex Lourie wrote:
>> Hi Karli
>>
>> I've written up all we know at [1], please try to follow it (if you
>> haven't yet) and let us know how it goes. If anything goes wrong, we
>> will look for the ways to resolve it.
>>
>> Alex.
>>
>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.1_to_3.2_upgrade
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Alex Lourie <alourie at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Karli
>>>
>>> I am reviewing all the actions again, and hopefully will have
>>> something documented on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Alex.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Karli Sjöberg
>>> <Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se> wrote:
>>> > tis 2013-06-18 klockan 10:06 +0300 skrev Moran Goldboim: On >
>>> 06/17/2013 02:51 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
>>> >> >> > mån 2013-06-17 klockan 10:11 +0003 skrev Alex Lourie:
>>> On Fri, > Jun 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Karli Sjöberg
>>> <Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> > Hi!
>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> Hi Karli,
>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > More than two months have passed without any
>>> notices or updates >>>> on >>>> > this issue, and looking at the
>>> bugreport absolutely nothing has >>>> been >>>> > done since then.
>>> What´s confusing me is that the release >>>> management >>>> > for
>>> oVirt 3.2 has this clearly printed:
>>> >>>> > "MUST: Upgrade from previous release"
>>> >>>> > >>>> > And you all seem too busy with getting the next
>>> release out of >>>> the >>>> > door before fixing the current...
>>> What gives? Don´t you care >>>> about >>>> > early adopters?
>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> I apologise that this issue wasn't taken care of
>>> yet. It is clear >>>> that >>>> the priorities of developers
>>> shifted towards work on features in >>>> 3.3 >>>> release, which
>>> feature freeze is happening in about 2 weeks, so >>>> you can >>>>
>>> understand the time pressure they all have. There's no need to be
>>> >>>> angry >>>> about that. It is an open source project and as
>>> resources for the >>>> development are limited, we're trying to do
>>> our best to cover as >>>> much >>>> issues as possible. This can
>>> lead to situations as this issue, >>>> which >>>> may be left
>>> behind for some time.
>>> >>>> >>> >>> I´m not angry, as I stated before, I´m more
>>> confused, and maybe a >>> little disappointed that important(in my
>>> opinion) pieces of a >>> projects continuum have been ignored like
>>> that. I´m having a hard >>> time understanding the reasoning
>>> behind the priorities that have >>> made this issue appear. In my
>>> mind, making sure that users of any >>> project are able to follow
>>> between minor upgrades is a given, with >>> a schedule like; 1)
>>> Feature freeze, 2) Fix release blockers >>> (upgrading being one of
>>> them), 3) Release, in that order. Now >>> what´s happening is that
>>> you are kind of hoping to drag this out >>> until the problem goes
>>> away by itself when you decide it´s time to >>> stop supporting
>>> 3.1.
>>> >>> >>>> That said, the process for upgrading the oVirt 3.1 on
>>> Fedora 17 to >>>> oVirt 3.2 on Fedora 18 is complex and
>>> non-trivial, that's why it >>>> is >>>> taking time to resolve all
>>> the issues that come up in the process.
>>> >>>> >>>> If this matter is not extremely urgent, we are currently
>>> working >>>> on a >>>> tool that may make this upgrade easier,
>>> albeit, maybe, not >>>> completely >>>> automatic.
>>> >>>> >>>> On the other hand, if this is a completely and utterly
>>> urgent, we >>>> may >>>> try to guide you through possible manual
>>> attempts to perform the >>>> upgrade. Mind though, that they
>>> weren't thoroughly tested, and not >>>> promised to go smoothly or
>>> even work, and we may have to think >>>> about >>>> possible
>>> alternative solutions on the go.
>>> >>>> >>> >>> Straight answer: Am I ever going to be able to
>>> upgrade from 3.1 to >>> 3.2?
>>> >>> >>> My concern (fear) is about being left behind, abandoned. It
>>> makes >>> me feel non-important. Just like any admin, the work put
>>> down to >>> make Templates, to set up quotas, create VMPools, a
>>> dozen of >>> guests. And then have to export everything (nullifying
>>> the idea of >>> "Thin Provisioning"), redo every Role, reset every
>>> permission, >>> quota, and so on, isn´t (in my opinion) viable in
>>> the long run for >>> oVirt as a project to demand. That´s why I
>>> had the notion that >>> upgrading surely had to be a high priority.
>>> Was I wrong about that?
>>> >>> >> >> upgrade actually was high priority task, but due to lots
>>> of platform >> (fedora 18) changes, it became a huge operation to
>>> support it (which >> comes on top new features/bugs/support etc.).
>>> >> in addition we have noticed that the interest from the community
>>> >> regarding it, is very limited.
>>> >> >> from where i see i we have couple of options:
>>> >> -if there is enough interest from the community we can give it
>>> >> another go (though i think most of it moved long ago to oVirt
>>> 3.2)
>>> >> > > You certainly have my interest at least;)
>>> > >> -we can help individuals by making a migration (3.1->3.2)
>>> document >> on fedora base systems- we'll probably need your
>>> assistance on >> testing side here
>>> >> > > A document explaining how to upgrade would be completly
>>> acceptable > for me. I´m not asking for a turnkey command that
>>> makes everything > for me, I´ve managed to get quite far by myself
>>> any way. I would > love to help testing the procedure, as I´ve
>>> stated before, we have > set up a dedicated test environment
>>> dedicated for this specific > upgrade task in mind, with engine,
>>> hosts and storage somewhat equal > to the production system.
>>> Please, if there´s anything I can do to > help, don´t hesitate to
>>> ask!
>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> Best regards,
>>> >>>> Alex Lourie,
>>> >>>> Software Developer in Integration,
>>> >>>> RHEV, Red Hat.
>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Best Regards
>>> >>>> > Karli Sjöberg
>>> >>>> > >>>> > fre 2013-04-05 klockan 10:24 +0200 skrev Sandro
>>> Bonazzola: Hi >>>> Karli,
>>> >>>> >> we're still working on it
>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Il 02/04/2013 12:22, Karli Sjöberg ha
>>> scritto:
>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Hi,
>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> has there been any progress regarding this matter?
>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Best Regards
>>> >>>> >>> Karli Sjöberg
>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:12 +0000 skrev Karli
>>> Sjöberg:
>>> >>>> >>>> fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:59 +0100 skrev Sandro
>>> Bonazzola: >>>> >>>>> Il 13/03/2013 12:24, Karli Sjöberg ha
>>> scritto:
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> ons 2013-03-13 klockan 12:00 +0100 skrev
>>> Dave Neary: Hi >>>> Karli,
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On 03/11/2013 12:16 PM, Karli Sjöberg
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> > Hi,
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> > in the absence of any official path, we have
>>> started >>>> working >>>> >>>>>>> out our own
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> > procedure for going from oVirt-3.1/Fedora 17 to >>>>
>>> >>>>>>> oVirt-3.2/Fedora 18.
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Indeed, I have not seen any documentation
>>> in the wiki yet >>>> on >>>> >>>>>>> upgrading >>>> >>>>>>> oVirt -
>>> would you be interested in writing up your >>>> experiences >>>>
>>> >>>>>>> there as >>>> >>>>>>> a guide to others?
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Thanks!
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Dave.
>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> That was my intention to
>>> share a working procedure once it >>>> was >>>> >>>>>> complete but
>>> I unfortunately hit a wall at >>>> "engine-upgrade". I >>>> >>>>>>
>>> would be very glad, and able to continue, if that obstacle >>>>
>>> could >>>> >>>>>> be lifted.
>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> My experience in upgrading from
>>> oVirt-3.1/Fedora 17 to >>>> >>>>> oVirt-3.2/Fedora 18:
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fedora 17:
>>> >>>> >>>>> Be sure to have the latest updates running: yum
>>> distro-sync
>>> >>>> >>>>> Set exclude=ovirt* in /etc/yum.conf
>>> >>>> >>>>> Execute: fedup --disablerepo=ovirt* --network 18
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> When you have a running Fedora 18:
>>> >>>> >>>>> # systemctl list-units --failed
>>> >>>> >>>>> UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB DESCRIPTION
>>> >>>> >>>>> httpd.service loaded failed failed The Apache HTTP
>>> >>>> Server
>>> >>>> >>>>> postgresql.service loaded failed failed PostgreSQL
>>> database >>>> server
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # systemctl stop postgresql.service
>>> >>>> >>>>> # tar cJvf pgsql-backup.tar.xz /var/lib/pgsql/data/
>>> >>>> >>>>> # yum install postgresql-upgrade
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # cp /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf
>>> /root/pg_hba.conf.ovirt
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> edit /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf changing
>>> md5 to trust >>>> on the >>>> >>>>> local line.
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # diff -u pg_hba.conf.ovirt pg_hba.conf
>>> >>>> >>>>> --- pg_hba.conf.ovirt 2013-01-30 20:58:49.404000000 +0100
>>> >>>> >>>>> +++ pg_hba.conf 2013-01-30 20:59:06.709000000 +0100
>>> >>>> >>>>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@
>>> >>>> >>>>> # TYPE DATABASE USER ADDRESS
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> METHOD
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # "local" is for Unix domain socket
>>> connections only
>>> >>>> >>>>> -local all all >>>>
>>> >>>> >>>>> md5
>>> >>>> >>>>> +local all all >>>>
>>> >>>> >>>>> trust
>>> >>>> >>>>> # IPv4 local connections:
>>> >>>> >>>>> host all all 127.0.0.1/32 >>>>
>>> >>>> >>>>> md5
>>> >>>> >>>>> # IPv6 local connections:
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # postgresql-setup
>>> upgrade
>>> >>>> >>>>> Redirecting to /bin/systemctl stop postgresql.service
>>> >>>> >>>>> Upgrading database: OK
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> See /var/lib/pgsql/pgupgrade.log for details.
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # cp /root/pg_hba.conf.ovirt
>>> /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf
>>> >>>> >>>>> # systemctl postgrsql.service restart
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> edit /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:
>>> >>>> >>>>> # diff -u ssl.conf.ovirt ssl.conf
>>> >>>> >>>>> --- ssl.conf.ovirt 2013-01-30 21:21:06.906000000 +0100
>>> >>>> >>>>> +++ ssl.conf 2013-01-30 21:22:02.757000000 +0100
>>> >>>> >>>>> @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
>>> >>>> >>>>> # consult the online docs. You have been warned. >>>>
>>> >>>>> #
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> -LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
>>> >>>> >>>>> +#LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> #
>>> >>>> >>>>> # When we also provide SSL we have to listen to the
>>> >>>> >>>>> @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
>>> >>>> >>>>> # Semaphore:
>>> >>>> >>>>> # Configure the path to the mutual exclusion
>>> semaphore the
>>> >>>> >>>>> # SSL engine uses internally for inter-process >>>>
>>> >>>>> synchronization. >>>> >>>>> -SSLMutex default
>>> >>>> >>>>> +#SSLMutex default
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # Pseudo Random Number Generator (PRNG):
>>> >>>> >>>>> # Configure one or more sources to seed the PRNG of
>>> the
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # /bin/systemctl restart
>>> httpd.service
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Remove the line exclude=ovirt* from
>>> /etc/yum.conf
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> # yum update ovirt-engine-setup
>>> >>>> >>>>> # engine-upgrade
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> However, during the upgrade I've stepped into
>>> >>>> >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906270
>>> >>>> >>>>> We are still working on the upgrade actions.
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Our procedures looks almost exactly the same,
>>> and we have >>>> gotten >>>> >>>> just as far as you have. Good to
>>> know.
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> /Karli
>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>
>>> -- >>>> >> Sandro Bonazzola
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>>> >>>> > Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences
>>> >>>> > Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8)
>>> >>>> > S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> >>>> > Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66
>>> >>>> > karli.sjoberg at slu.se
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>>> >>> Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences
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>>> >>> S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden
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