[Users] Understanding Console Options

[Haoyang Haven Liu]

I can appreciate the .vv file for certain platforms in which virt-viewer provides additional benefits, but my point was I (and I suspect at least some other) use existing VNC clients in Mac/Windows/Linux, and perhaps don't want to use virt-viewer. In those cases, that the  "download .vv file method" is more needlessly cumbersome as compared to the "popup with host/port/password" method, whether it involves writing a wrapper, or just open the downloaded text file.

As I said, perhaps instead of the two console options scheme currently, it should be a three console option scheme with "VNC", "virt-viewer", "SPICE", because the "download .vv file method" is not at all (generic) VNC clients friendly.



On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com> wrote:

> On 10/03/2013 02:29 AM, Christian Hernandez wrote:
>>>> Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients
>> from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a
>> console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent >> benefit.
>> There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer
>> to still get the popup.
>> 
>> Agreed
>> 
>> Maybe this is just a ploy to get everyone to use Spice?
>> 
>> ...if that's the case; when are we going to get Spice plugin for Mac OSX?
> 
> to answer both.
> 1. its not a ploy, its actually to solve the problem for platforms without plugins for spice or vnc (no platform has a plugin for vnc).
> 
> 2. virt-viewer supports both windows and linux
> http://www.spice-space.org/download.html
> 
> i remember there is a client for mac as well actually, i suggest asking on:
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel
> 
> 3. you can write a small wrapper script and associate it with the .vv file (hopefully, someone will do this and attach an example for others).
> this will work for both vnc of your choice and spice on any platform
> 
> HTH,
>  Itamar
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Christian Hernandez
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>> Glendale, CA 91204
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>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu <haven.liu at ucla.edu
>> <mailto:haven.liu at ucla.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>>   The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a
>>   (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a
>>   linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not
>>   recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became
>>   more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be
>>   an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup.
>> 
>>   Haven
>> 
>>   On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik <fkobzik at redhat.com
>>   <mailto:fkobzik at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Nick,
>>> 
>>> concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the
>>   fix has been already merged.
>>> 
>>> About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way
>>   to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in
>>   Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using
>>   text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with
>>   .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up
>>   instantly).
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Frank.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nicholas Kesick" <cybertimber2000 at hotmail.com
>>   <mailto:cybertimber2000 at hotmail.com>>
>>> To: "oVirt Mailing List" <users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM
>>> Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki
>>   page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right?
>>> 
>>> Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at
>>   least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote
>>   Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under
>>   Edit > Console.
>>> 
>>> Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in
>>   oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use
>>   with a local client?
>>> 
>>> - Nick
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