[Users] Understanding Console Options

[Itamar Heim]

On 10/04/2013 06:09 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu wrote:
> I can appreciate the .vv file for certain platforms in which virt-viewer provides additional benefits, but my point was I (and I suspect at least some other) use existing VNC clients in Mac/Windows/Linux, and perhaps don't want to use virt-viewer. In those cases, that the  "download .vv file method" is more needlessly cumbersome as compared to the "popup with host/port/password" method, whether it involves writing a wrapper, or just open the downloaded text file.
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> As I said, perhaps instead of the two console options scheme currently, it should be a three console option scheme with "VNC", "virt-viewer", "SPICE", because the "download .vv file method" is not at all (generic) VNC clients friendly.

it is missing a script for you to associate with your browser, which 
will get the .vv file and launch your favorite vnc client with the info 
from the .vv file?

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> On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/03/2013 02:29 AM, Christian Hernandez wrote:
>>>>> Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients
>>> from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a
>>> console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent >> benefit.
>>> There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer
>>> to still get the popup.
>>>
>>> Agreed
>>>
>>> Maybe this is just a ploy to get everyone to use Spice?
>>>
>>> ...if that's the case; when are we going to get Spice plugin for Mac OSX?
>>
>> to answer both.
>> 1. its not a ploy, its actually to solve the problem for platforms without plugins for spice or vnc (no platform has a plugin for vnc).
>>
>> 2. virt-viewer supports both windows and linux
>> http://www.spice-space.org/download.html
>>
>> i remember there is a client for mac as well actually, i suggest asking on:
>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel
>>
>> 3. you can write a small wrapper script and associate it with the .vv file (hopefully, someone will do this and attach an example for others).
>> this will work for both vnc of your choice and spice on any platform
>>
>> HTH,
>>   Itamar
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Christian Hernandez
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>>> Glendale, CA 91204
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>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu <haven.liu at ucla.edu
>>> <mailto:haven.liu at ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a
>>>    (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a
>>>    linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not
>>>    recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became
>>>    more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be
>>>    an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup.
>>>
>>>    Haven
>>>
>>>    On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik <fkobzik at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:fkobzik at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Nick,
>>>>
>>>> concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the
>>>    fix has been already merged.
>>>>
>>>> About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way
>>>    to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in
>>>    Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using
>>>    text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with
>>>    .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up
>>>    instantly).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Frank.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nicholas Kesick" <cybertimber2000 at hotmail.com
>>>    <mailto:cybertimber2000 at hotmail.com>>
>>>> To: "oVirt Mailing List" <users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM
>>>> Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki
>>>    page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right?
>>>>
>>>> Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at
>>>    least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote
>>>    Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under
>>>    Edit > Console.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in
>>>    oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use
>>>    with a local client?
>>>>
>>>> - Nick
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