[Users] Proposal for a fresh look and feel for Ovirt

Thu Oct 17 12:39:47 UTC 2013

Thank you for your feedback.

We are tracking low resolution issues via the following BZs:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=818051
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832258

I agree that the new design should accommodate low resolutions.

I actually hope that we will be able to accommodate low resolutions 
even with the current look&feel, and then possibly apply the same 
solution to the new look&feel.

Please note that the new look&feel doesn't really introduce a new 
layout structure (which we'd might want to do as well at some point) - 
it is mainly about graphical improvements to the current layout 
structure.

----
Thanks,
Einav

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gianluca Cecchi" <gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com>
> To: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck at redhat.com>
> Cc: "users" <users at ovirt.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:40:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Proposal for a fresh look and feel for Ovirt
> 
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Doron Fediuck  wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Malini Rao" <mrao at redhat.com>
> >> To: "users" <users at ovirt.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 8:06:49 PM
> >> Subject: [Users] Proposal for a fresh look and feel for Ovirt
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Here is a proposal for updating the ovirt look and feel to give it a fresh
> >> and modern look - http://www.ovirt.org/Ovirt_LAF.
> >> Your feedback and input is invited.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Malini
> >
> > Hi Malini,
> > From the L&F perspective it looks much better.
> > What I'd like you to review is the resolution you are using.
> > This seems to be taken in a full-hd screen, where I think we
> > should be able to support somewhat lower resolution, where
> > L&F may have a big impact.
> >
> > Would you consider posting also a lower resolution sample?
> >
> 
> +1 for this
> 
> As a side note, I have noticed that going from oVirt 3.2.3 to 3.3.0
> the horizontal needs are greater.
> For example refresh icon/button at the top right of the main admin
> portal is shown as a half row if window size is too small
> horizontally.
> And "Users" tab and "Events" are then shown on next line down.
> Also at 1176x885 is not good enugh.
> It works instead ok at 1280x1024 and 1366x768 both full screen; see link:
> In my opinion it should desirable to give chance to have a correct
> behavior at least at 1024x768.
> Using xwininfo it seems that the first size I get correct and complete
> horizontal layout is 1268 at the moment, using xwininfo on oVirt
> 3.3.0.
> Complete xwininfo output:
> 
> [g.cecchi at ope46 ~]$ xwininfo
> 
> xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
>           would like information by clicking the
>           mouse in that window.
> 
> xwininfo: Window id: 0x260007f "oVirt Engine Web Administration -
> Mozilla Firefox"
> 
>   Absolute upper-left X:  1
>   Absolute upper-left Y:  70
>   Relative upper-left X:  10
>   Relative upper-left Y:  40
>   Width: 1268
>   Height: 819
>   Depth: 24
>   Visual: 0x21
>   Visual Class: TrueColor
>   Border width: 0
>   Class: InputOutput
>   Colormap: 0x20 (installed)
>   Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
>   Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
>   Backing Store State: NotUseful
>   Save Under State: no
>   Map State: IsViewable
>   Override Redirect State: no
>   Corners:  +1+70  -97+70  -97-903  +1-903
>   -geometry 1268x819+-9+30
> 
> xprop gives instead:
> [g.cecchi at ope46 ~]$ xprop
> WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
> window state: Normal
> icon window: 0x0
> _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 1, 1, 32, 1
> _NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 0
> _NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE,
> _NET_WM_ACTION_RESIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN,
> _NET_WM_ACTION_MINIMIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_SHADE,
> _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_HORZ, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT,
> _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE,
> _NET_WM_ACTION_ABOVE, _NET_WM_ACTION_BELOW
> _NET_WM_VISIBLE_ICON_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "oVirt Engine Web
> Administration - Mozilla Firefox (on f18engine.mydomain)"
> _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "oVirt Engine Web Administration -
> Mozilla Firefox (on f18engine.mydomain)"
> _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) =
> WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS):
> Client accepts input or input focus: True
> Initial state is Normal State.
> bitmap id # to use for icon: 0x2600082
> bitmap id # of mask for icon: 0x2600083
> window id # of group leader: 0x2600001
> WM_WINDOW_ROLE(STRING) = "browser"
> XdndAware(ATOM) = BITMAP
> _MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO(_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO) = 0x6c, 0x0, 0x5,
> 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x10, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0
> _NET_WM_ICON(CARDINAL) = Icon (22 x 22):
> 
> [icons]
> 
> _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER(CARDINAL) = 39846017
> _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL
> _NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0x2600080
> WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x2600001
> _NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 16689
> WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "en_US.utf8"
> WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "f18engine.mydomain"
> WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
> program specified minimum size: 1 by 98
> program specified maximum size: 32767 by 32767
> window gravity: NorthWest
> WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS,
> _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST
> WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Navigator", "Firefox"
> WM_ICON_NAME(STRING) = "oVirt Engine Web Administration - Mozilla Firefox"
> _NET_WM_ICON_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "oVirt Engine Web Administration -
> Mozilla Firefox"
> WM_NAME(STRING) = "oVirt Engine Web Administration - Mozilla Firefox"
> _NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "oVirt Engine Web Administration - Mozilla
> Firefox"
> 
> 
> Gianluca
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