[Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?

Itamar Heim iheim at redhat.com
Tue Sep 3 12:55:34 UTC 2013


On 09/03/2013 03:54 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
> hi
>
> ubuntu  should list in ther agent list. when you want to create vm's in
> the operating list drop down menu. please dont forget other OS's.
> regards

sorry, I'm still not sure i understand. we added ubuntu and sles to list 
of OSs in 3.3. can you please elaborate on what is missing?

thanks,
    Itamar

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>
>         hi again
>
>         ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware .
>
>
>     added in which list?
>
>
>      > about installation
>
>         i have to install ovirt packages by local repository and there is
>         problem in this status and in adding  host to ovirt manager you
>         need to
>         install packages that need to internet .
>
>
>     why do you need internet? you just need the host to be configured
>     with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as well?
>
>         regards,
>
>
>         On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>
>              On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>
>                  hi
>
>                  please add support from solaris , ubuntu and other OS's.
>
>
>              we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's - i can't
>         tell you
>              if they work or not.
>              you can now easily add on your own more OSs as well:
>         http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info
>
>              guest agent for ubuntu should be working.
>
>
>
>
>               > installation is  a little hard specially in an
>         evironment without
>               > internet.
>
>              can you please share more on the issues you faced?
>
>              thanks,
>                  Itamar
>
>
>                  regards,
>
>
>                  On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck
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>                       ----- Original Message -----
>                       | From: "Karli Sjöberg" <Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se
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>                       | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM
>                       | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next
>         in oVirt?
>                       |
>                       | Hi,
>                       |
>                       | I would like to see a more advanced type of
>         Power-Saving
>                  Cluster
>                       policy,
>                       | where an empty Host gets put into a sleep-mode,
>         so that
>                  it draws
>                       as little
>                       | power as possible and can be awoken by engine
>         when VM's
>                  starts to
>                       use more
>                       | resources.
>                       |
>                       | A typical scenario would be that all VM's are spread
>                  evenly over
>                       Hosts during
>                       | day-time, when customers are actively using
>         their VM's.
>                  But then
>                       during
>                       | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into maybe one
>         or two
>                  Hosts, and
>                       the other
>                       | Hosts can be put to sleep to save energy, and
>         then woken
>                  up in the
>                       morning
>                       | again.
>                       |
>                       | /Karli
>                       |
>
>                       Hi Karli,
>                       this should be achievable for you in 3.3 with some
>         minor
>                  work on
>                       your side;
>                       In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new scheduler, which
>         allows
>                  you to run
>                       your own
>                       code when doing VM placement and load balancing.
>
>                       You can write your own load balancing logic
>         replacing the
>                  built-in one,
>                       which will switch to power saving at a given time.
>         Once a
>                  host has no
>                       running VMs, your balance logic can switch it into
>         S3 state
>                  (sleep), and
>                       when needed or in a given time use wake-on-lan to
>         resume all
>                       suspended hosts.
>
>                       If you want we can guide you through it post 3.3
>         release.
>
>                       Doron
>
>                       | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400 skrev Itamar
>         Heim:
>                       |
>                       |
>                       | earlier in the year we did a survey for feature
>         requests /
>                       improvements
>                       | / etc.
>                       |
>                       | since a lot of things were added, and priorities
>         usually
>                  change, I'd
>                       | like to ask again for "what do you need the most
>         from
>                  oVirt / what are
>                       | your pain points" next?
>                       |
>                       | below[1] I've listed my understanding of what
>         already
>                  went in from
>                       | previous survey requests (to various degrees of
>         coverage).
>                       |
>                       | Thanks,
>                       |     Itamar
>                       |
>                       | [1] from the top 12
>                       | V Allow disk resize
>                       | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui
>         plugin
>                       | V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2]
>                       | V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration
>                       | X Allow cloning VMs without template
>                       | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through
>         engine[3]
>                       | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via
>         hosted engine[2]
>                       | V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH
>         keys,
>                  network) via
>                       |    guest agent in engine - via cloud-init
>                       | X Integrate v2v into engine
>                       | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for
>                  HA/increased
>                       |    bandwidth[4]
>                       | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM
>         export for
>                  backups in
>                       |    engine[5]
>                       | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based
>         launch
>                       |
>                       |
>                       | Other items mentioned in previous survey which
>         should be
>                  covered
>                       by now:
>                       | - Fix timeout when adding local host during
>         all-in-one
>                  configuration
>                       | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled
>                       | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat
>         Enterprise Linux)
>                       | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same
>                  template at the same
>                       |    time
>                       | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS
>                       | - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines->Network
>         Interfaces
>                       | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron)
>                       | - noVNC support
>                       | - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy
>                       | - Add other guest OSes to list
>                       | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6]
>                       | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing
>                       | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch)
>                       | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure
>         this will
>                  happen, but
>                       |    mime based launch allows using firefox now)
>                       | - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be
>         covered via
>                  mime based
>                       |    launch)
>                       |
>                       |
>                       | [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not
>                  released yet.
>                       | [3] host update is supported, but not for
>         general yum update.
>                       | [4] a lot of improvements were done in this
>         space, but
>                  i'm not sure if
>                       |      they cover this exact use case
>                       | [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and
>                  orchestration of
>                       |      backups should probably happen via 3rd part
>         backup
>                  vendors?
>                       | [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is
>                  covered for the
>                       |      basic functionality of the guest agent.
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