[Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?

Itamar Heim iheim at redhat.com
Tue Sep 3 13:50:44 UTC 2013


On 09/03/2013 03:58 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
> hi
>
> in ovirt 3.2 there isnt ubuntu in the list. 3.3 is released?can i
> download it ?

go/no-go on 3.3 release is happening right now...

> regards
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>> wrote:
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>     On 09/03/2013 03:54 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>
>         hi
>
>         ubuntu  should list in ther agent list. when you want to create
>         vm's in
>         the operating list drop down menu. please dont forget other OS's.
>         regards
>
>
>     sorry, I'm still not sure i understand. we added ubuntu and sles to
>     list of OSs in 3.3. can you please elaborate on what is missing?
>
>     thanks,
>         Itamar
>
>
>
>         On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
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>              On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>
>                  hi again
>
>                  ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware .
>
>
>              added in which list?
>
>
>               > about installation
>
>                  i have to install ovirt packages by local repository
>         and there is
>                  problem in this status and in adding  host to ovirt
>         manager you
>                  need to
>                  install packages that need to internet .
>
>
>              why do you need internet? you just need the host to be
>         configured
>              with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as
>         well?
>
>                  regards,
>
>
>                  On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim
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>                       On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>
>                           hi
>
>                           please add support from solaris , ubuntu and
>         other OS's.
>
>
>                       we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's -
>         i can't
>                  tell you
>                       if they work or not.
>                       you can now easily add on your own more OSs as well:
>         http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info
>
>                       guest agent for ubuntu should be working.
>
>
>
>
>                        > installation is  a little hard specially in an
>                  evironment without
>                        > internet.
>
>                       can you please share more on the issues you faced?
>
>                       thanks,
>                           Itamar
>
>
>                           regards,
>
>
>                           On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck
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>                                | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 10:42:52 AM
>                                | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you
>         want next
>                  in oVirt?
>                                |
>                                | Hi,
>                                |
>                                | I would like to see a more advanced type of
>                  Power-Saving
>                           Cluster
>                                policy,
>                                | where an empty Host gets put into a
>         sleep-mode,
>                  so that
>                           it draws
>                                as little
>                                | power as possible and can be awoken by
>         engine
>                  when VM's
>                           starts to
>                                use more
>                                | resources.
>                                |
>                                | A typical scenario would be that all
>         VM's are spread
>                           evenly over
>                                Hosts during
>                                | day-time, when customers are actively using
>                  their VM's.
>                           But then
>                                during
>                                | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into
>         maybe one
>                  or two
>                           Hosts, and
>                                the other
>                                | Hosts can be put to sleep to save
>         energy, and
>                  then woken
>                           up in the
>                                morning
>                                | again.
>                                |
>                                | /Karli
>                                |
>
>                                Hi Karli,
>                                this should be achievable for you in 3.3
>         with some
>                  minor
>                           work on
>                                your side;
>                                In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new
>         scheduler, which
>                  allows
>                           you to run
>                                your own
>                                code when doing VM placement and load
>         balancing.
>
>                                You can write your own load balancing logic
>                  replacing the
>                           built-in one,
>                                which will switch to power saving at a
>         given time.
>                  Once a
>                           host has no
>                                running VMs, your balance logic can
>         switch it into
>                  S3 state
>                           (sleep), and
>                                when needed or in a given time use
>         wake-on-lan to
>                  resume all
>                                suspended hosts.
>
>                                If you want we can guide you through it
>         post 3.3
>                  release.
>
>                                Doron
>
>                                | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400
>         skrev Itamar
>                  Heim:
>                                |
>                                |
>                                | earlier in the year we did a survey for
>         feature
>                  requests /
>                                improvements
>                                | / etc.
>                                |
>                                | since a lot of things were added, and
>         priorities
>                  usually
>                           change, I'd
>                                | like to ask again for "what do you need
>         the most
>                  from
>                           oVirt / what are
>                                | your pain points" next?
>                                |
>                                | below[1] I've listed my understanding
>         of what
>                  already
>                           went in from
>                                | previous survey requests (to various
>         degrees of
>                  coverage).
>                                |
>                                | Thanks,
>                                |     Itamar
>                                |
>                                | [1] from the top 12
>                                | V Allow disk resize
>                                | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring -
>         via a ui
>                  plugin
>                                | V Highly Available engine - via hosted
>         engine[2]
>                                | V Open vSwitch integration - via
>         neutron integration
>                                | X Allow cloning VMs without template
>                                | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through
>                  engine[3]
>                                | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via
>                  hosted engine[2]
>                                | V Enable guest configuration (root
>         password, SSH
>                  keys,
>                           network) via
>                                |    guest agent in engine - via cloud-init
>                                | X Integrate v2v into engine
>                                | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second
>         network for
>                           HA/increased
>                                |    bandwidth[4]
>                                | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM
>                  export for
>                           backups in
>                                |    engine[5]
>                                | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via
>         mime based
>                  launch
>                                |
>                                |
>                                | Other items mentioned in previous
>         survey which
>                  should be
>                           covered
>                                by now:
>                                | - Fix timeout when adding local host during
>                  all-in-one
>                           configuration
>                                | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is
>         disabled
>                                | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat
>                  Enterprise Linux)
>                                | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed
>         from the same
>                           template at the same
>                                |    time
>                                | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS
>                                | - Show IP addresses in Virtual
>         Machines->Network
>                  Interfaces
>                                | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called
>         Neutron)
>                                | - noVNC support
>                                | - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy
>                                | - Add other guest OSes to list
>                                | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6]
>                                | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing
>                                | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based
>         launch)
>                                | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows
>         (not sure
>                  this will
>                           happen, but
>                                |    mime based launch allows using
>         firefox now)
>                                | - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian
>         (should be
>                  covered via
>                           mime based
>                                |    launch)
>                                |
>                                |
>                                | [2] hosted engine is in active
>         development, but not
>                           released yet.
>                                | [3] host update is supported, but not for
>                  general yum update.
>                                | [4] a lot of improvements were done in this
>                  space, but
>                           i'm not sure if
>                                |      they cover this exact use case
>                                | [5] backup api is now being pushed to
>         master, and
>                           orchestration of
>                                |      backups should probably happen via
>         3rd part
>                  backup
>                           vendors?
>                                | [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet,
>         but ubuntu is
>                           covered for the
>                                |      basic functionality of the guest
>         agent.
>                                |
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