[Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?

Jakub Bittner j.bittner at nbu.cz
Tue Sep 3 14:48:18 UTC 2013


Dne 3.9.2013 15:50, Itamar Heim napsal(a):
> On 09/03/2013 03:58 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>> hi
>>
>> in ovirt 3.2 there isnt ubuntu in the list. 3.3 is released?can i
>> download it ?
>
> go/no-go on 3.3 release is happening right now...
>
>> regards
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 09/03/2013 03:54 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>>
>>         hi
>>
>>         ubuntu  should list in ther agent list. when you want to create
>>         vm's in
>>         the operating list drop down menu. please dont forget other 
>> OS's.
>>         regards
>>
>>
>>     sorry, I'm still not sure i understand. we added ubuntu and sles to
>>     list of OSs in 3.3. can you please elaborate on what is missing?
>>
>>     thanks,
>>         Itamar
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
>>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>> wrote:
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>>              On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>>
>>                  hi again
>>
>>                  ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware .
>>
>>
>>              added in which list?
>>
>>
>>               > about installation
>>
>>                  i have to install ovirt packages by local repository
>>         and there is
>>                  problem in this status and in adding  host to ovirt
>>         manager you
>>                  need to
>>                  install packages that need to internet .
>>
>>
>>              why do you need internet? you just need the host to be
>>         configured
>>              with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as
>>         well?
>>
>>                  regards,
>>
>>
>>                  On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim
>>         <iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>                  <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>
>>                  <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
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>>                       On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>                           hi
>>
>>                           please add support from solaris , ubuntu and
>>         other OS's.
>>
>>
>>                       we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's -
>>         i can't
>>                  tell you
>>                       if they work or not.
>>                       you can now easily add on your own more OSs as 
>> well:
>>         http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info
>>
>>                       guest agent for ubuntu should be working.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                        > installation is  a little hard specially in an
>>                  evironment without
>>                        > internet.
>>
>>                       can you please share more on the issues you faced?
>>
>>                       thanks,
>>                           Itamar
>>
>>
>>                           regards,
>>
>>
>>                           On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck
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>>                                ----- Original Message -----
>>                                | From: "Karli Sjöberg"
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>>                                | To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim at redhat.com
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>>         <mailto:users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>>>, "Jan-Olov
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>>                                | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 
>> 10:42:52 AM
>>                                | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you
>>         want next
>>                  in oVirt?
>>                                |
>>                                | Hi,
>>                                |
>>                                | I would like to see a more advanced 
>> type of
>>                  Power-Saving
>>                           Cluster
>>                                policy,
>>                                | where an empty Host gets put into a
>>         sleep-mode,
>>                  so that
>>                           it draws
>>                                as little
>>                                | power as possible and can be awoken by
>>         engine
>>                  when VM's
>>                           starts to
>>                                use more
>>                                | resources.
>>                                |
>>                                | A typical scenario would be that all
>>         VM's are spread
>>                           evenly over
>>                                Hosts during
>>                                | day-time, when customers are 
>> actively using
>>                  their VM's.
>>                           But then
>>                                during
>>                                | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into
>>         maybe one
>>                  or two
>>                           Hosts, and
>>                                the other
>>                                | Hosts can be put to sleep to save
>>         energy, and
>>                  then woken
>>                           up in the
>>                                morning
>>                                | again.
>>                                |
>>                                | /Karli
>>                                |
>>
>>                                Hi Karli,
>>                                this should be achievable for you in 3.3
>>         with some
>>                  minor
>>                           work on
>>                                your side;
>>                                In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new
>>         scheduler, which
>>                  allows
>>                           you to run
>>                                your own
>>                                code when doing VM placement and load
>>         balancing.
>>
>>                                You can write your own load balancing 
>> logic
>>                  replacing the
>>                           built-in one,
>>                                which will switch to power saving at a
>>         given time.
>>                  Once a
>>                           host has no
>>                                running VMs, your balance logic can
>>         switch it into
>>                  S3 state
>>                           (sleep), and
>>                                when needed or in a given time use
>>         wake-on-lan to
>>                  resume all
>>                                suspended hosts.
>>
>>                                If you want we can guide you through it
>>         post 3.3
>>                  release.
>>
>>                                Doron
>>
>>                                | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400
>>         skrev Itamar
>>                  Heim:
>>                                |
>>                                |
>>                                | earlier in the year we did a survey for
>>         feature
>>                  requests /
>>                                improvements
>>                                | / etc.
>>                                |
>>                                | since a lot of things were added, and
>>         priorities
>>                  usually
>>                           change, I'd
>>                                | like to ask again for "what do you need
>>         the most
>>                  from
>>                           oVirt / what are
>>                                | your pain points" next?
>>                                |
>>                                | below[1] I've listed my understanding
>>         of what
>>                  already
>>                           went in from
>>                                | previous survey requests (to various
>>         degrees of
>>                  coverage).
>>                                |
>>                                | Thanks,
>>                                |     Itamar
>>                                |
>>                                | [1] from the top 12
>>                                | V Allow disk resize
>>                                | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring -
>>         via a ui
>>                  plugin
>>                                | V Highly Available engine - via hosted
>>         engine[2]
>>                                | V Open vSwitch integration - via
>>         neutron integration
>>                                | X Allow cloning VMs without template
>>                                | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates 
>> through
>>                  engine[3]
>>                                | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM 
>> - via
>>                  hosted engine[2]
>>                                | V Enable guest configuration (root
>>         password, SSH
>>                  keys,
>>                           network) via
>>                                |    guest agent in engine - via 
>> cloud-init
>>                                | X Integrate v2v into engine
>>                                | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second
>>         network for
>>                           HA/increased
>>                                |    bandwidth[4]
>>                                | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots 
>> and VM
>>                  export for
>>                           backups in
>>                                |    engine[5]
>>                                | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via
>>         mime based
>>                  launch
>>                                |
>>                                |
>>                                | Other items mentioned in previous
>>         survey which
>>                  should be
>>                           covered
>>                                by now:
>>                                | - Fix timeout when adding local host 
>> during
>>                  all-in-one
>>                           configuration
>>                                | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is
>>         disabled
>>                                | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, 
>> Red Hat
>>                  Enterprise Linux)
>>                                | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed
>>         from the same
>>                           template at the same
>>                                |    time
>>                                | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS
>>                                | - Show IP addresses in Virtual
>>         Machines->Network
>>                  Interfaces
>>                                | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called
>>         Neutron)
>>                                | - noVNC support
>>                                | - Support spice.html5 and websocket 
>> proxy
>>                                | - Add other guest OSes to list
>>                                | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6]
>>                                | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing
>>                                | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based
>>         launch)
>>                                | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows
>>         (not sure
>>                  this will
>>                           happen, but
>>                                |    mime based launch allows using
>>         firefox now)
>>                                | - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian
>>         (should be
>>                  covered via
>>                           mime based
>>                                |    launch)
>>                                |
>>                                |
>>                                | [2] hosted engine is in active
>>         development, but not
>>                           released yet.
>>                                | [3] host update is supported, but 
>> not for
>>                  general yum update.
>>                                | [4] a lot of improvements were done 
>> in this
>>                  space, but
>>                           i'm not sure if
>>                                |      they cover this exact use case
>>                                | [5] backup api is now being pushed to
>>         master, and
>>                           orchestration of
>>                                |      backups should probably happen via
>>         3rd part
>>                  backup
>>                           vendors?
>>                                | [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet,
>>         but ubuntu is
>>                           covered for the
>>                                |      basic functionality of the guest
>>         agent.
>>                                |
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Hello,

I dont have Ubuntu in Operating system picker in new VM creating dialog. 
Iam using oVirt 3.3RC. Someone wrote that there is working ovirt-agent 
for Ubuntu, but I can not find any info about it. Is there a deb package 
somewhere or howto about deploying it?

I would suggest another feature (maybe it is covered by external 
providers). Network NAT for VMs (with buildin DHCP).

Thank you.



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