[Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?

Itamar Heim iheim at redhat.com
Tue Sep 3 19:25:03 UTC 2013


On 09/03/2013 05:48 PM, Jakub Bittner wrote:
> Dne 3.9.2013 15:50, Itamar Heim napsal(a):
>> On 09/03/2013 03:58 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>>> hi
>>>
>>> in ovirt 3.2 there isnt ubuntu in the list. 3.3 is released?can i
>>> download it ?
>>
>> go/no-go on 3.3 release is happening right now...
>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     On 09/03/2013 03:54 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>>>
>>>         hi
>>>
>>>         ubuntu  should list in ther agent list. when you want to create
>>>         vm's in
>>>         the operating list drop down menu. please dont forget other
>>> OS's.
>>>         regards
>>>
>>>
>>>     sorry, I'm still not sure i understand. we added ubuntu and sles to
>>>     list of OSs in 3.3. can you please elaborate on what is missing?
>>>
>>>     thanks,
>>>         Itamar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
>>>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>              On 09/03/2013 12:02 PM, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>>>
>>>                  hi again
>>>
>>>                  ubuntu agent should be add in the list like vmware .
>>>
>>>
>>>              added in which list?
>>>
>>>
>>>               > about installation
>>>
>>>                  i have to install ovirt packages by local repository
>>>         and there is
>>>                  problem in this status and in adding  host to ovirt
>>>         manager you
>>>                  need to
>>>                  install packages that need to internet .
>>>
>>>
>>>              why do you need internet? you just need the host to be
>>>         configured
>>>              with a repo containing the packages, which can be local as
>>>         well?
>>>
>>>                  regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>                  On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Itamar Heim
>>>         <iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>>                  <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>
>>>                  <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
>>>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                       On 09/03/2013 10:53 AM, alireza sadeh seighalan
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                           hi
>>>
>>>                           please add support from solaris , ubuntu and
>>>         other OS's.
>>>
>>>
>>>                       we've added in 3.3 ubuntu and suse as guest os's -
>>>         i can't
>>>                  tell you
>>>                       if they work or not.
>>>                       you can now easily add on your own more OSs as
>>> well:
>>>         http://www.ovirt.org/OS_info
>>>
>>>                       guest agent for ubuntu should be working.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                        > installation is  a little hard specially in an
>>>                  evironment without
>>>                        > internet.
>>>
>>>                       can you please share more on the issues you faced?
>>>
>>>                       thanks,
>>>                           Itamar
>>>
>>>
>>>                           regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>                           On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Doron Fediuck
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>>>                  <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com
>>>         <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com>>>>__> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                ----- Original Message -----
>>>                                | From: "Karli Sjöberg"
>>>         <Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se>
>>>                  <mailto:Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se
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>>>                                | To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim at redhat.com
>>>         <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>
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>>>                                | Cc: users at ovirt.org
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>>>                  <mailto:users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>
>>>         <mailto:users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>>>, "Jan-Olov
>>>                           Persson"
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>>>
>>>                                | Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013
>>> 10:42:52 AM
>>>                                | Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you
>>>         want next
>>>                  in oVirt?
>>>                                |
>>>                                | Hi,
>>>                                |
>>>                                | I would like to see a more advanced
>>> type of
>>>                  Power-Saving
>>>                           Cluster
>>>                                policy,
>>>                                | where an empty Host gets put into a
>>>         sleep-mode,
>>>                  so that
>>>                           it draws
>>>                                as little
>>>                                | power as possible and can be awoken by
>>>         engine
>>>                  when VM's
>>>                           starts to
>>>                                use more
>>>                                | resources.
>>>                                |
>>>                                | A typical scenario would be that all
>>>         VM's are spread
>>>                           evenly over
>>>                                Hosts during
>>>                                | day-time, when customers are
>>> actively using
>>>                  their VM's.
>>>                           But then
>>>                                during
>>>                                | off-hours, VM's gets clumped up into
>>>         maybe one
>>>                  or two
>>>                           Hosts, and
>>>                                the other
>>>                                | Hosts can be put to sleep to save
>>>         energy, and
>>>                  then woken
>>>                           up in the
>>>                                morning
>>>                                | again.
>>>                                |
>>>                                | /Karli
>>>                                |
>>>
>>>                                Hi Karli,
>>>                                this should be achievable for you in 3.3
>>>         with some
>>>                  minor
>>>                           work on
>>>                                your side;
>>>                                In oVirt 3.3 we introduce the new
>>>         scheduler, which
>>>                  allows
>>>                           you to run
>>>                                your own
>>>                                code when doing VM placement and load
>>>         balancing.
>>>
>>>                                You can write your own load balancing
>>> logic
>>>                  replacing the
>>>                           built-in one,
>>>                                which will switch to power saving at a
>>>         given time.
>>>                  Once a
>>>                           host has no
>>>                                running VMs, your balance logic can
>>>         switch it into
>>>                  S3 state
>>>                           (sleep), and
>>>                                when needed or in a given time use
>>>         wake-on-lan to
>>>                  resume all
>>>                                suspended hosts.
>>>
>>>                                If you want we can guide you through it
>>>         post 3.3
>>>                  release.
>>>
>>>                                Doron
>>>
>>>                                | tis 2013-08-20 klockan 17:19 -0400
>>>         skrev Itamar
>>>                  Heim:
>>>                                |
>>>                                |
>>>                                | earlier in the year we did a survey for
>>>         feature
>>>                  requests /
>>>                                improvements
>>>                                | / etc.
>>>                                |
>>>                                | since a lot of things were added, and
>>>         priorities
>>>                  usually
>>>                           change, I'd
>>>                                | like to ask again for "what do you need
>>>         the most
>>>                  from
>>>                           oVirt / what are
>>>                                | your pain points" next?
>>>                                |
>>>                                | below[1] I've listed my understanding
>>>         of what
>>>                  already
>>>                           went in from
>>>                                | previous survey requests (to various
>>>         degrees of
>>>                  coverage).
>>>                                |
>>>                                | Thanks,
>>>                                |     Itamar
>>>                                |
>>>                                | [1] from the top 12
>>>                                | V Allow disk resize
>>>                                | V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring -
>>>         via a ui
>>>                  plugin
>>>                                | V Highly Available engine - via hosted
>>>         engine[2]
>>>                                | V Open vSwitch integration - via
>>>         neutron integration
>>>                                | X Allow cloning VMs without template
>>>                                | ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates
>>> through
>>>                  engine[3]
>>>                                | V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM
>>> - via
>>>                  hosted engine[2]
>>>                                | V Enable guest configuration (root
>>>         password, SSH
>>>                  keys,
>>>                           network) via
>>>                                |    guest agent in engine - via
>>> cloud-init
>>>                                | X Integrate v2v into engine
>>>                                | ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second
>>>         network for
>>>                           HA/increased
>>>                                |    bandwidth[4]
>>>                                | X Integrate scheduling of snapshots
>>> and VM
>>>                  export for
>>>                           backups in
>>>                                |    engine[5]
>>>                                | V Spice – support Google Chrome - via
>>>         mime based
>>>                  launch
>>>                                |
>>>                                |
>>>                                | Other items mentioned in previous
>>>         survey which
>>>                  should be
>>>                           covered
>>>                                by now:
>>>                                | - Fix timeout when adding local host
>>> during
>>>                  all-in-one
>>>                           configuration
>>>                                | - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is
>>>         disabled
>>>                                | - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS,
>>> Red Hat
>>>                  Enterprise Linux)
>>>                                | - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed
>>>         from the same
>>>                           template at the same
>>>                                |    time
>>>                                | - ISO domains on local/GlusterS
>>>                                | - Show IP addresses in Virtual
>>>         Machines->Network
>>>                  Interfaces
>>>                                | - OpenStack Quantum support (now called
>>>         Neutron)
>>>                                | - noVNC support
>>>                                | - Support spice.html5 and websocket
>>> proxy
>>>                                | - Add other guest OSes to list
>>>                                | - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6]
>>>                                | - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing
>>>                                | - Spice - Mac client (via mime based
>>>         launch)
>>>                                | - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows
>>>         (not sure
>>>                  this will
>>>                           happen, but
>>>                                |    mime based launch allows using
>>>         firefox now)
>>>                                | - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian
>>>         (should be
>>>                  covered via
>>>                           mime based
>>>                                |    launch)
>>>                                |
>>>                                |
>>>                                | [2] hosted engine is in active
>>>         development, but not
>>>                           released yet.
>>>                                | [3] host update is supported, but
>>> not for
>>>                  general yum update.
>>>                                | [4] a lot of improvements were done
>>> in this
>>>                  space, but
>>>                           i'm not sure if
>>>                                |      they cover this exact use case
>>>                                | [5] backup api is now being pushed to
>>>         master, and
>>>                           orchestration of
>>>                                |      backups should probably happen via
>>>         3rd part
>>>                  backup
>>>                           vendors?
>>>                                | [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet,
>>>         but ubuntu is
>>>                           covered for the
>>>                                |      basic functionality of the guest
>>>         agent.
>>>                                |
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> Hello,
>
> I dont have Ubuntu in Operating system picker in new VM creating dialog.
> Iam using oVirt 3.3RC.

Roy - didn't this one make 3.3? i suggest backporting it to 3.3.1 if 
didn't and possible:
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/16680/

 > Someone wrote that there is working ovirt-agent
> for Ubuntu, but I can not find any info about it. Is there a deb package
> somewhere or howto about deploying it?

not sure if anyone packed the .deb, but the guest agent is supposed to 
be there.
Vinzenz?

>
> I would suggest another feature (maybe it is covered by external
> providers). Network NAT for VMs (with buildin DHCP).
>
> Thank you.
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