[ovirt-users] 1. Re: storage offload capability (Paul Jansen)

Nikolai Sednev nsednev at redhat.com
Mon Dec 15 14:26:21 UTC 2014


Very needed functionality IMHO, even currently partially supported for cloning guest-vms using KVM and NetApp: 
http://captainkvm.com/2011/11/offload-cloning-from-kvm-to-the-back-end-storage/ 



Thanks in advance. 

Best regards, 
Nikolai 
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Today's Topics: 

1. Re: storage offload capability (Paul Jansen) 
2. Re: [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z (Gianluca Cecchi) 
3. Re: How to update zanata's source text ? (Alexander Wels) 
4. Re: [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z (Sandro Bonazzola) 
5. Re: [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z (Gianluca Cecchi) 
6. Re: [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z (Sandro Bonazzola) 
7. Re: [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z (Gianluca Cecchi) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:37:24 +0000 (UTC) 
From: Paul Jansen <vlaero at yahoo.com.au> 
To: Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com>, users <users at ovirt.org> 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] storage offload capability 
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Thanks Itamar.I heard the other day that NFS v4.2 is supposed to contain server side copy, so it's possible that we might see this kind of support in one of more storage domain available to ovirt at some stage perhaps next year (in Fedora at least).Is this something that Gluster will also likely provide in a subsequent release once we have proper gfapi support? 
I'd be interested to hear if others on the list are clamouring for server side offload support in some form. 

From: Itamar Heim 
To: Paul Jansen ; users 
Sent: Saturday, 13 December 2014, 2:16 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] storage offload capability 

On 11/13/2014 06:09 AM, Paul Jansen wrote: 


> I have an ovirt 3.5 cluster set up with three el7 hosts.? Storage is 
> provided by two Fedora 20 machines and the connection is via multipath 
> iscsi. 
> The performance is quite good.? The Fedora 20 iscsi targets are using 
> the 'target' (ie: lio) framework, which support the various t.10 scsi 
> offloads.? Vmware supports a subset of these called VAAI and Microsoft 
> has a subset called ODX. 
> Cloning is one if the t.10 extensions that the lio target framework 
> supports. 
> I just tried cloning a vm and noticed that during the process there is a 
> lof of traffic over the iscsi interfaces on the Storage Pool Manager 
> host and the iscsi target machine. 
> With proper support for t.10 cloning I shoudn't see any traffic on the 
> isci links (or very minimal traffic) 
> Is there some way to enable the storage offload functionality in Ovirt? 
> If not, is this on the VDSM roadmap?? If support were worked in this 
> should be able to be applied to FCP connections as well.? The lio target 
> supports these offloads when acting as a Fiber Channel target also. 
> 
> I've asked this sometime back but there hasn't been much in the way of 
> discussion on this users list or the devel list about this feature. 
> 

yes, on the roadmap, tbd yet on when. netapp did a plugin enabling this 
for their storage array (VSC plugin) 
I hope the ceph integration will provide this, though that doesn't solve 
it for other type of storage domains yet. 




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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:30:05 +0100 
From: Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com> 
To: Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com> 
Cc: "Users at ovirt.org" <Users at ovirt.org>, "devel at ovirt.org" 
<devel at ovirt.org> 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z 
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com> 
wrote: 
> 
> Hi, 
> We have proposed Fedora 21 support as oVirt 3.6.0 new feature. 
> oVirt 3.5.z is now in maintenance phase so no new features should be added. 
> Supporting Fedora 21 is not just re-building everything on Fedora 21, it 
> requires changes in several packages. 
> My question is, is there community interest in having Fedora 21 support 
> for oVirt 3.5.z while still having Fedora 20 as actively supported 
> distribution? 
> 
> 
Back in May (see http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-May/024004.html 
and following answers) we talked about Fedora Server and that Fedora 21 
Server would have been a preview of that... 

Now that it is out officially, it would be nice to see if oVirt 
Hypervisor/Engine could become sort of Server Roles, as stated at 
https://getfedora.org/en/server/ 

" 
Server Roles and Rolekit 
There's no need to set up your server from scratch when you use server 
roles. Server roles plug into your Fedora Server system, providing a 
well-integrated service on top of the Fedora Server platform. Deploy and 
manage these prepared roles simply using the Rolekit tool. 
" 

Gianluca 
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Message: 3 
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:45:41 -0500 
From: Alexander Wels <awels at redhat.com> 
To: users at ovirt.org 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to update zanata's source text ? 
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On Sunday, December 14, 2014 03:03:56 PM plysan wrote: 
> Hi, 
> 
> When I'm trying to compile ovirt-engine-3.5 branch with pulled zanata 
> source files, I get webadmin compilation errors. And the error message lead 
> me to the outdated zanata translation 
> file: org.ovirt.engine.ui.webadmin.ApplicationMessages 
> The file has a source text called "{0} (VLAN {1})", but recent commit 
> b068ec755198c27e65f936809104ba5068cd8fd2 
> has changed the text to "(VLAN {0})" 
> 
> So is there a way to update the zanata's source text (text on the left) ? 
> It seems that I don't get any options to update it, I can only update the 
> target text (text on the right). 
> 
> thanks. 

The zanata source text is generated from default values from the ovirt source 
code. Einav should know more about exactly how that is done. You should always 
match the translation to the source and not the other way around. So I am not 
sure why you are trying to change the source. 


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Message: 4 
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:48:16 +0100 
From: Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com> 
To: Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com> 
Cc: "Users at ovirt.org" <Users at ovirt.org>, "devel at ovirt.org" 
<devel at ovirt.org> 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z 
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Il 15/12/2014 13:30, Gianluca Cecchi ha scritto: 
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com <mailto:sbonazzo at redhat.com>> wrote: 
> 
> Hi, 
> We have proposed Fedora 21 support as oVirt 3.6.0 new feature. 
> oVirt 3.5.z is now in maintenance phase so no new features should be added. 
> Supporting Fedora 21 is not just re-building everything on Fedora 21, it requires changes in several packages. 
> My question is, is there community interest in having Fedora 21 support for oVirt 3.5.z while still having Fedora 20 as actively supported 
> distribution? 
> 
> 
> Back in May (see http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-May/024004.html and following answers) we talked about Fedora Server and that Fedora 21 
> Server would have been a preview of that... 
> 
> Now that it is out officially, it would be nice to see if oVirt Hypervisor/Engine could become sort of Server Roles, as stated at 
> https://getfedora.org/en/server/ 
> 
> " 
> Server Roles and Rolekit 
> There's no need to set up your server from scratch when you use server roles. Server roles plug into your Fedora Server system, providing a 
> well-integrated service on top of the Fedora Server platform. Deploy and manage these prepared roles simply using the Rolekit tool. 
> " 
> 

I suggest to open a RFE in bugzilla for it, but it won't be in 3.5.z. I'm not even sure if we can make it for 3.6. 
BTW I think it's an interesting RFE. 

> Gianluca 
> 


-- 
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:10:18 +0100 
From: Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com> 
To: Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com> 
Cc: "Users at ovirt.org" <Users at ovirt.org>, "devel at ovirt.org" 
<devel at ovirt.org> 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z 
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com> 
wrote: 
> 
> 
> I suggest to open a RFE in bugzilla for it, but it won't be in 3.5.z. I'm 
> not even sure if we can make it for 3.6. 
> BTW I think it's an interesting RFE. 
> 
> -- 
> Sandro Bonazzola 
> Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. 
> See how it works at redhat.com 
> 

Bugzilla created against ovirt-engine-installer and version 4.0: 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174236 

Do you think it is better to create another one specifically for oVirt 
Hypervisor? And in that case against what component? 

Gianluca 
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:12:02 +0100 
From: Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com> 
To: Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com> 
Cc: Fabian Deutsch <fdeutsch at redhat.com>, "Users at ovirt.org" 
<Users at ovirt.org>, "devel at ovirt.org" <devel at ovirt.org> 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z 
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Il 15/12/2014 14:10, Gianluca Cecchi ha scritto: 
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com <mailto:sbonazzo at redhat.com>> wrote: 
> 
> 
> I suggest to open a RFE in bugzilla for it, but it won't be in 3.5.z. I'm not even sure if we can make it for 3.6. 
> BTW I think it's an interesting RFE. 
> 
> -- 
> Sandro Bonazzola 
> Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. 
> See how it works at redhat.com <http://redhat.com> 
> 
> 
> Bugzilla created against ovirt-engine-installer and version 4.0: 
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174236 
> 
> Do you think it is better to create another one specifically for oVirt Hypervisor? And in that case against what component? 

Fabian? 

> 
> Gianluca 


-- 
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:13:29 +0100 
From: Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com> 
To: Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com> 
Cc: Fabian Deutsch <fdeutsch at redhat.com>, "Users at ovirt.org" 
<Users at ovirt.org>, "devel at ovirt.org" <devel at ovirt.org> 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] Fedora 21 support on oVirt 3.5.z 
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com> 
wrote: 
> 
> Il 15/12/2014 14:10, Gianluca Cecchi ha scritto: 
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo at redhat.com 
> <mailto:sbonazzo at redhat.com>> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > I suggest to open a RFE in bugzilla for it, but it won't be in 
> 3.5.z. I'm not even sure if we can make it for 3.6. 
> > BTW I think it's an interesting RFE. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Sandro Bonazzola 
> > Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community 
> collaboration. 
> > See how it works at redhat.com <http://redhat.com> 
> > 
> > 
> > Bugzilla created against ovirt-engine-installer and version 4.0: 
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174236 
> > 
> > Do you think it is better to create another one specifically for oVirt 
> Hypervisor? And in that case against what component? 
> 
> Fabian? 
> 
> > 
> > Gianluca 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sandro Bonazzola 
> Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. 
> See how it works at redhat.com 
> 

BTW: I put [RFE] at beginning of subject. I hope it is sufficient to mark 
it as an enhancement bugzilla entry... 

Gianluca 
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