[Users] virtualized engine / port to self-hosted engine

Itamar Heim iheim at redhat.com
Fri Jan 10 07:46:05 UTC 2014


On 01/10/2014 09:45 AM, Andrew Lau wrote:
> Awesome!
>
> Is it worth while trying it now, or should I wait for 3.4 beta?

well, we'd love input as early as possible - maybe with the 3.4 alpha 
which should be out any day now.

>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com
> <mailto:iheim at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 01/08/2014 02:49 PM, Doron Fediuck wrote:
>
>
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
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>             From: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck at redhat.com
>             <mailto:dfediuck at redhat.com>>
>             To: "Andrew Lau" <andrew at andrewklau.com
>             <mailto:andrew at andrewklau.com>>
>             Cc: "users" <users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>
>             Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 2:48:20 PM
>             Subject: Re: [Users] virtualized engine / port to
>             self-hosted engine
>
>
>
>             ----- Original Message -----
>
>                 From: "Andrew Lau" <andrew at andrewklau.com
>                 <mailto:andrew at andrewklau.com>>
>                 To: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi at redhat.com
>                 <mailto:didi at redhat.com>>
>                 Cc: "users" <users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>>
>                 Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:15:21 AM
>                 Subject: Re: [Users] virtualized engine / port to
>                 self-hosted engine
>
>                 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Yedidyah Bar David <
>                 didi at redhat.com <mailto:didi at redhat.com> >
>                 wrote:
>
>
>
>                 ----- Original Message -----
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>                     From: "Blaster" < Blaster at 556nato.com
>                     <mailto:Blaster at 556nato.com> >
>                     To: "Yedidyah Bar David" < didi at redhat.com
>                     <mailto:didi at redhat.com> >
>                     Cc: users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>
>                     Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 5:20:00 PM
>                     Subject: Re: [Users] virtualized engine / port to
>                     self-hosted engine
>
>                     On 1/6/2014 7:12 AM, Yedidyah Bar David wrote:
>
>                         Did you have problems with engine-backup? Or had
>                         other reasons to not
>                         use it? Thanks!
>
>
>                     Can engine-backup be used to move an AIO
>                     configuration from one host to
>                     another?
>
>
>                 I didn't try that. In principle it can. Note that it
>                 will only
>                 backup/restore
>                 the engine - not local storage domains (ISO or data), VM
>                 images, etc.
>
>                 If you try that, please report back. Thanks!
>
>
>                     I currently need to move an AIO configuration from
>                     AMD hardware to Intel
>                     I7 hardware. The engine-backup WIKI discusses
>                     backups, but not
>                     restores. I am a bit concerned about using
>                     engine-backup to restore an
>                     AIO configuration to a different system as another
>                     WIKI page with
>                     step-by-step instructions to do what engine-backup
>                     does for you,
>                     mentions you have to do some extra steps if you are
>                     changing hostnames
>                     as the hostname of the ovirt-engine is embedded in
>                     the database.
>
>
>                 Changing the hostname is specifically not in the scope
>                 of engine-backup.
>
>                 Note that you do not need to have the hostname equal to
>                 the "fqdn" input
>                 during engine-setup - this last one just needs to be
>                 dns-resolvable and
>                 point to the machine intended.
>
>                 Also, there is another utility to do that, called
>                 ovirt-engine-rename -
>                 see this for details and implications:
>
>                 http://www.ovirt.org/Changing___Engine_Hostname
>                 <http://www.ovirt.org/Changing_Engine_Hostname>
>
>
>                     There really needs to be some work done in Ovirt on
>                     making it easier to
>                     import existing disk images and just generally
>                     moving things around
>                     without having to bounce off an NFS server.
>
>                     Should I do a BZ on that?
>
>
>                 Not sure what you mean exactly, but you are always
>                 welcome to open BZs on
>                 bugs/RFEs...
>
>                 Best regards,
>                 --
>                 Didi
>
>                 Sorry for going slightly off topic, but how is
>                 everyone's hosted engine
>                 deployment going? Are you restricted to NFS?
>
>             Andrew, in general I get positive feedbacks from RHEL users.
>             For Fedora
>             and other distros, this should be in a better situation in
>             the following
>             1-2 weeks when we'll have 3.4 beta available.
>             I'd love to get your feedback on it.
>
>         I missed your NFS question, sorry;
>         Yes. Currently we have NFS limitation and we will do our best to see
>         if SAN can be added. Note that time is not on our side for 3.4.
>
>
>     worth mentioning you can use hosted engine on an iscsi/FC cluster -
>     just the hosted engine VM needs to be on NFS
>
>
>
>                 I tried the migration procedure last month and it
>                 worked.. but had quite a
>                 lot of issues so I ended up reverting back. I didn't
>                 open any bugs in the
>                 assumption it was in super alpha stage.
>
>             Next time please open bugs... That's the best way to improve
>             the project,
>             regardless of the version state. If unsure, you can always
>             try irc / this
>             list
>             first to see if this is a known issue and if there are
>             workarounds.
>
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