[Users] Blank VM Install Console

David Li david_li at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jan 21 20:31:46 UTC 2014


Dafna,

I have restarted the host and now started to install the Vm from scratch. Following Itamar's suggestion this time, I chose VNC as console option. 
How can I use vnc viewer to attach to the VM? 

David


----- Original Message -----
> From: Dafna Ron <dron at redhat.com>
> To: Michal Skrivanek <mskrivan at redhat.com>
> Cc: David Li <david_li at sbcglobal.net>; "users at ovirt.org List" <users at ovirt.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console
> 
> David,
> 
> Let's try to debug the issue you have now.
> Can you please attach engine and vdsm logs?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dafna
> 
> 
> On 01/21/2014 05:32 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
>> 
>>  On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:26, David Li <david_li at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Before the VM install console problem, everything was normal, the cpu, 
> host, storage were done following the quick start guide.
>>  Well, whatever is the reason the symptoms you see suggests something is 
> either crashing (vdsm on the host) or is unreachable or misconfigured now.
>>  Depends what you did...:)
>>  Might be easier to start from scratch if unsure...
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: Michal Skrivanek <mskrivan at redhat.com>
>>>>  To: David Li <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>  Cc: Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com>; "users at ovirt.org 
> List" <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:24 AM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:20, David Li <david_li at sbcglobal.net> 
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  Itamar,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I tried what you suggested. Now when I restart the VM, it ends 
> up in
>>>>  unknown state. Moreover, all storage domains and the host are all 
> down. What do
>>>>  I need to do to recover from here?
>>>> 
>>>>  Thos is way beyond graphics issues. You have something wrong with 
> the basic
>>>>  setup. Storage connection?
>>>>  Can all hosts see the engine and vice versa? Any manual firewall 
> tweaks?
>>>> 
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>  michal
>>>>> 
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>  From: Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com>
>>>>>>  To: David Li <david_li at sbcglobal.net>; Michal 
> Skrivanek
>>>>  <michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>
>>>>>>  Cc: "users at ovirt.org List" 
> <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>>>  Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:53 PM
>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On 01/18/2014 12:49 AM, David Li wrote:
>>>>>>>  The node is up and running. I can ssh in no problem. VM 
> is started
>>>>  and
>>>>>>  running ok with 0% CPU 3% memory.
>>>>>>>  I don't know how to connect VNC to it, my VNC 
> console option is
>>>>  grayed
>>>>>>  out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  stop the VM. edit it, change console from spice to vnc, 
> start VM,
>>>>>>  connect to it again with vnc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  I also tried " browser plugin" option by 
> installing
>>>>  spice-xpi on
>>>>>>  my RHEL6 (which runs the firefox browser). Now when the 
> console is
>>>>  launched, a
>>>>>>  popup window shows up but then an error " Unable to 
> connect to the
>>>>  graphic
>>>>>>  server".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>  From: Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>  To: David Li <david_li at sbcglobal.net>; Michal 
> Skrivanek
>>>>>>  <michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>  Cc: "users at ovirt.org List" 
> <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>>>>>  Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:38 PM
>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  On 01/18/2014 12:30 AM, David Li wrote:
>>>>>>>>>       This time I tried to use "spice html5 
> browser
>>>>  client".
>>>>>>  I
>>>>>>>>  downloaded the cert from
>>>>  http://<my-engine>/ovirt-engine/ca.crt.
>>>>>>  This time
>>>>>>>>  the console window " spice javascript 
> client" showed
>>>>  up in
>>>>>>  the firefox
>>>>>>>>  (24.2.0) but it stays gray. Nothing can be seen.
>>>>>>>>>       So what else am I missing here?
>>>>>>>>  just to rule out things:
>>>>>>>>  - is the geust working correctly for you (ssh?)
>>>>>>>>  - does it happen to consume 100% cpu?
>>>>>>>>  - does vnc work for you correctly for this guest?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>       From: Michal Skrivanek
>>>>  <michal.skrivanek at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>       To: David Li 
> <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>       Cc: Meital Avital 
> <mavital at redhat.com>; Einav
>>>>  Cohen
>>>>>>>>  <ecohen at redhat.com>; Omer Frenkel
>>>>  <ofrenkel at redhat.com>;
>>>>>>>>  "users at ovirt.org List" 
> <users at ovirt.org>;
>>>>>>  "dron at redhat.com
>>>>>>>>  Ron" <dron at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>       Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:12 AM
>>>>>>>>>>       Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install 
> Console
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>       On Jan 17, 2014, at 09:59 , Dafna Ron
>>>>  <dron at redhat.com>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>         well, I have to admit that it 
> has been a while
>>>>  since I
>>>>>>  tried
>>>>>>>>  logging in to
>>>>>>>>>>       a vm console from a Windows OS :)
>>>>>>>>>>>         Adding some people to this which 
> I think can
>>>>  help more
>>>>>>  than me...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>         On 01/17/2014 12:58 AM, David Li 
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Well, it didn't even 
> have any traces
>>>>  to tell me
>>>>>>  if
>>>>>>>>  it's
>>>>>>>>>>       installed. I am supposed to see these 
> according to
>>>>  the
>>>>>>  instruction but
>>>>>>>>  none of
>>>>>>>>>>       them showed up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>             * IE will prompt you 
> with "This
>>>>  website
>>>>>>  wants to
>>>>>>>>  install the
>>>>>>>>>>       following add-on SpiceX.cab... proceed 
> by clicking
>>>>  the arrow
>>>>>>  on the
>>>>>>>>  install
>>>>>>>>>>       button and choose "Install for 
> All Users of
>>>>  this
>>>>>>  computer".
>>>>>>>>>>>>             * Depending on the 
> version of IE a UAC
>>>>  dialog
>>>>>>  may pop up
>>>>>>>>  asking you
>>>>>>>>>>       if you want to allow 
> "SpiceX.cab" If it
>>>>  does not
>>>>>>  Click on the
>>>>>>>>  install
>>>>>>>>>>       spice button again and it will.
>>>>>>>>>>>>             * In the UAC dialog 
> click on the yes
>>>>  button.
>>>>>>>>>>>>             * The install will now 
> proceed in the
>>>>>>  background.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I am using W7 64bit with 
> IE11. My engine
>>>>  is running
>>>>>>  on a
>>>>>>>>  RHEL6 machine.
>>>>>>>>>>       IE11 doesn't really work as of 
> now.
>>>>>>>>>>       Try some more reasonable browser, IE10 
> would be also
>>>>  fine.
>>>>>>>>>>       activex setup requires some manual 
> work as mentione
>>>>  at
>>>>>>>>>>       
> How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal wiki
>>>>>>>>>>       native invocation (that file to 
> download you got) is
>>>>  easier,
>>>>>>  just
>>>>>>>>  associate with
>>>>>>>>>>       recent remote viewer and it should 
> open
>>>>>>>>>>       it works on Windows, Linux and OSX 
> (needs
>>>>>>>>  https://github.com/brianwcook/launchvv
>>>>>>>>>>       in addition)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>       check out
>>>>  http://www.ovirt.org/Console_Client_Resources
>>>>>>>>>>       Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>       mcihal
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         From: Dafna Ron
>>>>  <dron at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         To: David Li
>>>>  <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cc: Madhav V Diwan
>>>>>>  <mdiwan at diwanconsulting.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>       "users at ovirt.org" 
> <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent: Thursday, January 
> 16, 2014 4:16
>>>>  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: [Users] 
> Blank VM Install
>>>>  Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         1. did you restart 
> you're firefox
>>>>  after
>>>>>>  install?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         2. what OS are you 
> using?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 01/16/2014 11:40 PM, 
> David Li
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          This isn't 
> working for me at
>>>>  this
>>>>>>  time. I have
>>>>>>>>  gone to the
>>>>>>>>>>       end of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         instructions and clicked 
> on
>>>>  "Install
>>>>>>  Spice"
>>>>>>>>  button in IE
>>>>>>>>>>       but nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Maybe someone with 
> more knowledge
>>>>  should
>>>>>>  come out
>>>>>>>>  and make
>>>>>>>>>>       clarifications.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          ----- Original 
> Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          From: Madhav V 
> Diwan
>>>>>>>>  <mdiwan at diwanconsulting.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          To: David Li
>>>>>>  <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Cc:
>>>>  "users at ovirt.org"
>>>>>>>>  <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Sent: Thursday, 
> January 16,
>>>>  2014 1:51
>>>>>>  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Subject: Re: 
> [Users] Blank VM
>>>>  Install
>>>>>>  Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          yuck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          i dont know why 
> they do not
>>>>  just have
>>>>>>  this
>>>>>>>>  already done in
>>>>>>>>>>       an rpm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          yes it probably 
> works , i
>>>>  have not
>>>>>>  tested it ,
>>>>>>>>  but
>>>>>>>>>>       virt-viewer is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          deprecated in 
> favor of the
>>>>  newer
>>>>>>  Remote-Viewer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          by the way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          worst comes to 
> worst  you can
>>>>  always
>>>>>>  connect to
>>>>>>>>  the ovirt
>>>>>>>>>>       vm node
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          server via 
> virt-manager gui
>>>>  in linux
>>>>>>  .. or using
>>>>>>>>  macports
>>>>>>>>>>       virt-manager
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          in OSX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          and as long as 
> you have a
>>>>  username and
>>>>>>  password
>>>>>>>>  set up in
>>>>>>>>>>       libvirt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          password db
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         
> /etc/libvirt/passwd.db
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          use saslpasswd2 
> -a libvirt
>>>>  $USER  on
>>>>>>  your ovirt
>>>>>>>>  vm host
>>>>>>>>>>       node
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          to add your 
> user account so
>>>>  you dont
>>>>>>  mess with
>>>>>>>>  ovirt's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          if you have  
> winaxe or some
>>>>  other
>>>>>>  Xwindows on
>>>>>>>>  your windows
>>>>>>>>>>       machine you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          could probably 
> just ssh with
>>>>  putty.exe
>>>>>>  to your
>>>>>>>>  ovirt node
>>>>>>>>>>       server and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          virt-manager 
> from there while
>>>>>>  displaying back to
>>>>>>>>  your
>>>>>>>>>>       windows desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          -----Original 
> Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          From: David Li
>>>>>>  <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Reply-to: David 
> Li
>>>>>>>>  <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          To: Madhav V 
> Diwan
>>>>>>>>  <mdiwan at diwanconsulting.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Cc: 
> users at ovirt.org
>>>>>>  <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Subject: Re: 
> [Users] Blank VM
>>>>  Install
>>>>>>  Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Date: Thu, 16 
> Jan 2014
>>>>  13:35:02 -0800
>>>>>>  (PST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Is this page 
> still applicable
>>>>  to ovirt
>>>>>>  3.3.2?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
> http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal#Add_a_deployment_method_Server_Side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          ----- Original 
> Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            From: 
> Madhav V Diwan
>>>>>>>>>>       <mdiwan at diwanconsulting.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            To: David 
> Li
>>>>>>>>  <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Cc:
>>>>  "users at ovirt.org"
>>>>>>>>>>       <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Sent: 
> Thursday, January
>>>>  16, 2014
>>>>>>  1:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Subject: 
> Re: [Users]
>>>>  Blank VM
>>>>>>  Install
>>>>>>>>  Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            install 
> them wherever
>>>>  your
>>>>>>  firefox browser
>>>>>>>>  is
>>>>>>>>>>       installed...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            whichever 
> machine you
>>>>  are using
>>>>>>  to browse
>>>>>>>>  to the
>>>>>>>>>>       portal from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
> unfortunately i believe
>>>>>>  ovirts' spice
>>>>>>>>  viewing
>>>>>>>>>>       only works on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            desktops 
> running
>>>>  firefox
>>>>>>  currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            also the 
> ovirt  vnc
>>>>>>  implementation assumes
>>>>>>>>  you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         remote-viewer  which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            can open 
> that .vv file
>>>>  that pops
>>>>>>  up..
>>>>>>>>  again
>>>>>>>>>>       remote-viewer would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         only be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            available 
> on linux
>>>>  desktops..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            there IS 
> a MAC OS port
>>>>  for
>>>>>>  remote-viewer ,
>>>>>>>>  but
>>>>>>>>>>       i've never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         gotten it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            work 
> without a lot of
>>>>  manual URL
>>>>>>  input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
> -----Original
>>>>  Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            From: 
> David Li
>>>>>>>>  <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Reply-to: 
> David Li
>>>>>>>>  <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            To: 
> Madhav V Diwan
>>>>>>>>>>       <mdiwan at diwanconsulting.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Cc: 
> users at ovirt.org
>>>>>>>>  <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Subject: 
> Re: [Users]
>>>>  Blank VM
>>>>>>  Install
>>>>>>>>  Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Date: 
> Thu, 16 Jan 2014
>>>>  11:39:20
>>>>>>  -0800
>>>>>>>>  (PST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Do I need 
> these to be
>>>>  installed
>>>>>>  on the
>>>>>>>>  engine or on
>>>>>>>>>>       the machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         where the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            webadmin 
> portal browser
>>>>  is being
>>>>>>  run?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            Are there 
> any ovirt
>>>>  links
>>>>>>  describing
>>>>>>>>  these?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            david
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            ----- 
> Original Message
>>>>  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> From: Madhav V
>>>>  Diwan
>>>>>>>>>>       <mdiwan at diwanconsulting.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             To: 
> David Li
>>>>>>>>  <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Cc:
>>>>>>  "users at ovirt.org"
>>>>>>>>>>       <users at ovirt.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> Sent: Thursday,
>>>>  January 16,
>>>>>>  2014
>>>>>>>>  10:35 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> Subject: Re:
>>>>  [Users] Black
>>>>>>  VM Install
>>>>>>>>  Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             you 
> ve probabaly
>>>>  not
>>>>>>  install teh
>>>>>>>>  spice xpi in
>>>>>>>>>>       your firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         on linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             you 
> opened the
>>>>  console , or
>>>>>>  maybe the
>>>>>>>>>>       remote-viewer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         application is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> missing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             use 
> yum to install
>>>>  these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> -----Original
>>>>  Message-----R
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> eply-to: David Li
>>>>>>>>>>       <david_li at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> Subject: [Users]
>>>>  Black VM
>>>>>>  Install
>>>>>>>>  Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan
>>>>  2014
>>>>>>  10:08:13 -0800
>>>>>>>>  (PST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             My 
> first time to
>>>>  install a
>>>>>>  VM on
>>>>>>>>  ovirt has
>>>>>>>>>>       encountered a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         problem. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             open 
> up a console
>>>>  to
>>>>>>  continue the
>>>>>>>>  install
>>>>>>>>>>       process. But all I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         got is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          blank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> window and a
>>>>  request to
>>>>>>  save a file
>>>>>>>>  which I
>>>>>>>>>>       did. The window
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         remained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          blank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> couldn't see
>>>>  any
>>>>>>  activities. I
>>>>>>>>  went to the
>>>>>>>>>>       node itself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         and tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          to see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> could use virsh
>>>>  tool to
>>>>>>  understand
>>>>>>>>  what's
>>>>>>>>>>       going on. But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          asked for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> username and
>>>>  password to
>>>>>>  perform any
>>>>>>>>  actions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Any 
> idea what I
>>>>  should do
>>>>>>  at this
>>>>>>>>  time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         
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>>>>>>  http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Dafna Ron
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>         --
>>>>>>>>>>>         Dafna Ron
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>  _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>       
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