[ovirt-users] [Gluster-devel] Can we debug some truths/myths/facts about hosted-engine and gluster?

[Andrew Lau]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri <
pkarampu at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> On 07/18/2014 05:43 PM, Andrew Lau wrote:
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>  ​ ​
>
>  On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Vijay Bellur <vbellur at redhat.com>
> wrote:
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>> [Adding gluster-devel]
>>
>>
>> On 07/18/2014 05:20 PM, Andrew Lau wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As most of you have got hints from previous messages, hosted engine
>>> won't work on gluster . A quote from BZ1097639
>>>
>>> "Using hosted engine with Gluster backed storage is currently something
>>> we really warn against.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think this bug should be closed or re-targeted at documentation,
>>> because there is nothing we can do here. Hosted engine assumes that all
>>> writes are atomic and (immediately) available for all hosts in the cluster.
>>> Gluster violates those assumptions.
>>> ​"
>>>
>>  I tried going through BZ1097639 but could not find much detail with
>> respect to gluster there.
>>
>> A few questions around the problem:
>>
>> 1. Can somebody please explain in detail the scenario that causes the
>> problem?
>>
>> 2. Is hosted engine performing synchronous writes to ensure that writes
>> are durable?
>>
>> Also, if there is any documentation that details the hosted engine
>> architecture that would help in enhancing our understanding of its
>> interactions with gluster.
>>
>>
>> ​
>>>
>>> Now my question, does this theory prevent a scenario of perhaps
>>> something like a gluster replicated volume being mounted as a glusterfs
>>> filesystem and then re-exported as the native kernel NFS share for the
>>> hosted-engine to consume? It could then be possible to chuck ctdb in
>>> there to provide a last resort failover solution. I have tried myself
>>> and suggested it to two people who are running a similar setup. Now
>>> using the native kernel NFS server for hosted-engine and they haven't
>>> reported as many issues. Curious, could anyone validate my theory on
>>> this?
>>>
>>>
>>  If we obtain more details on the use case and obtain gluster logs from
>> the failed scenarios, we should be able to understand the problem better.
>> That could be the first step in validating your theory or evolving further
>> recommendations :).
>>
>>
>  ​I'm not sure how useful this is, but ​Jiri Moskovcak tracked this down
> in an off list message.
>
>  ​Message Quote:​
>
>  ​==​
>
>   ​We were able to track it down to this (thanks Andrew for providing the
> testing setup):
>
> -b686-4363-bb7e-dba99e5789b6/ha_agent service_type=hosted-engine'
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/broker/listener.py",
> line 165, in handle
>     response = "success " + self._dispatch(data)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/broker/listener.py",
> line 261, in _dispatch
>     .get_all_stats_for_service_type(**options)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/broker/storage_broker.py",
> line 41, in get_all_stats_for_service_type
>     d = self.get_raw_stats_for_service_type(storage_dir, service_type)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/broker/storage_broker.py",
> line 74, in get_raw_stats_for_service_type
>     f = os.open(path, direct_flag | os.O_RDONLY)
> OSError: [Errno 116] Stale file handle: '/rhev/data-center/mnt/localho
> st:_mnt_hosted-engine/c898fd2a-b686-4363-bb7e-dba99e5789b6/ha_agent/hosted
> -engine.metadata'
>
> Andrew/Jiri,
>         Would it be possible to post gluster logs of both the mount and
> bricks on the bz? I can take a look at it once. If I gather nothing then
> probably I will ask for your help in re-creating the issue.
>
> Pranith
>

​Unfortunately, I don't have the logs for that setup any more.. ​I'll try
replicate when I get a chance. If I understand the comment from the BZ, I
don't think it's a gluster bug per-say, more just how gluster does its
replication.



>
>
> It's definitely connected to the storage which leads us to the gluster,
> I'm not very familiar with the gluster so I need to check this with our
> gluster gurus.​
>
>  ​==​
>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Vijay
>>
>
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